HS2.

SEP wrote:

Moggy wrote:The good news is our increasingly fascist government will make the trains run on time.

Useless banana splits can't even get the trains built on time.

It is thought the delay will primarily affect sections from Manchester to Crewe and Birmingham to Crewe.

Peter Crisp wrote:The thing that puzzles me is if you watch the construction update videos they put out things are going pretty well on phase 1.
They've also been making changes throughout to reduce costs and carbon footprint such as using way less material to make viaducts.

rinks wrote:Just PR propaganda.

Vermilion wrote:Once a project actually gets going, the finished creation is usually pretty decent (the elizabeth line is top class).

The problem in this country, is that infrastructure projects can take up to 10 years before even a single digger arrives on site, which in turn means costs increase, and so govts make cutbacks.

Had HS2 started construction even just a couple of years after the process began, construction would be far more advanced by now and it would have cost a lot less.

It also raises the prospect of trains terminating at an outer London station, Old Oak Common, for almost a decade before trains arrive at Euston.

Transport experts have said trains terminating at Old Oak Common for a prolonged period would put huge pressure on the Elizabeth line and mean there is little time saved in practice for journeys into central London.

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:How on earth have they strawberry floated this up so badly? What's going on? Is it because we have stricter laws on health and safety, procurement, environment, land ownership etc etc or is it something else? I instinctively jump to a sort of conspiracy theory involving corrupt Tory politicians doing things in a way that benefits their friends/donors, resulting in project failures.

On the face of it, a super-fast train that takes you from London to Birmingham to Manchester etc and frees up enormous capacity on the railway system is a very good idea. How have these clowns turned it into such a disastrous one?!

Peter Crisp wrote:

rinks wrote:Just PR propaganda.

They're actually a pretty decent watch.
They also did the same for the Elizabeth Line and they were always interesting.
They were pretty honest and showed the shitshow that was working during the lockdowns in confined tunnels.

The future of the High Speed 2 (HS2) railway is in question after the official infrastructure watchdog warned the “successful delivery” of the multi-billion-pound project “appears to be unachievable”.

In a report issued last week, the Infrastructure and Projects Authority (IPA) applied a “red” rating to plans for the construction of the first two phases of the troubled rail line, from London to Birmingham and then on to Crewe in Cheshire.

It comes as a leaked document separately showed that a plan to strip back its proposed Euston terminal would still result in a £1 billion overspend.

The IPA said its red rating means that “successful delivery of the project appears to be unachievable. There are major issues with project definition, schedule, budget, quality and/or benefits delivery, which at this stage do not appear to be manageable or resolvable. The project may need re-scoping and/or its overall viability reassessed”.

Renewed questions over HS2

The assessment will renew questions about whether construction of HS2 should continue. Boris Johnson took the decision to go ahead with the project in 2020 despite acknowledging that its costs had swelled from £42.6 billion when MPs first approved HS2 legislation, to more than £100 billion.

KingK wrote:strawberry floating hate HS2. So many roadworks all around me due to HS2 construction. Delays, delays every strawberry floating time I go anywhere

Benzin wrote:I mean who wants to support areas that won't vote Conservative?