How will we live in 2100?

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PostHow will we live in 2100?
by Peter Crisp » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:43 pm

With the rise of automation and the number of jobs needed to be done by humans decreasing what will happen to the people who don't have a job?

I can see 2 alternatives, both showcased by Sci-Fi in the form of The Expanse which goes with a rather troubling route of Earth becoming pretty much a slum planet where people scrabble for an existence waiting to be maybe picked for a job (if they even have the skills such as a guy who's a doctor but been waiting his entire life to be picked for a job and he was late middle age and no luck) or we have the Star Trek route of no money and everything is shared evenly and people work to better themselves and community at large.

I realise there will still be some jobs just nowhere near enough for everyone.

Some of you may indeed still be around in 2100 (people are getting into the 110+ age bracket now so it's not a fantastic idea to think we may have the medical and social systems needed to keep us all going to well over 100 years old) and this may affect your kids or grand kids so what do you think they have to look forward to?

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PostRe: How will we live in 2100?
by Moggy » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:46 pm

We won’t live Peter. We’ll all be dead.

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by NickSCFC » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:50 pm

I think global culture with be less diverse in terms of regions and countries, most of the world will be westernised with America still being the main super power, at the same time people will be more individualistic often having more things in common with someone the other side of the planet than their next door neighbour.

Islam and Christianity will still be huge, but a lot more watered down than they are today with people being more liberal.

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PostRe: How will we live in 2100?
by Peter Crisp » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:53 pm

Moggy wrote:We won’t live Peter. We’ll all be dead.


You may be but I play to become a cyborg. I admit I'd be a rubbish cyborg who just wanders about talking about new TV tech and asking what people think will be at E3 next year but that's not the point :shifty: .


Wooooo it's the PS19 reveal party :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: .

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PostRe: How will we live in 2100?
by Moggy » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:57 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:
Moggy wrote:We won’t live Peter. We’ll all be dead.


You may be but I play to become a cyborg. I admit I'd be a rubbish cyborg who just wanders about talking about new TV tech and asking what people think will be at E3 next year but that's not the point :shifty: .


Wooooo it's the PS19 reveal party :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: .


You’ll still be waiting for a decent OLED TV.

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by NickSCFC » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:06 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:Wooooo it's the PS19 reveal party :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: .


Another thing about globalisation, todays brands could potentially be around forever.

The likes of Nike, CocaCola, Toyota and Google could still be going in 500 years.

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PostRe: How will we live in 2100?
by Dual » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:21 pm

Not much will change but we'll live underwater.

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PostRe: How will we live in 2100?
by Peter Crisp » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:24 pm

NickSCFC wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:Wooooo it's the PS19 reveal party :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: .


Another thing about globalisation, todays brands could potentially be around forever.

The likes of Nike, CocaCola, Toyota and Google could still be going in 500 years.


Don't be so sure about that.

The East India Company made Apple now look like poor people but they're now a footnote in history.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company

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by NickSCFC » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:27 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:
NickSCFC wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:Wooooo it's the PS19 reveal party :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: .


Another thing about globalisation, todays brands could potentially be around forever.

The likes of Nike, CocaCola, Toyota and Google could still be going in 500 years.


Don't be so sure about that.

The East India Company made Apple now look like poor people but they're now a footnote in history.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company


East India Company wasn't a brand though.

Having a Nike tick on your feet or an Audi badge on your car looks cool, that won't really go away.

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PostRe: How will we live in 2100?
by jawafour » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:28 pm

NickSCFC wrote:Another thing about globalisation, todays brands could potentially be around forever.

The likes of Nike, CocaCola, Toyota and Google could still be going in 500 years.

That's an interesting thought. I'm not sure... even the biggest of companies are only ever a few bad choices away from decline. The Midland Bank was the biggest bank in the world in the 1950s but it was later subsumed by HSBC. Enron, once the seventh largest company in America with a stock market value of $90bn, went bust.

But, yeah, overall I think that it's hard to imagine Amazon and Google getting the competition to halt their virtual world domination.

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by NickSCFC » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:30 pm

jawafour wrote:[That's an interesting thought. I'm not sure... even the biggest of companies are only ever a few bad choices away from decline.


Need to separate the company from the brand here.

Even if the Nike company did go bust, someone else would just make trainers with those designs.

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PostRe: How will we live in 2100?
by jawafour » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:44 pm

NickSCFC wrote:
jawafour wrote:[That's an interesting thought. I'm not sure... even the biggest of companies are only ever a few bad choices away from decline.


Need to separate the company from the brand here.

Even if the Nike company did go bust, someone else would just make trainers with those designs.

I think brands are more likely to change than companies. Sure, looking at things today the Nike swoosh is desirable for many, but fashions and ideals change. As a recent example, Nokia (okay, a company, but a famous brand - the biggest brand of mobile phone in the world in the late 90s and early 2000s) has disappeared from public view as it has been subsumed by Microsoft. Equally, the Amoco petrol (gas) brand was massive in the USA but went away after a take-over.

In the Nike example, should a company take it over than I'm sure we'd see the brand still exist for a time... but eventually the owner's preferred brand would take centre stage.

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PostRe: How will we live in 2100?
by Vermilion » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:53 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:The East India Company made Apple now look like poor people but they're now a footnote in history.


I buy tea from the East India Company, they have a shop on Conduit St in Central London, along with branches at Covent Garden, inside Harrods, and Westfield.

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PostRe: How will we live in 2100?
by Peter Crisp » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:54 pm

Trends change all the time. Just because Nike and coke are popular now may mean nothing in 20 years when kids will want the cool new thing.

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by NickSCFC » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:55 pm

jawafour wrote:As a recent example, Nokia (okay, a company, but a famous brand - the biggest brand of mobile phone in the world in the late 90s and early 2000s) has disappeared from public view as it has been subsumed by Microsoft.


The Nokia brand was then bought by a company called HMD global and has been having some success lately with Nokia branded Android phones.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/13/1700 ... lus-report

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PostRe: How will we live in 2100?
by Peter Crisp » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:55 pm

Vermilion wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:The East India Company made Apple now look like poor people but they're now a footnote in history.


I buy tea from the East India Company, they have a shop on Conduit St in Central London, along with branches at Covent Garden, inside Harrods, and Westfield.


Yep they are still going but they used to be a global trade powerhouse with its own standing army.
I don't see Apple funding a global military force any time soon.

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PostRe: How will we live in 2100?
by Alvin Flummux » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:57 pm

A few of my predictions:

  • Automation will have eaten away at a lot of jobs currently performed by humans.
  • Universal Basic Income (UBI) will have been instituted in many more progressive countries to prevent an explosion of poverty, particularly in the countries worst impacted by automation. I don't expect that the US will be among them, and its people will suffer badly for it, but Europe probably will, as will swathes of Asia, Australia etc.
  • The US, rather than opt for a UBI system, will become the epicenter of a terrific backlash against automation and other scientific and cultural advances. Trumpism 2.0, but probably worse. Isolationist, protectionist, luddite-esque protest movements will rage across the world, but none will compare to America's.
  • Some people will be living on a near-permanent basis in space habitats, on the lunar surface, or on Mars. The impacts on their physiologies will fascinate and alarm scientists and biologists in equal measure.
  • SpaceX/The Boring Company will be busily exploring mining opportunities in the Asteroid Belt.
  • Much of Africa will be in the process of reorganizing its national borders along more natural tribal and ethnic lines. Expect a lot of wars, countless atrocities, extremist factions etc along the way. Nevertheless, it will also become more developed and westernized.
  • If Mexico can get its gooseberry fool together, it might be able to start challenging the US economically by 2100. I can see the CIA interfering with the stability of the Mexican government, maybe even attempt s'more coups, to try to keep it down.
  • Space-to-Ground energy transference will be a practical reality, its advancement likely driven by a major war between great powers.
  • Exo-suits. Exo-suits everywhere.
  • Intelligent Hypersonic Ordnance will, among developed nations, replace the world's arsenals of traditional ballistic missiles, and will kill their need for Carrier Battlegroups. Their militaries as a whole will be smaller, more agile, and far more technologically sophisticated. Less developed countries' militaries will resemble today's armed forces.
  • Worldwide travel for the wealthy will take a small number of hours, but for us plebs, perhaps Concorde's speeds would be a more realistic expectation.
  • Manually operated vehicles will only be a common sight on off-world ventures, in professional racing, or in old timey nostalgia-fests like today's horses & carriages.
  • Japan will re-militarize, in response to growing Chinese aggression. It will use the US' aid when it can, but will become much more inclined to go it alone wherever possible.
  • Conditions and ailments caused by obesity will be the overwhelming cause of death in developed countries. Nano tech-dependent fitness will not become a reality.
  • Gene editing will produce Dinosaur-esque pets for the wealthy, and for zoos. The rest of us will have to make do with robotic toys.
  • Vertical farming will begin to take off in the urban centers of the developed world, in an attempt to free up agricultural resources to tackle world hunger, or provide space for more national parkland as more and more species become critically endangered.

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PostRe: How will we live in 2100?
by Vermilion » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:59 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:Yep they are still going but they used to be a global trade powerhouse with its own standing army.
I don't see Apple funding a global military force any time soon.


Nope, Apple will be too busy in a few years launching £3000 phones, and the usual bunch of desperates will still be seen queuing up outside the store on launch day.

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by NickSCFC » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:25 pm

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/how-to-p ... uture-past

Perhaps the only thing that will really shock him is how little has changed. Many bank branches still exist, and more cash is used across America and the EU than ever, despite predictions of a cashless society. Paper books still sell globally, along with newspapers, particularly in nations like India; sales of children's books soared by over ten per cent in the UK last year, while Kindle sales flattened. Most people still commute to work, and complain about volumes of email. Pure home-working is rare. Business travel still grows, despite rapid adoption of video conferencing.
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Cars, fashion, music styles, radio, TV soaps, global sporting events, film plots and live theatre are all much the same. Yes, there has been a shift from watching live TV to TV-on-demand and social networking or web surfing, but such things would not be such a great surprise to him.

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PostRe: How will we live in 2100?
by Ironhide » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:53 pm

Vegetarianism and veganism will become the norm as meat production becomes too costly due to environmental changes, some meat will be available but will be grown in a lab rather than from actual animals and be too expensive for the average person.

Gene therapy will be common medical practice in developed countries.

Small groups of people will be living on Mars permanently in preparation for mass colonization efforts.

Robots will be a common sight and be carrying out construction, manual labour and some policing jobs.

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