Last film you watched and your rating: The Directors Cut

7256930752

Tafdolphin wrote:
SMPL wrote:Star Wars: The Last Jedi - 4

Often looked pretty and had one decent fight scene, but apart from that very hard viewing. Bad script, poor acting across the board, the plot's a shambles and I'm shocked at how sloppily they handled such a loved franchise. Easily the worst Star Wars for me, and just a bad film in general.

It's bizarre how much this film divides people.

We watched it again recently, my third in total and the first on a small screen, and it still blew me away. It's the first Star Wars in a generation that's actually trying to say something, and it uses every cinematic technique it can to ram this message home. From having the characters literally shout it, to the way the story goes to new and interesting places, metaphorically and literally, it's one giant middle finger to the Force Awakens' complete paranoia of doing anything new with the franchise. It's easily my second favourite SW behind ESB.

Also, Ren is a better villain than Vader. I mean, obviously.

What does it do or say other than "lol, Star Wars fans"? The thing about Rey's parents is kind of interesting I guess. There are three scenes that are as bad as anything from the prequels and most of the story is inconsequential. There are some cool scenes that I'm looking forward to seeing again but the bad bits are really, really bad.

A Quiet Place.

Like holy strawberry float go see this movie. If I'd have had a coal buttplug I would have gooseberry fool a diamond.

Been thinking about that film ever since I saw it and I think I have to go and watch it again :datass:

.

Hime wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:
SMPL wrote:Star Wars: The Last Jedi - 4

Often looked pretty and had one decent fight scene, but apart from that very hard viewing. Bad script, poor acting across the board, the plot's a shambles and I'm shocked at how sloppily they handled such a loved franchise. Easily the worst Star Wars for me, and just a bad film in general.

It's bizarre how much this film divides people.

We watched it again recently, my third in total and the first on a small screen, and it still blew me away. It's the first Star Wars in a generation that's actually trying to say something, and it uses every cinematic technique it can to ram this message home. From having the characters literally shout it, to the way the story goes to new and interesting places, metaphorically and literally, it's one giant middle finger to the Force Awakens' complete paranoia of doing anything new with the franchise. It's easily my second favourite SW behind ESB.

Also, Ren is a better villain than Vader. I mean, obviously.

What does it do or say other than "lol, Star Wars fans"? The thing about Rey's parents is kind of interesting I guess. There are three scenes that are as bad as anything from the prequels and most of the story is inconsequential. There are some cool scenes that I'm looking forward to seeing again but the bad bits are really, really bad.

I disagree, but then I'm going to aren't I?

For me TLJ was about change and the fear of change, it was about the banality of black vs white morality and it was the tearing down of tradition and the staleness that comes from unchecked conformity. It was about risk, both in the continuity of the films and in the meta-narrative of making Star Wars fresh. It was about a lot of things.

Which three scenes btw? I genuinely can't think of three scenes that were bad at all. Let me guess though: Casino scene 1, 2 and 3?

Luke milking alien titties is probably one scene at a guess

7256930752

Tafdolphin wrote:
Hime wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:
SMPL wrote:Star Wars: The Last Jedi - 4

Often looked pretty and had one decent fight scene, but apart from that very hard viewing. Bad script, poor acting across the board, the plot's a shambles and I'm shocked at how sloppily they handled such a loved franchise. Easily the worst Star Wars for me, and just a bad film in general.

It's bizarre how much this film divides people.

We watched it again recently, my third in total and the first on a small screen, and it still blew me away. It's the first Star Wars in a generation that's actually trying to say something, and it uses every cinematic technique it can to ram this message home. From having the characters literally shout it, to the way the story goes to new and interesting places, metaphorically and literally, it's one giant middle finger to the Force Awakens' complete paranoia of doing anything new with the franchise. It's easily my second favourite SW behind ESB.

Also, Ren is a better villain than Vader. I mean, obviously.

What does it do or say other than "lol, Star Wars fans"? The thing about Rey's parents is kind of interesting I guess. There are three scenes that are as bad as anything from the prequels and most of the story is inconsequential. There are some cool scenes that I'm looking forward to seeing again but the bad bits are really, really bad.

I disagree, but then I'm going to aren't I?

For me TLJ was about change and the fear of change, it was about the banality of black vs white morality and it was the tearing down of tradition and the staleness that comes from unchecked conformity. It was about risk, both in the continuity of the films and in the meta-narrative of making Star Wars fresh. It was about a lot of things.

Which three scenes btw? I genuinely can't think of three scenes that were bad at all. Let me guess though: Casino scene 1, 2 and 3?

I agree with you that they did those things, I just don't think any of them were worthwhile. I mean sure, they made Luke throw away the light sabre to throw an instant curve ball but for what? I have to assume that the character being massively contradictory to the Luke of previous films wasn't entirely deliberate. A lot of it felt like change for no reason other than to piss on the cornflakes of Star Wars fans and impress the critics.

The three scenes are:

-Opening scene with Po and Hux
-Leah flying
-Luke 'training' "reach out" scene.

Not just poorly written but all genuinely cringe worthy.

Tafdolphin wrote:For me TLJ was about change and the fear of change, it was about the banality of black vs white morality and it was the tearing down of tradition and the staleness that comes from unchecked conformity. It was about risk, both in the continuity of the films and in the meta-narrative of making Star Wars fresh. It was about a lot of things.

It did do all these things and I appreciated all of them, especially the grey morality of the film, but none of those themes nor the striking visuals of the salt planet can save the inconsistent swiss cheese plot and excruciatingly long run time.

I liked the Hux scene, thought the Leia scene could have been visualised better but was perfectly fitting and thought the Reach Out scene was funny.

But.

I can see why people wouldn't. Because they're different. Which is the film's point. But still.

I'd use the word gooseberry fool more than different, but hey. different will do.

7256930752

Tafdolphin wrote:I liked the Hux scene, thought the Leia scene could have been visualised better but was perfectly fitting and thought the Reach Out scene was funny.

But.

I can see why people wouldn't. Because they're different. Which is the film's point. But still.

But them being different isn't what I didn't like, there are plenty of humerus scenes in Star Wars. I just didn't think these were very good.

There is more than just though, for instance I didn't buy the whole Luke standing over Kylo light sabre in hand stuff at all.

I actually thought the reach out scene was funny.

The opening scene with Hux is diabolical. I was late walking into the cinema when I first saw it and I honestly thought it was one of those 'don't use your phone while the film is on' ads. Then there was a mum joke and I started to get seriously worried.

Hime wrote:I didn't buy the whole Luke standing over Kylo light sabre in hand stuff at all.

It's explained like three times from various different angles, though. Maybe what actually happened was different to their accounts again. It's literally a sci-fi version of the "would you kill young Hitler?" discussion. I don't see why it's so out-of-character for Luke to consider it.

Also I don't understand why people have issue with the "reach out" scene :lol:

Good grief. Rey has no real knowledge of the force other than whispers and a brief attempt at a jedi mind trick, so yeah, she'd take "reach out" literally.

RIPD

6/10

Not the disaster it had been made out to be, and was kinda likeable in a discount men in black sorta way.

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:The opening scene with Hux is diabolical. I was late walking into the cinema when I first saw it and I honestly thought it was one of those 'don't use your phone while the film is on' ads.

That is a perfect way to describe it.

Call it 'different' all you want, it's still an average film. I'm fine with them passing the torch to new characters and story lines, but when you completely cock up the tone and themes from start to finish why even make it a Star Wars film?

smurphy wrote:
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:The opening scene with Hux is diabolical. I was late walking into the cinema when I first saw it and I honestly thought it was one of those 'don't use your phone while the film is on' ads.

That is a perfect way to describe it.

Call it 'different' all you want, it's still an average film. I'm fine with them passing the torch to new characters and story lines, but when you completely cock up the tone and themes from start to finish why even make it a Star Wars film?

I will call it different thank you, and also a great film. Because it is!

ESB>TLJ>ANH>TFA>ROTJ>ROTS>>>>>>>>>>>>TPM>x infinity >AoTC

7256930752

Tafdolphin wrote:
smurphy wrote:
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:The opening scene with Hux is diabolical. I was late walking into the cinema when I first saw it and I honestly thought it was one of those 'don't use your phone while the film is on' ads.

That is a perfect way to describe it.

Call it 'different' all you want, it's still an average film. I'm fine with them passing the torch to new characters and story lines, but when you completely cock up the tone and themes from start to finish why even make it a Star Wars film?

I will call it different thank you, and also a great film. Because it is!

ESB>TLJ>ANH>TFA>ROTJ>ROTS>>>>>>>>>>>>TPM>x infinity >AoTC

Here's another scene for you, BB8 in the AT-ST. Up there with the factory scene in AOTC.

attack of the clones is the best one though

SugarDave wrote:attack of the clones is the best one though

Gemini73

Haven't see TLJ yet, and I'm in no rush to. TFA wasn't too bad, but not something that I'd want to watch it time and again, (I've seen it twice in all. Once at the cinema with my dad, then again at home with my children). It was certainly not a patch on the original three movies so yeah, TFA isn't something I'd be bothered to watch again. Actually, I thought Rogue One was a better SW movie than TFA. (I do think Kylo has a cool light sabre, though. Love how it sounds incomplete, broken even. Bit like the character, was that the point? Christ knows, it's just cool).

Gemini73 · Last edited by Gemini73 on Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Hime wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:
smurphy wrote:
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:The opening scene with Hux is diabolical. I was late walking into the cinema when I first saw it and I honestly thought it was one of those 'don't use your phone while the film is on' ads.

That is a perfect way to describe it.

Call it 'different' all you want, it's still an average film. I'm fine with them passing the torch to new characters and story lines, but when you completely cock up the tone and themes from start to finish why even make it a Star Wars film?

I will call it different thank you, and also a great film. Because it is!

ESB>TLJ>ANH>TFA>ROTJ>ROTS>>>>>>>>>>>>TPM>x infinity >AoTC

Here's another scene for you, BB8 in the AT-ST. Up there with the factory scene in AOTC.

AOTC clones isn't just by far and away the worst Star Wars movie, it's one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Utterly dreadful from beginging to end.

Last film you watched and your rating: The Directors Cut

Who is online

Affiliates