Las Vegas Shooting. 59 dead. Over 515 Injured.

Moggy wrote:Anybody that suggest Sandy Hook was a hoax is a banana split of the highest order. Evil bastards.

http://www.cracked.com/personal-experie ... lying.html

Corazon de Leon wrote:

Moggy wrote:Anybody that suggest Sandy Hook was a hoax is a banana split of the highest order. Evil bastards.

http://www.cracked.com/personal-experie ... lying.html

I went out with a girl last year for a few months who was certain Sandy Hook didn't happen. Batshit.

Knoyleo wrote:

Corazon de Leon wrote:

Moggy wrote:Anybody that suggest Sandy Hook was a hoax is a banana split of the highest order. Evil bastards.

http://www.cracked.com/personal-experie ... lying.html

I went out with a girl last year for a few months who was certain Sandy Hook didn't happen. Batshit.

Please tell me you chucked her when you found out.

Moggy wrote:

Knoyleo wrote:

Corazon de Leon wrote:

Moggy wrote:Anybody that suggest Sandy Hook was a hoax is a banana split of the highest order. Evil bastards.

http://www.cracked.com/personal-experie ... lying.html

I went out with a girl last year for a few months who was certain Sandy Hook didn't happen. Batshit.

Please tell me you chucked her when you found out.

Of course he didn’t. He told her that chemtrails are real, vaccines cause autism and Bin Laden was Obama’s dad. Then he spent a night making sweet conspiracy love.

Mafro wrote::? I really don't understand why some people think stuff like that never happened

Mafro wrote::? I really don't understand why some people think stuff like that never happened

Irene Demova wrote:

Mafro wrote::? I really don't understand why some people think stuff like that never happened

The psychology of it is that most of them are pretty powerless and desperate within their own lives, believing in a conspiracy lets you feel like you've got something over on the establishment that is making your life gooseberry fool. There's a great article on it somewhere I'll dig up

Memento Mori wrote:

Irene Demova wrote:

Mafro wrote::? I really don't understand why some people think stuff like that never happened

The psychology of it is that most of them are pretty powerless and desperate within their own lives, believing in a conspiracy lets you feel like you've got something over on the establishment that is making your life gooseberry fool. There's a great article on it somewhere I'll dig up

Was it by David Aaronovitch? He wrote a book about conspiracy theories a few years back.

Memento Mori wrote:

Irene Demova wrote:

Mafro wrote::? I really don't understand why some people think stuff like that never happened

The psychology of it is that most of them are pretty powerless and desperate within their own lives, believing in a conspiracy lets you feel like you've got something over on the establishment that is making your life gooseberry fool. There's a great article on it somewhere I'll dig up

Was it by David Aaronovitch? He wrote a book about conspiracy theories a few years back.

To her, the president seemed so far away, so oblivious to the decay she saw around her that when Donald Trump began suggesting that Obama was not American, it made sense. When Trump and others suggested that Obama was Muslim, to Melanie it seemed plausible. And when Obama started talking about, of all things, gay marriage and letting transgender people into bathrooms, it all came together: The president of the United States was a gay Muslim from Kenya working to undermine America.

The worst mass shooting was "The Wounded Knee Massacre" In which the US government killed 250 to 300 Indians a lot of which were women and children, thus proving that if bureaucrats decide something is worth it, they will do it. At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy nut, This reinforces my want and need for the civilian population to have weapons so that we as a nation, can prevent the trampling of the rights we were given at birth, or even the direction we are takeing as a nation. Unfortunately it looks like we don't have just the government to worry about, but also a portion of the civilian populace that want to restrict our rights (any of them) as well as them wanting the country to go in a direction a lot feel it shouldnt.

Rightey wrote:Something from another forum that describes how these pro gun people think...

The worst mass shooting was "The Wounded Knee Massacre" In which the US government killed 250 to 300 Indians a lot of which were women and children, thus proving that if bureaucrats decide something is worth it, they will do it. At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy nut, This reinforces my want and need for the civilian population to have weapons so that we as a nation, can prevent the trampling of the rights we were given at birth, or even the direction we are takeing as a nation. Unfortunately it looks like we don't have just the government to worry about, but also a portion of the civilian populace that want to restrict our rights (any of them) as well as them wanting the country to go in a direction a lot feel it shouldnt.

Basically these shootings are just the price of freedom in their minds, so really until they are killed it doesn't matter how many people get murdered.

I do think the US genuinely has a different attitude towards the law and how acceptable it is to take it into your own hands than most of the world, and I think that mentality combined with the terrible health services probably leads to a lot of these shootings, more so than just lots of guns.

Hime wrote:It's the talk of restricting rights and second amendment stuff I find most baffling. Mainly the idea that a set of laws written 200 years ago is still applicable today and are "birth rights". Also, the country doesn't seem too worried about overlooking some of the other amendments when it suits.

Hime wrote:

Rightey wrote:Something from another forum that describes how these pro gun people think...

The worst mass shooting was "The Wounded Knee Massacre" In which the US government killed 250 to 300 Indians a lot of which were women and children, thus proving that if bureaucrats decide something is worth it, they will do it. At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy nut, This reinforces my want and need for the civilian population to have weapons so that we as a nation, can prevent the trampling of the rights we were given at birth, or even the direction we are takeing as a nation. Unfortunately it looks like we don't have just the government to worry about, but also a portion of the civilian populace that want to restrict our rights (any of them) as well as them wanting the country to go in a direction a lot feel it shouldnt.

Basically these shootings are just the price of freedom in their minds, so really until they are killed it doesn't matter how many people get murdered.

I do think the US genuinely has a different attitude towards the law and how acceptable it is to take it into your own hands than most of the world, and I think that mentality combined with the terrible health services probably leads to a lot of these shootings, more so than just lots of guns.

It's the talk of restricting rights and second amendment stuff I find most baffling. Mainly the idea that a set of laws written 200 years ago is still applicable today and are "birth rights". Also, the country doesn't seem too worried about overlooking some of the other amendments when it suits.

captain red dog wrote:

Hime wrote:

Rightey wrote:Something from another forum that describes how these pro gun people think...

The worst mass shooting was "The Wounded Knee Massacre" In which the US government killed 250 to 300 Indians a lot of which were women and children, thus proving that if bureaucrats decide something is worth it, they will do it. At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy nut, This reinforces my want and need for the civilian population to have weapons so that we as a nation, can prevent the trampling of the rights we were given at birth, or even the direction we are takeing as a nation. Unfortunately it looks like we don't have just the government to worry about, but also a portion of the civilian populace that want to restrict our rights (any of them) as well as them wanting the country to go in a direction a lot feel it shouldnt.

Basically these shootings are just the price of freedom in their minds, so really until they are killed it doesn't matter how many people get murdered.

I do think the US genuinely has a different attitude towards the law and how acceptable it is to take it into your own hands than most of the world, and I think that mentality combined with the terrible health services probably leads to a lot of these shootings, more so than just lots of guns.

It's the talk of restricting rights and second amendment stuff I find most baffling. Mainly the idea that a set of laws written 200 years ago is still applicable today and are "birth rights". Also, the country doesn't seem too worried about overlooking some of the other amendments when it suits.

If they had the birth right to gooseberry fool in the streets I honestly think they would be going about it proudly. It's incredible that the right to own guns is in there but not the right to affordable healthcare. It's such a messed up country and I think the only way for real change is for blue states to secede.