House of Cards [Netflix] S5 Coming Soon

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PostRe: House of Cards [Netflix] S5 Coming Soon
by Drumstick » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:38 pm

Just finished S5. I found this season substantially harder to follow than the previous seasons and there's quite a bit that I'm unsure about... Probably my least favourite season thus far.
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PostRe: House of Cards [Netflix] S5 Coming Soon
by smurphy » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:56 pm

Yeah this season was pretty poor.

It started out good, but as soon the election was over it just went batshit. What they were going for was cool, but it was like the show was suddenly written by the people behind 24. Mark Usher and that woman out of nowhere suddenly having ultimate power, totally inexplicable decisions from Frank, plot threads vanishing to thin air. The structure and pacing of the episodes was really odd, too.
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PostRe: House of Cards [Netflix] S5 Coming Soon
by Moggy » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:41 am

The trouble is we never really got to see Frank with ultimate power. He blagged his way to the presidency and then he was constantly firefighting or campaigning. I wanted to see him with absolute power, instead I got what felt like 2 seasons of an election campaign that was spinning out of his control.

And him deciding "meh, strawberry float it I'll work in the public sector" was just out of character compared to the rest of the season/series.
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PostRe: House of Cards [Netflix] S5 Coming Soon
by Rex Kramer » Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:05 am

I'm currently just into series 4 and they're starting to focus on Conway. Does Kinnaman get any better because at the moment he's not really selling hot-shot presidential candidate.
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PostRe: House of Cards [Netflix] S5 Coming Soon
by Drumstick » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:35 am

I don't remember S4 Conway too well but he is at least somewhat interesting in S5.
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PostRe: House of Cards [Netflix] S5 Coming Soon
by Rex Kramer » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:50 am

S4 Ep 11.



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PostRe: House of Cards [Netflix] S5 Coming Soon
by gaminglegend » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:51 pm

Got to say S5 just wasn't as good, batshit crazy is the word.

There was some interesting character developments, (I called Doug getting down and dirty with Neeve Campbell a year ago 8-) ).

Ultimately Frank had to be removed from power for the show's arc to be interesting, (i.e. not send him to jail eventually) but it's almost like it's gone back to the start. I have no interest in seeing Claire as President. It feels almost like half a season.
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PostRe: House of Cards [Netflix] S5 Coming Soon
by Moggy » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:09 pm

gaminglegend wrote:Got to say S5 just wasn't as good, batshit crazy is the word.

There was some interesting character developments, (I called Doug getting down and dirty with Neeve Campbell a year ago 8-) ).

Ultimately Frank had to be removed from power for the show's arc to be interesting, (i.e. not send him to jail eventually) but it's almost like it's gone back to the start. I have no interest in seeing Claire as President. It feels almost like half a season.


I think that eventually he would have to be removed from power, but to me it felt like a hell of a lot of build up for very little payoff.

Frank blagged his way into the Presidency, then he seemed to jump straight into the primary campaign before getting into the Presidential campaign and then quits.

I wanted at least a season of him being an outright evil bastard with almost unlimited power. As it is, it just feels flat.

In the original British version, Francis gained power in a similar way and then ruthlessly hung onto it for a decade. He would never have let the power slip away from him (even getting involved in a war to cling on!). When he realised that the game was up and he was going to be arrested, he arranged for his own assassination to cement his legacy, rather than fade away or have the public embarrassment of being deposed or put on trial. I am not saying the American version should follow that, but it’s a lot more interesting than “Frank goes to work for a bank – that’s true power!”.
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PostRe: House of Cards [Netflix] S5 Coming Soon
by smurphy » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:23 pm

gaminglegend wrote:
Ultimately Frank had to be removed from power for the show's arc to be interesting, (i.e. not send him to jail eventually) but it's almost like it's gone back to the start. I have no interest in seeing Claire as President. It feels almost like half a season.


I audibly groaned when Claire looked at the camera and said "My turn".
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PostRe: House of Cards [Netflix] S5 Coming Soon
by gaminglegend » Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:58 pm

smurphy wrote:
gaminglegend wrote:
Ultimately Frank had to be removed from power for the show's arc to be interesting, (i.e. not send him to jail eventually) but it's almost like it's gone back to the start. I have no interest in seeing Claire as President. It feels almost like half a season.


I audibly groaned when Claire looked at the camera and said "My turn".


Same, she's lost my interest as a character and I never really understand her motives for office, in Season One she was driven by her charity, and Frank's success, now it's unbelievable she's in the position she's in.
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PostRe: House of Cards [Netflix] S5 Coming Soon
by Knoyleo » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:12 pm

Only just finished watching Season 5.

It wasn't as bad as neutered Frank in season 3, but it was still pretty bad.

I couldn't stand the Tom Yates story line. It felt so forced, and unnatural, and just went absolutely nowhere. It didn't even serve a purpose, as we already know that the Underwoods consider even those close to them to be expendable. A point that was better served by throwing Doug under the train bus. I guess the writers felt they needed to have Claire do a murder for parity.

Even more laughable was the civil war reenactor who just reappears after 2 series as Frank's personal trainer, and obviously they have a thing, too.

The whole series was a bit of a drag, and didn't know where it was heading. Will Conway may as well have disappeared off the face of the Earth, the whole election rigging was so ridiculous I don't think even Easy D could have gotten away with it, and Frank turning all unreliable narrator right at the end, going "hahah, this is just what I'd planned to happen!" was the worst turn I think I've seen in the whole show.

Really disappointing.

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