Las Vegas Shooting. 59 dead. Over 515 Injured.

Knoyleo wrote:

KK wrote:

Photek wrote:Fox News contorting and referencing ISIS is slightly amusing.

I don't know what it is Fox News are saying but there is no difference really between the two outside of ideology. The outcome is identical. The guy may as well have been singing Jesus Christ Superstar out the window.

Between the two what? ISIS and Fox News?

An Islamic terrorist and this 64 year old bloke.

Squinty wrote:

Blue Eyes wrote:

twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/914810093874671617

A typically tone-deaf tweet that sums up what a complete and utter spastic banana split this man is.

As president your first thing to do would be to offer reassurance. This does not seem to do that at all.

Exclamation marks show up so frequently on Twitter when people are eulogising and it baffles me. What a bunch of strawberry floating idiots.

Blue Eyes wrote:

Squinty wrote:

Blue Eyes wrote:

twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/914810093874671617

A typically tone-deaf tweet that sums up what a complete and utter spastic banana split this man is.

As president your first thing to do would be to offer reassurance. This does not seem to do that at all.

Exclamation marks show up so frequently on Twitter when people are eulogising and it baffles me. What a bunch of strawberry floating idiots.

God Bless You!

*goes back to trying to score a hole in one*

It still amazes me that this man is the President of America. And he frequently uses Twitter.

Guardian wrote:Paddock, 64, was a resident of Mesquite, Nevada, a retirement and golf community of about 20,000 people, a police spokesman confirmed.

“We don’t have a lot on Mr Paddock,” Mesquite police spokesman Quinn Averett said.

Mesquite PD records held no report of any contact with Paddock, Averett said. No calls for service, no arrests, not even a record of a traffic stop.

The most law abiding gun owner you could possibly hope for.

strawberry floating horrendous. A shame that the only outcome will be the voices of people championing gun ownership.

Just imagine having the power to put a stop to these tragedys happening so frequently but choosing to do nothing.

Did he have a permit?

I just saw 406 hospitalised. strawberry float knows where the death rate is going to stop at.

Those figures are absolutely insane. How many rounds would he have had to fire to kill and injure at that scale?

From the video I saw on the news it sounded like a proper belt-fed machine gun, as opposed to an assault rifle. Or maybe it was an assault rifle with a drum barrel. I base that assumption on my years of real life experience shooting guns in videogames.

Preezy wrote:From the video I saw on the news it sounded like a proper belt-fed machine gun, as opposed to an assault rifle. Or maybe it was an assault rifle with a drum barrel. I base that assumption on my years of real life experience shooting guns in videogames.

I think you're right, it must have been belt fed.

As has been pointed out before in this topic crazily huge guns are almost common in the US as they see them as tools or toys.
You can see people firing off vast quantities of ammo from military grade weapons as a kind of entertainment with what seems zero thought that that same weapon could at any instant cause vast destruction. You can also see it in Trumps claim that NFL is now for wimps because they're starting to realise that having players kill themselves with brain tumours due to the huge hits they take is maybe less than advisable.

US culture is so unsympathetic it's amazing.

Getting a big gun in Vegas wouldn't be that hard. There are loads of gun ranges that have military grade weapons that people can shoot.

Absolutely horrific, disgustingly it was entirely inevitable. Now we just wait for this death toll to be inevitably broken by the next mass shooter. Nothing will change.

If Sandy Hook isn't enough to change minds then this won't be either.

It seems crazy to me that they let the ban on assault weapons expire in 2004. They're all so panicked by Muslim terrorist immigrants over in the US but far more people are being shot and killed by their fellow Americans - it's insane.

They've cleared the woman (Marilou Danley); she wasn't even in Vegas let alone the United States at the time - the gunman presumably using her identification documents.

That still leaves the unanswered question of the woman who shouted they were all going to die because 'they're everywhere' almost an hour earlier - though I suppose as a morbid coincidence it could have just been an alcoholic or something.

KK wrote:They've cleared the woman (Marilou Danley); she wasn't even in Vegas let alone the United States at the time - the gunman presumably using her identification documents.

That still leaves the unanswered question of the woman who shouted they were all going to die because 'they're everywhere' almost an hour earlier - though I suppose as a morbid coincidence it could have just been an alcoholic or something.

Simple explanation I think. The Shooter had a really high vantage point so could pick targets across a very wide area. Anyone on the ground in the confusion could reasonably think shooters were everywhere.

Garth wrote:It seems crazy to me that they let the ban on assault weapons expire in 2004. They're all so panicked by Muslim terrorist immigrants over in the US but far more people are being shot and killed by their fellow Americans - it's insane.

If this ends up being a politically motivated attack, it'll be maddening if it's not reported as terrorism...and sadly not that surprising.

It's got me looking into the frequency of gun attacks there...harrowing reading

Came across this:

Just by comparison I looked at the wiki for the Vietnam war and the worst year for casualties was 72 with 40,000 dead. The first 5 years of the war didn't see as many deaths per year as they have now to just gun deaths in the US and that's with 4 months remaining.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties

Incredible.

captain red dog wrote:

KK wrote:They've cleared the woman (Marilou Danley); she wasn't even in Vegas let alone the United States at the time - the gunman presumably using her identification documents.

That still leaves the unanswered question of the woman who shouted they were all going to die because 'they're everywhere' almost an hour earlier - though I suppose as a morbid coincidence it could have just been an alcoholic or something.

Simple explanation I think. The Shooter had a really high vantage point so could pick targets across a very wide area. Anyone on the ground in the confusion could reasonably think shooters were everywhere.

You've missed a trick.

There's reports of a woman telling the crowd (in a threatening manner) earlier in the day they were going to die

Not during the attack.

Hexx wrote:

captain red dog wrote:

KK wrote:They've cleared the woman (Marilou Danley); she wasn't even in Vegas let alone the United States at the time - the gunman presumably using her identification documents.

That still leaves the unanswered question of the woman who shouted they were all going to die because 'they're everywhere' almost an hour earlier - though I suppose as a morbid coincidence it could have just been an alcoholic or something.

Simple explanation I think. The Shooter had a really high vantage point so could pick targets across a very wide area. Anyone on the ground in the confusion could reasonably think shooters were everywhere.

You've missed a trick.

There's reports of a woman telling the crowd (in a threatening manner) earlier in the day they were going to die

Not during the attack.

I'd take those reports with a pinch of salt, in the mass confusion things will easily get confused, misreported and taken out of context. All will become clear over the coming days I guess, as we all go through the motions yet again.