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PostRe: Homeland: Season 3 - US pace, Finale out now
by satriales » Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:28 pm

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Mr Yoshi wrote:Anyone notice the incredible similarities to 24 season 3?


Apart from the show generally being very similar to 24, I hadn't noticed anything specific to Season 3. What parallels caught your attention?

I got the same 24 S3 vibe when a few episodes in it turned out that Carrie and Saul had been working together and her hospital stay was all part of the plan.

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PostRe: Homeland: Season 3 - US pace, Finale out now
by Victor Mildew » Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:13 am

Yeah that was a real, "dammit Chase! What are you doing here?!" Moment

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PostRe: Homeland: Season 3 - US pace, Finale out now
by Mr Yoshi » Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:30 am

satriales wrote:
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Mr Yoshi wrote:Anyone notice the incredible similarities to 24 season 3?


Apart from the show generally being very similar to 24, I hadn't noticed anything specific to Season 3. What parallels caught your attention?

I got the same 24 S3 vibe when a few episodes in it turned out that Carrie and Saul had been working together and her hospital stay was all part of the plan.


Exactly, this. It was the same sought of backflipping nonsensical reveal that 24 used in it's 3rd season. Also this:

- 24's first three seasons were a self contained unit. There was the 'Nina' arc and in season 4 a lot of new characters were introduced and the show changed's it's tone. I expect the same thing to happen in 4 after what will have been it's 'Brody' arc. Also note, both were agents who were turned against their country and had a romantic connection with the lead.
- In 24 season 3 our lead male has a heroin addiction. In Homeland season 3, our lead male develops a heroin addiction.
- In 24 our lead female actress (Kim) has a baby! In Homeland, our lead actress is pregnant!
- In 24 season 3, the gang goes South of the border to get the virus, and to capture and bring someone to the States...Nina. In Homeland, Saul goes to Venezuela to bring back a prisoner.


Some are a little loose, but you get the point. Tonally though, both shows chose their 3rd season to go 'back to the simple things" that they did right in their 1st season, after an overly bombastic 2nd season.

Let's just hope Homeland season 4 doesn't echo 24 season 4.

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PostRe: Homeland: Season 4 - US pace, returns on Oct 5th
by Monkey Man » Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:32 am

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Starts Sunday 5th October in the US. Runs for 12 episodes.

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PostRe: Homeland: Season 4 - US pace, returns on Oct 5th
by Victor Mildew » Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:51 am

THIS YEAR, CARRIE CRIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST

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PostRe: Homeland: Season 4 - US pace, returns on Oct 5th
by Monkey Man » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:24 am


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PostRe: Homeland: Season 4 - US pace, returns on Oct 5th
by FlippinChicken » Thu Aug 21, 2014 12:04 pm

I wasn't really all that keen last year, but I thought I'd at least be semi-interested in this.

Nope. Couldn't give a strawberry float. :slol:

The daughter still gonna be in it?

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PostRe: Homeland: Season 4 - US pace, returns on Oct 5th
by satriales » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:40 pm

[iup=3540497]FlippinChicken[/iup] wrote:The daughter still gonna be in it?


...Nope

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PostRe: Homeland: Season 4 - US pace, returns tonight
by Monkey Man » Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:30 pm

Returns tonight in the US with a double episode. Back next Sunday in the UK.

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PostRe: Homeland: Season 4 - US pace, returns tonight
by chalkitdown » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:03 pm

Woop!

Gonna be great not having Brodys around to strawberry float things up.

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PostRe: Homeland: Season 4 - US pace, returns tonight
by Grumpy David » Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:11 pm

People still care about this TV show? It lost the plot fast.

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PostRe: Homeland: Season 4 - US pace, returns tonight
by Irene Demova » Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:20 pm

I don't think you have to care much to watch a show tbh

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PostRe: Homeland: Season 4 - US pace, double episode return out
by Monkey Man » Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:58 am

Reviews seem pretty favourable for its 2 part return which is out now -

For the current version of Homeland, action scenes rapidly intercut with political ruthlessness look to be exactly what the show needs to sustain its worthiness.

The Bottom Line: The series is back in leaner, smarter, more action-packed form

New characters open up intriguing new avenues to investigate Carrie's ability to operate effectively. 3 out of 4 stars

The intense serialization of contemporary TV is generally celebrated as a good thing. The intricacy and depth possible only through long-form storytelling is perhaps the greatest advantage television has over other forms of entertainment, a key reason you read articles like this, and why I’m paid to write them. Yet watching Homeland attempt to take flight in its fourth season, only to be dragged down by the heavy albatross of the past three, makes me wish there were a different way.

Meet the new, improved “Homeland.” After two disappointing seasons, the Showtime series’ dramatic culmination of its original story has shifted the focus squarely onto Claire Danes’ complex CIA operative, and simultaneously allowed the producers to shed more irritating elements (see Brody, Dana). What emerges, then, in a two-episode premiere and subsequent hour is a show that lacks the initial kick the program delivered, but plays like a smart, spare thriller — “24,” without the James Bond-style super-heroics. “Homeland” might never be a truly great series again, but if it stays on this path it will be an eminently watchable one.

All the silly family drama has finally taken a back seat to the CIA wheeling-and-dealing that made the show so damn scintillating in the first place. I’m as surprised as anyone, ladies and gents, but Homeland is back.

The first three hours of the new season that Showtime made available for review suggest “Homeland” is up for new challenges that move the show somewhat closer in tone to “24” while still maintaining a prestige sheen that it’s smarter, less formulaic and more believable than the Fox terrorism drama.

Why, after all that transpired, would you let such a series back into your life? Season 4 of Homeland appears to be genuinely engaged with this question. It seems humbled, implicitly apologetic about the mistakes that came before. The result is a series shorn of many of its complications, some of its over-reaching, and much of its implausibility. It is still psychologically astute, but it has become a much more straightforward, and largely effective, spy show. If you do not want to let Homeland back into your heart, that’s understandable. But maybe let it crash on your couch for a probationary period.

"Homeland" appears to be aging backward; it started out as a mature tale employing a sophisticated arsenal of dramatic strategies, but it has gotten more adolescent over time. Another way to sum up the evolution of "Homeland" from Season 1 to Season 4 is to say that it used to approach characterization with a scalpel, but over time, it began using a hammer instead.

It's an even greater relief, then, to report that, based on the first two episodes of "Homeland" Season 4 -– which premieres Sunday, Oct. 5, with both episodes airing back-to-back in a two-hour block – Brody is still dead. And "Homeland" shows signs of coming back to creative life.

It's still good. It's still interesting. It's still, intermittently, vital. But it's no longer brilliant, and the gap between that and what it is now is even more frustrating than if it had just become utterly terrible.

And now here we are in season four, at the point when I was ready to give up on Homeland, and wouldn't you know it: It's good again. Not great, but good: smarter than you expect, more patient with its storytelling, less interested in the characters' plotting and counter-plotting than in their often miserable inner lives.

Homeland's fourth season feels as fresh, important and relevant as yesterday's news--or tomorrow's news. A bracing, intelligent start.

As Carrie ruthlessly, recklessly pursues answers to how they got into this mess, at peace only when she's at war, Homeland regains much of its dramatic power by taking us far from home and making us wonder that if someone like Carrie is our best hope, should we just abandon hope?

The series has some work to do to extricate its characters from the hole it dug in season 3.

You'll still need to suspend disbelief to accept her as someone the CIA could trust again, much less as anonymous enough for clandestine work. But if you can make the leap, it looks as if the post-Brody world still has stories worth telling.


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PostRe: Homeland: Season 4 - US pace, double episode return out
by chalkitdown » Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:29 am

That was a really great return to form! I'm shocked. And very pleased. First episode was excellent, second was really good but not as fast paced. Carrie is so strawberry floated up. How the hell has she gotten so high up the ladder? She's such a terrible person. :lol: I was so glad when Quinn called her out on her bullshit.

Interesting to note that they didn't kill off her father mid season even though the actor died. More fuel for a future Carrie breakdown later on in the season I guess.

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PostRe: Homeland: Season 4 - US pace, double episode return out
by Crimson » Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:04 am

That was good. Quinn. :wub:

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PostRe: Homeland: Season 4 - US pace, double episode return out
by Monkey Man » Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:55 am

Pretty good return, had a very dodgy moment but everything more a scene setter for the main story starting next week.

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PostRe: Homeland: Season 4 - US pace, double episode return out
by Monkey Man » Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:45 pm

3rd episode is out online.

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PostRe: Homeland: Season 4 - US pace, started in the UK
by chalkitdown » Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:17 am

Thought it was a good episode too this week. Nice to see Fara return (looking and sounding completely different, mind). But I really hope they aren't going where I think they're going with the Carrie and Quinn stuff. Why is it even a thing all of a sudden? There's never been even the slightest romantic feeling between them before, right? It wouldn't make any sense.

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PostRe: Homeland: Season 4 - US pace, started in the UK
by Monkey Man » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:46 pm

Decent episode, ticking along nicely. No family stuff is welcome. Agree that the Carrie/Quinn stuff is weird.

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PostRe: Homeland: Season 4 - US pace, started in the UK
by chalkitdown » Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:29 am

I think the 3 of us are the only ones watching this now. :lol:

Plot's getting really interesting now. End scene was totally stupid but I guess it was in character for Carrie. Saul needs to be involved more. He's like a secondary character now which is a shame.


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