Interstellar (7th Nov)

I watched the scenes in question and I'll admit it's not a great cut, but he does (Gordon) stop talking before it cuts away, his mouth isn't still moving. Also to your earlier criticism of the scene where batman jumps out of the window to save Rachael. The reason he doesn't go back up I'm guessing is because Rachael is now safe and away from harm, Harvey was choked out earlier by Bruce and hidden away somewhere safe in the apartment. So I would think if he did go back up, Joker and posse would have cleared off. Plus the building itself was closer to a skyscrapper than a mere 4 story house, at least much taller than what his grapple hook could probably reach. I think you're stretching with that one tbh.

I was looking on youtube and there are videos where this guy breaks down the bad cuts of the film and it was interesting, but the whole time I was thinking, it never jarred me when watching. I dunno, I think it's one of those things, if you're pretty familiar with film editing techniques or have some understanding of what makes a good cut - I hadn't before. Then these things possible become more apparent. I'm not one of those Nolan fanatics who go overboard with their hype of the director, but I do appreciate the stories he tells even if they sometimes go a little far. I also like the fact he tries to do complex scenes if where possible without the use of computer graphics, but instead, actually build elaborate sets to achieve a more believable shot. This also helps the actors because they have more to work with than just a green screen. I wish more films didn't rely on so much CG and went a bit more old school in their production methods.

I think it's a myth that Nolan has these easily-angered super-fans anyway. They're a product of the hype that surrounds his films, the glowing reviews he always gets, the standards he is held to and then a few typical internet commenters with the caps locks stuck.

I bloody love Nolan, but I know his flaws and many others who love his work do as well. I do think he's too heavily scrutinised sometimes though.

There's also this desire from some movie fans online for everything to make perfect air-tight logical sense that can be deterimental to film-making. Not everything has to be perfectly logical, very few genre films ever are. That's not something I'm saying in relation to the TDK scene being discussed, more a general thing.

[iup=3612345]Tafdolphin[/iup] wrote:The scene I was referring to ends. Cuts from Gordon's face to a flyby of Wayne tower. Have a look round t'internet, Nolan's editing is quite well known as a weakness.

I have to say I'd never heard of these issues, I watched TDK recently and didn't notice any problems...yeah just watched it again.

Don't know what you are complaining about, cutting straight between scenes like that is one of the best things about Nolan movies.

Anyway watched Interstellar this afternoon, really enjoyed it. Only issue I have is the scene where Anne Hathaway's character is talking about love being the only thing we can perceive that crosses the dimension of time, really creaky dialogue. Stuff like that being an issue in Nolan films I'd understand, its not what he does though so its not normally an issue.

[iup=3612815]1>3>4>2[/iup] wrote:Wow, now that's stretching. that is the most forced justification of a badly cut scene I've ever heard. Harvey and Rachael are safe so strawberry float the guests who are trapped with the homicidal maniac? Surely if it is a Skyscraper then there is only a few points of exit The Joker could take and Batman being on the ground would be in the perfect place to cut them off. Lets just admit that the scene (one of many in the movie) was badly edited or that Nolan had written himself into a corner and chose to just ignore it. I like Nolans films but the way he is treated by people as some sort of infallible director when his flaws are so evident really irks me.

I mean I don't know how Joker would have got out. And I agree it would make sense as batman being a superhero, for him to protect those others at the party. I guess before I read Tafs post I never really thought about it that in depth. When you look at it that way, even if batman strawberry floats off, which we can only assume he does. I suppose he could have got Gordon and his crew to arrive at the building and surround it. Send him a text or something :lol:

Honestly I really don't know. All I was trying to make a point of is that you can't really go, this didn't happen so bad edit. I mean it would make more sense as far as the story goes granted, but they clearly wanted to move it along. I guess when you consider things the story is moved along quite hurried in many scenes, but I don't necessarily think it's always a bad editing job.

This is the guy who couldn't strawberry floating edit together a proper conversation at the start of returns

[iup=3613097]Irene Demova[/iup] wrote:This is the guy who couldn't strawberry floating edit together a proper conversation at the start of returns

Or you know, perhaps that's the way he wanted it to be.

His intent doesn't matter when the end result is gooseberry fool, hell the filmmaker's intent literally never matters when you're judging a film

Spoilers...

Just got back from seeing this. Really enjoyed it, it definitely wasn't without its issues mainly in the first half, the whole incentive for going didn't seem to really grab me and it was rather slow to get going or build up the sense of a mankind doomed. However the second half, from Matt Damon onwards was brilliant, absolutely adored that whole docking sequence after the explosion and then blasting into the event horizon was dramatic as strawberry float and looked incredible. The whole thing handled some big topics really well in the end and actually started feeling a little bit emotional about the whole thing by the end.

The humour was bang on too.

Edit: Why is everyone talking about Batman?

Just watched this in IMAX. Looked lovely, enjoyed everything up to the event horizon and then thought it was a bit lame after that. Loved psycho Matt Damon and the robots!
Somebody started clapping at the end and stuttered to a halt when they realised no one else was.
Also IMAX is strawberry floating loud.

[iup=3613097]Irene Demova[/iup] wrote:This is the guy who couldn't strawberry floating edit together a proper conversation at the start of returns

Wait what film are we talking about here, I'm confused?

[iup=3613288]Captain Kinopio[/iup] wrote:
Edit: Why is everyone talking about Batman?

I mentioned a scene in TDK that illustrated my complaint that Interstellar had some dodgy editing, people start debating it. Tbh, I'm amazed Denny hasn't been in to tear me a new one.

[iup=3613322]zXe[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3613097]Irene Demova[/iup] wrote:This is the guy who couldn't strawberry floating edit together a proper conversation at the start of returns

Wait what film are we talking about here, I'm confused?

Rises even

[iup=3613261]Irene Demova[/iup] wrote:His intent doesn't matter when the end result is gooseberry fool, hell the filmmaker's intent literally never matters when you're judging a film

I literally don't know where to start.

I didn't say anything about judging his intent, so that whole comment is irrelevant.

You don't like how he edits his films, fair enough, whatever (though you might want to take into consideration other opinions). But that isn't what you said, you said he couldn't do something, what you actually meant is that you didn't like the way he did it.

No, the conversation makes no strawberry floating sense. This isn't subjective you dense twat

That TARS eh? He's havin a laugh! 60% humour eh? What a plonker!

Irene Demova wrote:No, the conversation makes no strawberry floating sense. This isn't subjective you dense twat

Can we chill out please?

Saw it today in IMAX.

Loved it. Very moving in parts, the video playbacks were the most emotional.

The use of sound is just amazing with no sound working so well in some scenes. Flashes of Kubrick and the greats are everywhere.

I thought it had massively lost its way during a scene towards the end but it all came together in the final few scenes.

Worth mentioning the soundtrack is as good as expected too. Overall I'd say its up there with Inception, very different but very very good.

Not sure if its my film of the year. Guardians of the Galaxy or Planet of the Apes 2 were more enjoyable but for a great cinema experience its what IMAX was made for.

Also BEST ROBOT DESIGN EVER! I'd buy a toy of those in a second.

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Always interesting reading the reaction to Nolan films. Like him or not it's great that his work can cause such debate. I line his editing, the quick cuts and soundtrack give his films a constant sense of urgency and tension. I don't get the silly but picking, not many films don't have a 'why didn't X just do Y' moment.

Personally I loved it. Probably his worst story and dialogue but as a spectacle it was absolutely stunning. Needs to be seen at the cinema.

What the strawberry float is going on in this thread? :dread:

Saw this tonight. Loved it for the most part. Second half more so than the first. Soundtrack and visuals were strawberry floating incredible. The love conquers all message was corny as strawberry float however and I rolled my eyes so much at Anne Hathaway's speech.

[iup=3615018]chalkitdown[/iup] wrote:What the strawberry float is going on in this thread?

Saw this tonight. Loved it for the most part. Second half more so than the first. Soundtrack and visuals were strawberry floating incredible. The love conquers all message was corny as strawberry float however and I rolled my eyes so much at Anne Hathaway's speech.

We should have just made a new thread purely about Christopher Nolan as to not nearly derail this one :roll:

Interstellar (7th Nov)

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