I'm a sceptic now, says ex-NASA climate boss

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by Cal » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:30 am

The turning point—it’s becoming chic to be a skeptic

This must be it, surely, the point where being a skeptic has more scientific cachet than being a believer. The trickle is becoming a flood. We are reaching the stage where independent scientists will want to make sure they are known to be on the skeptical side of the fence. None other than James Hansens former supervisor at NASA has just announced that not only is he a skeptic, but that Hansen is an embarrassment to NASA and was never muzzled.

Theon joins a growing list of over 650 prominent skeptics. Here’s how the list is becoming a story all of it’s own, and the drive to publicly announce skepticism is picking up pace.

Dec 11, 2008: Marc Morano released an updated list of 650 skeptics, it’s a 230 page pdf file with quotes and qualifications listed from skeptical prominent scientists that even includes past and present IPCC authors. As people became aware of the list, the clamour began from those who want to join in. 11 scientists joined the list in the next two weeks including Dr Schaffer, and Dr Happer (below).

Dec 19, 2008: Dr Schaffer, Professor of Ecology & Evolutionary Biology Uni of Arizona, has authored more than 80 scientific publications and authored the paper “Human Population and Carbon Dioxide.”

“The recent lack of warming in the face of continued increases in CO2 suggests (a) that the effects of greenhouse gas forcing have been over-stated; (b) that the import of natural variability has been underestimated and (c) that concomitant rises of atmospheric CO2 and temperature in previous decades may be coincidental rather than causal,” he added. “I fear that things could easily go the other way: that the climate could cool, perhaps significantly; that the consequences of a new Little Ice Age or worse would be catastrophic and that said consequences will be exacerbated if we meanwhile adopt warmist prescriptions. This possibility, plus the law of unintended consequences, leads me to view proposed global engineering ‘solutions’ as madness.”

Dr. W. M. Schaffer, Professor, Uni of Arizona

Dec 22, 2007: Dr Will Happer, Professor at Princeton University and former Director of Energy Research at the Department of Energy from 1990 to 1993, and has published over 200 scientific papers.

“I had the privilege of being fired by Al Gore, since I refused to go along with his alarmism. I did not need the job that badly… I have spent a long research career studying physics that is closely related to the greenhouse effect, for example, absorption and emission of visible and infrared radiation, and fluid flow… Fears about man-made global warming are unwarranted and are not based on good science.”

Dr Will Happer, Professor, Princeton

January 7th, 2009: Jack Schmitt—the last man to walk on the moon, announced he was a skeptic.

“As a geologist, I love Earth observations,” Schmitt wrote, “But, it is ridiculous to tie this objective to a ‘consensus’ that humans are causing global warming when human experience, geologic data and history, and current cooling can argue otherwise. ‘Consensus,’ as many have said, merely represents the absence of definitive science. You know as well as I, the ‘global warming scare’ is being used as a political tool to increase government control over American lives, incomes and decision making…”

Jack Schmitt, Geology PhD, Harvard, NASA Astronaut

This is probably the sweetest of the lot in a way. As Marc Morano points out, back in 2006 Al Gore said “The debate’s over. The people who dispute the international consensus on global warming are in the same category now with the people who think the moon landing was staged on a movie lot in Arizona.”

Back then, being a skeptic was supposedly equivalent to being a nut-case. Now, even those who’ve landed on the moon dispute the concensus.

The momentum is growing. History will record this cold northern winter as the season when being known as a skeptic became scientifically hip, and being labelled a ‘believer’—scientifically uncool (as it should be) .

I say: scientists everywhere, be proud of our standards, stand up and be counted. Rise against Dark-Age-reasoning, political pressure and the call of government grants.

http://joannenova.com.au/2009/01/28/the ... a-skeptic/

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PostRe: I'm a sceptic now, says ex-NASA climate boss
by Skarjo » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:53 am

Cal wrote:
The turning point—it’s becoming chic to be a skeptic

The momentum is growing. History will record this cold northern winter as the season when being known as a skeptic became scientifically hip, and being labelled a ‘believer’—scientifically uncool (as it should be).


Good to know where the sceptic's priorities lie; not with fact, logic or a consistently competitive model but aligning themselves with the 'hippest' theory.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

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by Cal » Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:38 pm

Skarjo wrote:Good to know where the sceptic's priorities lie; not with fact, logic or a consistently competitive model but aligning themselves with the 'hippest' theory.


Sour grapes? :lol:

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PostRe: I'm a sceptic now, says ex-NASA climate boss
by Skarjo » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:18 pm

Cal wrote:
Skarjo wrote:Good to know where the sceptic's priorities lie; not with fact, logic or a consistently competitive model but aligning themselves with the 'hippest' theory.


Sour grapes? :lol:


Eh?

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PostRe: I'm a sceptic now, says ex-NASA climate boss
by Fm » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:25 pm

Jack Schmitt cannot be a real name.

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PostRe: I'm a sceptic now, says ex-NASA climate boss
by Slartibartfast » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:48 pm

Cal wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:And using the words 'enforced by law' is a misnomer - it's the national curriculum, hardly a persecuted diktat.


Dik•tat:
2. An authoritative or dogmatic statement or decree.


The education secretary, Alan Johnson, said: "It is inconceivable that young people growing up today should not be taught about issues like climate change - it has enormous relevance to their lives. Children not only learn about our future, they shape it.


Sooo... what? I really, really don't understand your point here. Thanks for pointing out the meaning of a word I myself used, but are you about to start wildly raving about the national curriculum? Is that thought control, perhaps?

You've not responded to a single other point my post addressed, you response is weak and so is your thinking.


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