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<]:^D wrote:thank you GD - interesting that Magill says exactly what i criticised them for - her focusing on the free speech protection rather than whether calls for genocide were permissible

“It’s unbelievable that this needs to be said: Calls for genocide are monstrous and antithetical to everything we represent as a country,” said a White House spokesman, Andrew Bates.

Josh Shapiro, the Democratic governor of Pennsylvania, said he found the responses by Elizabeth Magill, Penn’s president, “unacceptable.”

Even the liberal academic Laurence Tribe found himself agreeing with Representative Elise Stefanik, Republican of New York, who sharply questioned Harvard’s president, Claudine Gay:

“I’m no fan of @RepStefanik but I’m with her here,” the Harvard law professor wrote on the social media site X. “Claudine Gay’s hesitant, formulaic, and bizarrely evasive answers were deeply troubling to me and many of my colleagues, students, and friends.”

“It should not be hard to condemn genocide, genocide against Jews, genocide against anyone else,” Governor Shapiro said on Wednesday in a meeting with reporters. “I’ve said many times, leaders have a responsibility to speak and act with moral clarity, and Liz Magill failed to meet that simple test.”

“There should be no nuance to that — she needed to give a one-word answer,” he added.

By Wednesday afternoon, a petition calling for Ms. Magill’s resignation had grown to more than 3,000 signatures. Marc Rowan, the chief of Apollo Global Management and the board chair at the Wharton School of Business at Penn, asked the board of trustees to rescind their support for Ms. Magill.

“How much damage to our reputation are we willing to accept?” he wrote in a letter to the trustees.

Governor Shapiro, who is a nonvoting member of Penn’s board, urged the trustees to meet soon. University sources, speaking on background, said that efforts were underway to hold a board meeting by phone this week. The university did not respond immediately to a request for comment.

Senator Bob Casey, Democrat of Pennsylvania, did not mince words. “President Magill’s comments yesterday were offensive, but equally offensive was what she didn’t say,” he said in a statement. “The right to free speech is fundamental, but calling for the genocide of Jews is antisemitic and harassment, full stop.”

Senator John Fetterman, a Pennsylvania Democrat, described the testimony as “a significant fail.”
“There is no ‘both sides-ism’ and it isn’t ‘free speech,’ it’s simply hate speech,” he said in a statement. “It was embarrassing for a venerable Pennsylvania university, and it should be reflexive for leaders to condemn antisemitism and stand up for the Jewish community or any community facing this kind of invective.”

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Happy Hanukkah everyone. Even those anti-semitics amongst us.

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Happy Hanukkah everyone. Even those anti-semitics amongst us.

Moggy wrote:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Happy Hanukkah everyone. Even those anti-semitics amongst us.

I'd say you are on shaky ground here as you are somebody who has defended the use of the word "yid" in the recent past.

Knoyleo wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Happy Hanukkah everyone. Even those anti-semitics amongst us.

I'd say you are on shaky ground here as you are somebody who has defended the use of the word "yid" in the recent past.

Wait, what the strawberry float?

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

no need to quote Blue Eyes wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Blue Eyes wrote:Dele Alli is a daft wee banana split isn't he? What was he thinking?

He’s thick as gooseberry fool.

He should get a ban for that. And Tottenham should come out and condemn his silly actions rather than stay silent unlike how they tend to pronounce on Jews how they should feel about their racially dodgy chant.

https://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/up-to-half-of-jewish-spurs-fans-want-to-get-rid-of-yid/

66% of Jewish spurs use the term YID. It’s a complicated matter really. In my experience those offended aren’t actually Jewish.

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

no need to quote Drummy here wrote:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Personally I think Yid does not have as negative a background behind it as the other words mentioned.

With respect, your opinion is irrelevant to a degree. If there's Jews out there that do find it offense, the terms should cease to be used.

That’s a very vague statement. How far do you go with who finds what offensive? We are reaching the point where we soon won’t be able to use many slang words.

I agree my opinion is irrelevant which is why I pointed out that I don’t use the term and don’t think a non Jewish person should. The difficulty here is that a lot of Jewish spurs supporters use it.

Knoyleo wrote:Oof.

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Knoyleo wrote:I just find it odd, is all, nobody comments on any of the other photos with "christian princess" or "atheist princess".

I think it's because we expect Jewish girls to have huge noses, black curly hair and nasally voices. So it's a pleasant surprise when they are attractive.

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:I agree my opinion is irrelevant which is why I pointed out that I don’t use the term and don’t think a non Jewish person should. The difficulty here is that a lot of Jewish spurs supporters use it.

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:I’m a proud member of the Yid Army.

Knoyleo wrote:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:I agree my opinion is irrelevant which is why I pointed out that I don’t use the term and don’t think a non Jewish person should. The difficulty here is that a lot of Jewish spurs supporters use it.

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:I’m a proud member of the Yid Army.

You been on the sauce, RotS?

Rocsteady wrote:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Happy Hanukkah everyone. Even those anti-semitics amongst us.

Heavy 'inbox me hun xx' vibes, just call them out if you think someone here is am antisemite.

Moggy wrote:

Knoyleo wrote:Oof.

To be fair, the Tottenham thing was mild compared to this:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Knoyleo wrote:I just find it odd, is all, nobody comments on any of the other photos with "christian princess" or "atheist princess".

I think it's because we expect Jewish girls to have huge noses, black curly hair and nasally voices. So it's a pleasant surprise when they are attractive.

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Knoyleo wrote:Oof.

To be fair, the Tottenham thing was mild compared to this:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Knoyleo wrote:I just find it odd, is all, nobody comments on any of the other photos with "christian princess" or "atheist princess".

I think it's because we expect Jewish girls to have huge noses, black curly hair and nasally voices. So it's a pleasant surprise when they are attractive.

I mean that was sarcasm. Which is my main humour but I appreciate its very difficult to read and understand in word form.

Moggy wrote:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Knoyleo wrote:Oof.

To be fair, the Tottenham thing was mild compared to this:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Knoyleo wrote:I just find it odd, is all, nobody comments on any of the other photos with "christian princess" or "atheist princess".

I think it's because we expect Jewish girls to have huge noses, black curly hair and nasally voices. So it's a pleasant surprise when they are attractive.

I mean that was sarcasm. Which is my main humour but I appreciate its very difficult to read and understand in word form.

Of course it was.

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Knoyleo wrote:Oof.

To be fair, the Tottenham thing was mild compared to this:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Knoyleo wrote:I just find it odd, is all, nobody comments on any of the other photos with "christian princess" or "atheist princess".

I think it's because we expect Jewish girls to have huge noses, black curly hair and nasally voices. So it's a pleasant surprise when they are attractive.

I mean that was sarcasm. Which is my main humour but I appreciate its very difficult to read and understand in word form.

Of course it was.

Well I'm glad you understand then.

Moggy wrote:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Knoyleo wrote:Oof.

To be fair, the Tottenham thing was mild compared to this:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Knoyleo wrote:I just find it odd, is all, nobody comments on any of the other photos with "christian princess" or "atheist princess".

I think it's because we expect Jewish girls to have huge noses, black curly hair and nasally voices. So it's a pleasant surprise when they are attractive.

I mean that was sarcasm. Which is my main humour but I appreciate its very difficult to read and understand in word form.

Of course it was.

Well I'm glad you understand then.

Oops. Looks like you failed to understand my sarcasm.