Is Xbox Arcade failing to deliver on its potential?

I'm confused, are you admitting you're a fanboy or are you calling me one!?

Anyway, lets just keep this on the budget games shall we cos if we argue over which service is ACTUALLY better then its no contest!

Photek wrote:I'm confused, are you admitting you're a fanboy or are you calling me one!?

Anyway, lets just keep this on the budget games shall we cos if we argue over which service is ACTUALLY better then its no contest!

Read what I wrote and you'll understand. Rather than keep it to budget games, people should not keep stating what games are the best like some kind of fact. Its all personal opionion. People should just remember that.

Kiran wrote:

Eighthours wrote:Turning?

You calling me a fanboy?

Yessirree, Bob!

But please, don't let this distract you from the more important "destroy Hugo" argument.

Eighthours wrote:Yessirree, Bob!

But please, don't let this distract you from the more important "destroy Hugo" argument.

But you missed the importance of the "You".

Ok then, whichever service has more games wins...so the Wii can take a bow!

I think you can compare all of both services and XBLA still comes out miles infront.

I don't accept that most people with both a 360 and PS3 would say that GT5P or Warhawk are better than the best XBLA has to offer...notice Suzz didn't mention either of those when he posted the games he thought were better on PSN than the best on XBLA.

HSH28 wrote:

Diceman wrote:However, I would say that maybe the fact I can't find something on Arcade to compare Noby Noby Boy to might damage your 'original games on Arcade' line of arguement. Maybe PS3 is doing more in that respect...

Theres nothing remotely like Braid on PSN either. N+, Castle Crashers, E4, Wik, Catan, Peggle, SWOS...none have PSN analogues.

Oh, come on. I bloody enjoyed Braid, but it's a platformer with some clever time manipulation mechanics. And practically every other game above I can get on another system in some form. Hell, Castle Crashers is a pacey Golden Axe hidden under some nice graphics.
NNB, Flower, Pixeljunk Eden - surley they're examples of foward-thinking originality on a console download service. Software that can offer new experiences to the player, without hurting the wallet. Realising potential - which is what this thread's about, might I remind you. This was potentially a cracking thread for good debate on what Arcade could and should achieve, not an excuse to shout from the rooftops which service and the games on it you love most.

Kiran wrote:

Eighthours wrote:Yessirree, Bob!

But please, don't let this distract you from the more important "destroy Hugo" argument.

But you missed the importance of the "You".

I chose to ignore your delusions, laser-brain.

HSH28 wrote:I think you can compare all of both services and XBLA still comes out miles infront.

Hooray! It's "you think" and not some commandment handed down from God!

HSH28 wrote:I don't accept that most people with both a 360 and PS3 would say that GT5P or Warhawk are better than the best XBLA has to offer...notice Suzz didn't mention either of those when he posted the games he thought were better on PSN than the best on XBLA.

Well, let's see how many people fron here onwards with a 360 and PS3 claim GT5P or Warhawk are not as good as what you claim to be the best XBLA games.....

Eighthours wrote:I chose to ignore your delusions, laser-brain.

Same to you.

.....WITH KNOBS ON!

This is hilarious. "My favourite games are better than your favourite games!". That's basically what's going on here. You guys must have gone 'round in circles at least three times, now. Just agree with him, Kiran. It's the only way he'll shut up.

Diceman wrote:Oh, come on. I bloody enjoyed Braid, but it's a platformer with some clever time manipulation mechanics.

And Gears of War is just a shooter. I fail to see the point. Hell, I fail to see a point.

Edit: Let it be known I'm just participating to spread my signature.

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Diceman wrote:This was potentially a cracking thread for good debate on what Arcade could and should achieve, not an excuse to shout from the rooftops which service and the games on it you love most.

Surely the point is that with Wipeout, Ratchet & Clank, Stardust, Blast Factor etc that PSN is a worthwhile service in its own right and that's all that matters. It also offers different things that wouldn't appear on XBLA like fully featured 3d HD games that could easily be disc retail games.

This thread was pointless from the start as XBLA has a tonne of superb content.

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HSH28 wrote:I think you can compare all of both services and XBLA still comes out miles infront.

Trying to get back on topic that really isn't the point. XBLA could be better than it is and its strength relative to PSN or Wiiware/Virtual Console doesn't really change that.

I agree with Crash, to be quite honest. I was reading an article on arcade gaming in Games TM a while back, and one of the things they were talking about is the evolving definition of the word 'arcade' in terms of its application in videogaming.
I see arcade gaming as easy to pick up, difficult to master sorts of games which can (and will) appeal to a vast array of different audiences. With this in mind, I would say that the use of the word 'Arcade' with regards to the 360 service is certainly apt. You tend to find that a lot of titles released on there seem to be of this nature. If that appeals to you - chasing high scores, and the rest - then great.
The difference with PSN is that a lot of the software is of a different style - sure, it has games like Crash Commando, Savage Moon, Soldner X, Super Rocket Cars whatever, Lumines, Calling All Cars, Super Stardust HD and others which appeal to the 'Arcade'. The advantage PSN has, I think, is in the more thoughtful, original software - Everyday Shooter, flOw, Flower, Noby Noby Boy. It just what an individual prefers, really, but I prefer the latter type, and it's clear to me that the PSN has trumped the 360 in that regard, bar Braid.

Echarin wrote:

Diceman wrote:Oh, come on. I bloody enjoyed Braid, but it's a platformer with some clever time manipulation mechanics.

And Gears of War is just a shooter. I fail to see the point. Hell, I fail to see a point.

Edit: Let it be known I'm just participating to spread my signature.

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In a nutshell:

I said Noby Noby Boy was a very original game available only on PSN. Hugo countered with Braid. I don't feel Braid merits as much praise for forward-thinking, new-ways-to-play originality as NNB, for the above reasons.

That's the point.

And no, I won't help your soul.

Buffalo wrote:I agree with Crash, to be quite honest. I was reading an article on arcade gaming in Games TM a while back, and one of the things they were talking about is the evolving definition of the word 'arcade' in terms of its application in videogaming.
I see arcade gaming as easy to pick up, difficult to master sorts of games which can (and will) appeal to a vast array of different audiences. With this in mind, I would say that the use of the word 'Arcade' with regards to the 360 service is certainly apt. You tend to find that a lot of titles released on there seem to be of this nature. If that appeals to you - chasing high scores, and the rest - then great.
The difference with PSN is that a lot of the software is of a different style - sure, it has games like Crash Commando, Savage Moon, Soldner X, Super Rocket Cars whatever, Lumines, Calling All Cars, Super Stardust HD and others which appeal to the 'Arcade'. The advantage PSN has, I think, is in the more thoughtful, original software - Everyday Shooter, flOw, Flower, Noby Noby Boy. It just what an individual prefers, really, but I prefer the latter type, and it's clear to me that the PSN has trumped the 360 in that regard, bar Braid.

You're wrong.

So both services are good but could be better.

Is that the gist of these six pages?