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PostLaptop/PC security setup
by Return_of_the_STAR » Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:54 pm

What’s everyone’s current security setup on their laptops or PCs? I have kaspersky which is due to run out soon so I was wondering whether I should just go for a free set up like Avast or maybe stick with windows defender. I don’t seem to use any of the extra stuff that you get with a paid kaspersky set up.

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PostRe: Laptop/PC security setup
by lex-man » Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:57 pm

Just keep my machine up to date and use security essentials. Also have ad block on Chrome.

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PostRe: Laptop/PC security setup
by Earfolds » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:01 am

If you use Windows 7 or above, I can personally vouch for Windows Defender. There isn't a massive reason to use third-party antivirus these days, and they often only really provide CPU usage and bloat.

I will also add that most security professionals recommend sticking with Windows Defender these days, too.

My personal security setup is that I run Linux, and have done since 2001.

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PostRe: Laptop/PC security setup
by Errkal » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:22 pm

Security Essentials if on Windows 7, build in AV if on Windows 10.

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PostRe: Laptop/PC security setup
by OrangeRKN » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:40 pm

Adblock plus and noscript in browser, then you're already halfway there.

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PostRe: Laptop/PC security setup
by Vermilion » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:26 pm

I have Norton, used it since i got this PC and i've found it to be excellent.

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PostRe: Laptop/PC security setup
by OrangeRKN » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:30 pm

Vermilion wrote:I have Norton, used it since i got this PC and i've found it to be excellent.


inb4 you get slated for this

Norton is notoriously resource heavy and very intrusive

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PostRe: Laptop/PC security setup
by Vermilion » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:33 pm

OrangeRakoon wrote:
Vermilion wrote:I have Norton, used it since i got this PC and i've found it to be excellent.


inb4 you get slated for this

Norton is notoriously resource heavy and very intrusive


Fair enough, but i've had it since 2012, and never had any issues with it.

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PostRe: Laptop/PC security setup
by Earfolds » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:56 pm

I think that Norton is resource heavy and very intrusive.

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PostRe: Laptop/PC security setup
by Rax » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:00 pm

Never pay for anti virus software.

I used to work for an anti virus company and I repeat, never pay for anti virus software.

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PostRe: Laptop/PC security setup
by lex-man » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:24 pm

Rax wrote:Never pay for anti virus software.

I used to work for an anti virus company and I repeat, never pay for anti virus software.


I kind of agree, but could you expand on your reasons?

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PostRe: Laptop/PC security setup
by Return_of_the_STAR » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:30 pm

lex-man wrote:
Rax wrote:Never pay for anti virus software.

I used to work for an anti virus company and I repeat, never pay for anti virus software.


I kind of agree, but could you expand on your reasons?


Yeah I would like to hear as to why. Is it because all the stuff you pay for isn't necessary, yet the stuff you can get for free is what you need? In the sense that the paid for version just includes the free stuff and bits you don't need.

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PostRe: Laptop/PC security setup
by Errkal » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:32 pm

Sophos do a very good free edition, it would be good for peeps with family and junk as the management of the device, web site access etc. is all controlled from the web portal so kids can't get round it and stuff if you dont want them to.

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PostRe: Laptop/PC security setup
by Rax » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:42 pm

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
lex-man wrote:
Rax wrote:Never pay for anti virus software.

I used to work for an anti virus company and I repeat, never pay for anti virus software.


I kind of agree, but could you expand on your reasons?


Yeah I would like to hear as to why. Is it because all the stuff you pay for isn't necessary, yet the stuff you can get for free is what you need? In the sense that the paid for version just includes the free stuff and bits you don't need.

Basically yeah, the free stuff out there is all you need, the paid versions dont add anything of use.

An anti virus can only stop a known threat from infecting your system, by paying for anti virus you are basically paying to get these updated classifications and detections so you can stay protected from the bad stuff out there. The free software, Windows Defender etc give you these updates for free. There is some differences between them in terms of who detects what and what they do with them but the paid versions are not really any better at detecting and acting on threats than the free stuff, some might be better against virus A but they might not be so good at spotting virus B. Neither option can help you if its a brand new threat, if they havent had a chance to analyse and categorise it then youre stuck no matter what so the best anti virus is the bit between the keyboard and the monitor. If you stay away from dodgy sites and activities thats 99% of the battle, the anti virus just gives you a little safety net if you need it.

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PostRe: Laptop/PC security setup
by Green Gecko » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:55 am

Earfolds wrote:I think that Norton is resource heavy and very intrusive.

Iirc norton got their gooseberry fool together a while ago and is now fine

I've used pretty much them all. What Rax says is true.

At the moment I'd just use msse or window defender, it's very transparent. If for some reason that doesn't cut it then avg free or maybe try avast again as I find avg a bit complicated and garish. Panda antivirus was pretty good but it expired from a bundle.

Kapersky and bulldog are all meant to be good AVs that don't tank your system. I've used f secure as well.

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PostRe: Laptop/PC security setup
by Meep » Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:39 pm

Avira free edition, which has proved pretty reliable and not heavy on resources but has the downside of occasionally popping up an ad every few days begging you to buy the full version or some other product they make. I suppose I can tolerate that given that it is free. In fact I would probably prevent it from doing that by editing a few files but I can't be bothered.

I also use Dashlane for password managing, although I have been thinking of moving over to over to Bitwarden once my current subscription runs out as it is a bit steep.

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PostRe: Laptop/PC security setup
by Errkal » Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:48 pm

Meep wrote:Avira free edition, which has proved pretty reliable and not heavy on resources but has the downside of occasionally popping up an ad every few days begging you to buy the full version or some other product they make. I suppose I can tolerate that given that it is free. In fact I would probably prevent it from doing that by editing a few files but I can't be bothered.

I also use Dashlane for password managing, although I have been thinking of moving over to over to Bitwarden once my current subscription runs out as it is a bit steep.


I tried bitwarden and the android fill service was a pain in the arse. I use LastPass and it is by far the best for me.

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PostRe: Laptop/PC security setup
by Meep » Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:56 pm

Another reason I was considering Bitwarden is that is open source, which means I am naturally more inclined to trust the software rather than the proprietary methods used by Dashlane and LastPass. I know that's a bit paranoid but anyone who reads the news these days can't help but be paranoid where data is concerned.

I mean, obviously they can't sell on passwords and it would be dumb to think they would but the data about what sites I use and what accounts I hold would be pretty valuable.

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PostRe: Laptop/PC security setup
by satriales » Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:03 pm

OrangeRakoon wrote:Adblock plus and noscript in browser, then you're already halfway there.

I think Ublock Origin is usually recommended instead of AdBlock Plus these days. AdBlock used to whitelist ads if the advertiser paid them money, but not sure if that still goes on.

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PostRe: Laptop/PC security setup
by Kezzer » Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:57 pm

Windows defender and ublock for chrome.

All sat behind a Meraki security device with IDS/IPS and AMP

A couple of layer 7 rules and all IoT devices are VLAN'd out so they can't talk to the 'core' network

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