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by Dual » Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:17 pm

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by Cuttooth » Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:20 pm

The concept of the kicks is what jumped out when I watched it.
It makes no sense for Arthur to go spinning around in the van and not get kicked out of the hotel dream other than to set up the cool as hell (and masterfully shot) floaty fighting sequence. Presumably since that was his own dream, if he got kicked out of it the rest of the gang might be stuck, but it comes across as being made up as it was written to get from one cool looking sequence to the next.

Like how Kaito can buy up an airline (but apparently can't hire someone to pose as a stewardess to administer the sedative) without breaking a sweat. It made me question why he's so desperate to break up the guy's business empire in the first place.

And you have Ariadne and Fischer needing, and being able to, kick themselves out of Limbo despite being told that wasn't possible within a dream state (it always has to be initiated higher up).

It's also for the most part remarkably unambitious beyond the interpretation of the concept of dreaming within dreams. Other than the floaty fighting bit, Ariadne's training dream, and the look of the state of Limbo, there was very little visually unique within the film, the reason given that you can do lots of impressive looking gooseberry fool but please don't because the dreampeople will kill you.


The film has plenty of positives, it's well shot and well produced with a good cast, DiCaprio especially. It's simply that it seems Nolan wanted to do what he did with the question of consciousness in making Memento and do it with dreams and I don't think it worked nearly as well.

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PostRe: Inception
by Albert » Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:28 pm

If I'm honest, I lost track of the Story line a few times, but that may have been down to the fact that I watched it over 3 nights as I kept falling asleep. (Long ass film)

What I did follow, I thought was great, and will definitly do a 2nd viewing soon.

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PostRe: Inception
by Captain Kinopio » Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:38 pm

White Knight wrote:The concept of the kicks is what jumped out when I watched it.
It makes no sense for Arthur to go spinning around in the van and not get kicked out of the hotel dream other than to set up the cool as hell (and masterfully shot) floaty fighting sequence. Presumably since that was his own dream, if he got kicked out of it the rest of the gang might be stuck, but it comes across as being made up as it was written to get from one cool looking sequence to the next.

Like how Kaito can buy up an airline (but apparently can't hire someone to pose as a stewardess to administer the sedative) without breaking a sweat. It made me question why he's so desperate to break up the guy's business empire in the first place.

And you have Ariadne and Fischer needing, and being able to, kick themselves out of Limbo despite being told that wasn't possible within a dream state (it always has to be initiated higher up).

It's also for the most part remarkably unambitious beyond the interpretation of the concept of dreaming within dreams. Other than the floaty fighting bit, Ariadne's training dream, and the look of the state of Limbo, there was very little visually unique within the film, the reason given that you can do lots of impressive looking gooseberry fool but please don't because the dreampeople will kill you.


The film has plenty of positives, it's well shot and well produced with a good cast, DiCaprio especially. It's simply that it seems Nolan wanted to do what he did with the question of consciousness in making Memento and do it with dreams and I don't think it worked nearly as well.


This place has some weird obsession with Memento. Inception, for me, totally outclasses it in every possible way.

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PostRe: Inception
by Preezy » Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:43 pm

Inception rules.

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PostRe: Inception
by Skippy » Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:51 pm

Ooops No Bullets wrote:
White Knight wrote:The concept of the kicks is what jumped out when I watched it.
It makes no sense for Arthur to go spinning around in the van and not get kicked out of the hotel dream other than to set up the cool as hell (and masterfully shot) floaty fighting sequence. Presumably since that was his own dream, if he got kicked out of it the rest of the gang might be stuck, but it comes across as being made up as it was written to get from one cool looking sequence to the next.

Like how Kaito can buy up an airline (but apparently can't hire someone to pose as a stewardess to administer the sedative) without breaking a sweat. It made me question why he's so desperate to break up the guy's business empire in the first place.

And you have Ariadne and Fischer needing, and being able to, kick themselves out of Limbo despite being told that wasn't possible within a dream state (it always has to be initiated higher up).

It's also for the most part remarkably unambitious beyond the interpretation of the concept of dreaming within dreams. Other than the floaty fighting bit, Ariadne's training dream, and the look of the state of Limbo, there was very little visually unique within the film, the reason given that you can do lots of impressive looking gooseberry fool but please don't because the dreampeople will kill you.


The film has plenty of positives, it's well shot and well produced with a good cast, DiCaprio especially. It's simply that it seems Nolan wanted to do what he did with the question of consciousness in making Memento and do it with dreams and I don't think it worked nearly as well.


This place has some weird obsession with Memento. Inception, for me, totally outclasses it in every possible way.


Memento is older and not as well know. Therefore it is better

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PostRe: Inception
by Memento Mori » Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:54 pm

I just finished watching the movie and I really enjoyed it. It held my interest all the way through and I followed the plot fine. Well shot and it had one of the best ensemble casts in recent memory.

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This place has some weird obsession with Memento.

Well I am awesome.

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PostRe: Inception
by Cuttooth » Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:03 am

Snowy wrote:Memento is older and not as well know. Therefore it is better

Jesus Christ. :lol:

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PostRe: Inception
by Abs » Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:10 am

Snowy wrote:Memento is older and not as well know. Therefore it is better


I'd say Memento was a better film, not because of it's age or popularity or because i'm trying to be cool. I'd never seen a film like it till then, i've still never seen irreversable, which is in a simmilar style i think.

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PostRe: Inception
by rudderless » Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:35 am

Snowy wrote:Memento is older and not as well know. Therefore it is better


No, it's just better. More exciting, cleverer, and it doesn't spend any of its runtime pretending to be the snow level from a Call of Duty game (which incidentally has to be the most boring action sequence Nolan's ever shot; good job the rest of the film's so great).

Inception is still a superb film, but Memento left me breathless when I came out of the cinema, wanting to tell everyone how brilliant it was.

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PostRe: Inception
by jamcc » Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:44 am

Memento is a fantastic film. So clever.

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PostRe: Inception
by Oblomov Boblomov » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:38 am

Memento is gooseberry fool the second time round. Inception is better the second time round.

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PostRe: Inception
by Beans » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:57 am

I thought Memento was by far the superior film out of the two. Must be because I'm trying to be cool and not because I actually prefer it :roll:

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PostRe: Inception
by Skippy » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:46 am

I was being sarcastic, I love Memento and I wouldn't blame anyone for liking it more than Inception.

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PostRe: Inception
by Beans » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:54 am

I was just looking at Nolan's filmography and I must say that Memento is the only film of his I really like :?

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PostRe: Inception
by JK » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:23 am

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:Memento is gooseberry fool the second time round.


Are you kidding? If anything Memento is better when you know what's going on.

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by Frank » Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:35 pm

I didn't even realise Inception was meant to be deep, to be honest. It was a nice action blockbuster with a decent amount of story, so that's why I rated it so highly the first time I watched it. It was a welcome break from the brainless Michael Bay style of blockbuster. I've got it on blu-ray from Christmas, so we'll see how it holds up with repeat viewings.

I echo rudd's sentiments about the snow bit, though. I think that was when I took my second toilet break of the film :fp:

I don't really think it's meant to be one of those things you read so deeply in to. The only bit that could really be read was the final few seconds.

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PostRe: Inception
by Captain Kinopio » Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:16 pm

Frank wrote:I didn't even realise Inception was meant to be deep, to be honest. It was a nice action blockbuster with a decent amount of story, so that's why I rated it so highly the first time I watched it. It was a welcome break from the brainless Michael Bay style of blockbuster. I've got it on blu-ray from Christmas, so we'll see how it holds up with repeat viewings.

I echo rudd's sentiments about the snow bit, though. I think that was when I took my second toilet break of the film :fp:

I don't really think it's meant to be one of those things you read so deeply in to. The only bit that could really be read was the final few seconds.


2 toilet breaks.

It's barely 2 and a half hours what's wrong with you

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PostRe: Inception
by Mr Chips » Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:27 pm

Loved it, second best film of the year (first being toy story 3).

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PostInception
by Frank » Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:22 pm

Ooops No Bullets wrote:2 toilet breaks.

It's barely 2 and a half hours what's wrong with you


See that thread about weak bladders, brah.

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