Is a FOOTBALLER worth £500,000 a WEEK?

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by Red Yoshi » Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:33 pm

He is worth it if his employers are willing to pay it.

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by Mr Thropwimp » Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:37 pm

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Charles Manson wrote:
Jaxley wrote:No, a footballer should not be earning more than people who save lives, just for kicking a ball around a field in a certain way.


It's easier to find people capable of working in the emergency services than it is to find people good enough for premiership football.


That's pretty much a bollocks argument, I'll take someone who can save my life over a footballer any day.


I don't see how you're contesting it. It's basic supply and demand.

If there were loads of professional footballers and it was easy to join a premiership club, you'd never see the pay packet grow as big as 500k, ever. If anyone demanded a higher salary, it wouldn't be hard to find another player more than capable of the job who didn't care about the pay.

Plenty of people want to be police officers, fire fighters or surgeons/nurses/paramedics etc. You don't need a higher wage to attract them because they're already interested in the job - most likely for the humanitarian aspect that would subsume the desire for a huge pay packet.

So even in that aspect it's not just basic economics, it might be to do with personal beliefs and a desire to help other people outstripping the need for tonnes of cash. (The fire fighters strikes do suggest otherwise though, so I might be talking rubbish with this point.)

And as much as I'm trying to justify the daft footballer wages, I don't agree with them. Largely because I have absolutely no interest in the sport or the lifestyle choices often made by the spoilt players.

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by Pancake » Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:41 pm

I agree with everything Charles Manson says. And that is the most bizarre thing I've ever thought.

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by thousand yard stare » Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:43 pm

Cropolite wrote:I don't care, there are League 2 players earning more than Doctors & Dentists. There's no justice in it.


I'm not saying you're wrong, but it's not like we live in a world that usually values humanitarian principles in front of entertainment. It's a bit unfair to single out Kaka or Man City just cos that's the big news story of the day!

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by Stig » Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:44 pm

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HrC wrote:The thing is, when does it stop. If Kaka gets 500k a week, then every other "top" footballer would want a similar wage.


They wouldn't get it though, clubs which haven't got limitless funds simply couldn't justify paying those sort of wages. Which'll result in the 'top' footballers all wanting to join the one or two clubs who can pay it.

Premier League needs to put it's foot down and introduce salary caps. They won't though.


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by bear » Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:47 pm

Cropolite wrote:
Drunken_Master wrote:
Cropolite wrote:
Charles Manson wrote:
Jaxley wrote:No, a footballer should not be earning more than people who save lives, just for kicking a ball around a field in a certain way.


It's easier to find people capable of working in the emergency services than it is to find people good enough for premiership football.


That's pretty much a bollocks argument, I'll take someone who can save my life over a footballer any day.


you're not paying the wages though.


I don't care, there are League 2 players earning more than Doctors & Dentists. There's no justice in it.

How long is the average footballers career though? Surely they should be entitled to earn as much as possible while they are playing because their career could be over at 34?

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by Cal » Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:48 pm

I'm with Alan Sugar on this. In his recent profile on BBC2 he was very frank about his attitude to professional footballers: most of them are barely distinguishable from thugs and criminal yobs and almost all are preening prima donnas. In a word: scum. It's outrageous these PremierSHIT clowns are paid these offensive amounts for d*cking about and setting a bad example to every so-called 'fan'. Truly pathetic.

Children are dying everyday in this sh*thole of world from lack of basic essentials like clean water and basic medical aid. How the f*ck do these f*cking morons live with themselves?

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by Christopher » Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:49 pm

bear wrote:
Cropolite wrote:
Drunken_Master wrote:
Cropolite wrote:
Charles Manson wrote:
Jaxley wrote:No, a footballer should not be earning more than people who save lives, just for kicking a ball around a field in a certain way.


It's easier to find people capable of working in the emergency services than it is to find people good enough for premiership football.


That's pretty much a bollocks argument, I'll take someone who can save my life over a footballer any day.


you're not paying the wages though.


I don't care, there are League 2 players earning more than Doctors & Dentists. There's no justice in it.

How long is the average footballers career though? Surely they should be entitled to earn as much as possible while they are playing because their career could be over at 34?


Should have got an education then.

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by bear » Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:49 pm

Cal wrote:I'm with Alan Sugar on this. In his recent profile on BBC2 he was very frank about his attitude to professional footballers: most of them are barely distinguishable from thugs and criminal yobs and almost all are preening prima donnas. In a word: scum. It's outrageous these PremierSHIT clowns are paid these offensive amounts for d*cking about and setting a bad example to every so-called 'fan'. Truly pathetic.

Children are dying everyday in this sh*thole of world from lack of basic essentials like clean water and basic medical aid. How the f*ck do these f*cking morons live with themselves?

Annoyingly its the Premier League now not the Premiership.

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by HrC » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:00 pm

I can understand that some League 2 players are paid alot, Especially from the clubs relegated from League 1, but your average League 2 player will only be on about 500-800 a week or so. Considering you can get 250 quid a week from working in a no skilled job, that isnt too bad for being a sporting pro.

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by Drunken_Master » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:00 pm

suzzopher wrote:
bear wrote:
Cropolite wrote:
Drunken_Master wrote:
Cropolite wrote:
Charles Manson wrote:
Jaxley wrote:No, a footballer should not be earning more than people who save lives, just for kicking a ball around a field in a certain way.


It's easier to find people capable of working in the emergency services than it is to find people good enough for premiership football.


That's pretty much a bollocks argument, I'll take someone who can save my life over a footballer any day.


you're not paying the wages though.


I don't care, there are League 2 players earning more than Doctors & Dentists. There's no justice in it.

How long is the average footballers career though? Surely they should be entitled to earn as much as possible while they are playing because their career could be over at 34?


Should have got an education then.


Who's to say, they couldn't get a degree after football? Also, said degree would probably be free for them anyway, as

a) They'd be unemployed
b) The PFA helps footballers with other careers, once the football is over. Not important for Premiership footballers, but there's a couple of tiers below that, where the wages won't be as good.

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by Red Devil » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:01 pm

Cal wrote:I'm with Alan Sugar on this. In his recent profile on BBC2 he was very frank about his attitude to professional footballers: most of them are barely distinguishable from thugs and criminal yobs and almost all are preening prima donnas. In a word: scum. It's outrageous these PremierSHIT clowns are paid these offensive amounts for d*cking about and setting a bad example to every so-called 'fan'. Truly pathetic.

Children are dying everyday in this sh*thole of world from lack of basic essentials like clean water and basic medical aid. How the f*ck do these f*cking morons live with themselves?


Massive generalisations FTW!

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by Red Yoshi » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:02 pm

No, Christiano Ronaldo has an EARRING! Ergo, he must be no good scum.

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by Cardinal Chunder » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:03 pm

bear wrote:
Cropolite wrote:
Drunken_Master wrote:
Cropolite wrote:
Charles Manson wrote:
Jaxley wrote:No, a footballer should not be earning more than people who save lives, just for kicking a ball around a field in a certain way.


It's easier to find people capable of working in the emergency services than it is to find people good enough for premiership football.


That's pretty much a bollocks argument, I'll take someone who can save my life over a footballer any day.


you're not paying the wages though.


I don't care, there are League 2 players earning more than Doctors & Dentists. There's no justice in it.

How long is the average footballers career though? Surely they should be entitled to earn as much as possible while they are playing because their career could be over at 34?


As I said on the first page, they should get a job afterwards. People can work for 50 years and not earn as much as a Premier League player does in their career. The wages in the PL are stupid anyway.

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by Skarjo » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:05 pm

Cal wrote:How the f*ck do these f*cking morons live with themselves?


In a very big house.

I don't get the big deal. They get paid what the market offers. The market judges which players make the most from sponsorship deals, which will attract the most lucrative advertising deals and they then bid to have that played on their team. They bid as high as they reasonably can and they happen to be in an industry where they can offer massive sums. We don't live in a society where your contribution to the greater good is reflected on your payslip, we live in a market and profit driven capitalist society. Don't like it? Start a commune.

I doubt any one of you would, if offered a job that would pay you hundreds of thousands of pounds would say 'What?! God no! £40Ks more than enough for me thanks!'.

If you say you would you're either an idiot or a liar.

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by Psychic » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:08 pm

Cal, you of all people should know how the media works. Just compare the amount of press Gerrard's Southport fiasco got compared to Aston Villa giving their shirt sponsorship to Acorn's free of charge.

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by bear » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:09 pm

suzzopher wrote:Should have got an education then.

Whats to say they haven't?

Barcelona for instance give all the players that are in their academy a very good education so they have something to fall back on if being a footballer doesn't work out for them. Depending on a players background, getting into a clubs Academy could result in them recieving a better education than they ever could have got in the public schools system. It doesn't change the fact that the average footballers career is very short compared to most professions and even though it can be seen as money grabbing by some they have a responsibility to their family to try and make sure they are as well off as possible at the end of their career.

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by Cal » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:13 pm

Skarjo wrote:I doubt any one of you would, if offered a job that would pay you hundreds of thousands of pounds would say 'What?! God no! £40Ks more than enough for me thanks!'.

If you say you would you're either an idiot or a liar.


Doesn't make it any less offensive, though, does it? You honestly think these idiots are worth the money? Really?

I have trouble accepting the ridiculous amounts of money top-dollar flm stars earn, too. Yes, I can appreciate there is considerably more talent involved in acting, but recieving several $million for a few months work (and they might pack in two or three such gigs a year)... F*ck me, they then have the f*cking gall to lecture the rest of us on feeding the world's f*cking poor.

And don't even get me started on that multimillionaire knobend Bono...

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by Eighthours » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:14 pm

Red Yoshi wrote:No, Christiano Ronaldo has an EARRING! Ergo, he must be no good scum.


You make a good point. :D

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by Cuttooth » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:14 pm

Skarjo wrote:I doubt any one of you would, if offered a job that would pay you hundreds of thousands of pounds would say 'What?! God no! £40Ks more than enough for me thanks!'.


Well no of course not, but if anyone were to receive £26 million a year before tax they should give a vast amount of it to charity. I know I would.


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