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Corazon de Leon wrote:

Moggy wrote:

OrangeRakoon wrote:

Corazon de Leon wrote:Scott Pilgrim is quite vile in places. Baby Driver is great though.

Vile?

He hits people.

I'm not one to get up in arms about films and their depictions of things as I get that it's all escapism but I find the Scott Pilgrim character abhorrent. It's a whiny film about a whiny man who never *really* takes any responsibility for his stupid, hurtful actions. He cheats on two people and at the end of it not only does he get the girl he was after, but the other one almost seems to act like it's her fault this happened in the first place. There are no consequences to what he does. In fact, the thing he is supposed to learn is self respect, which is great except he hasn't shown any respect to any other character throughout the film. Perhaps that's the point, I dunno, but it isn't portrayed well in the film at all. Even after he learns his life lesson, he is still a bit of a tool.

Neither of the two leads hold a convincing romance and the whole film just has a nasty vibe to it on repeat viewings IMO. The only thing it really has going for it is Knives, who is the only character to actually have a story arc and character growth. Also the Chris Evans cameo.

OrangeRakoon wrote:Scott is a whiny child, but it's a comedy film and it's funny. I don't think you're primarily supposed to come out of it with a life lesson.

Although Scott does have a character arc and change for the better by the end of the film. He apologises to Kim, Neil replaces him in the band, and he is finally honest about cheating and apologises to both Ramona and Knives for it, so I think he does take responsibility by the end. He literally loses and gets killed when still fighting to "win" Ramona, and his questionable behaviour gets called out throughout the film, so I don't think the film is trying to normalise or glorify his behaviour.

Preezy wrote:

Corazon de Leon wrote:

Preezy wrote:

Tafdolphin wrote:(although if I had to chose I'd go for FR over Dredd due to the former's overall design and its hint towards interesting politics)

The politics in Dredd are also incredibly interesting. He's a hero and the good guy, but also a massive fascist operating in a police state.

I actually find Dredd's politics way more interesting than Mad Max's. The fascist element of the character's design creates a lot of potential for great stories.

I agree but I didn't want Taf to label me a sexist

Corazon de Leon wrote:

OrangeRakoon wrote:Scott is a whiny child, but it's a comedy film and it's funny. I don't think you're primarily supposed to come out of it with a life lesson.

Although Scott does have a character arc and change for the better by the end of the film. He apologises to Kim, Neil replaces him in the band, and he is finally honest about cheating and apologises to both Ramona and Knives for it, so I think he does take responsibility by the end. He literally loses and gets killed when still fighting to "win" Ramona, and his questionable behaviour gets called out throughout the film, so I don't think the film is trying to normalise or glorify his behaviour.

And yet somehow it manages to, by having there be no consequences for his actions. It’s alright to mess with people’s heads and their lives, to think only of yourself and generally be an arrogant, pig headed person as long as you apologise after you’ve done it. You’ll still get what you want.

Again, I don’t normally get offended by films and their depictions of this, that and the other but SP *really* got up my nose. I think Moggy’s pointed out the real reason why actually - this skinny, whiny little guy manages to single handedly take out Captain America and Superman during the movie.

Completely off topic - while looking up the cast list of this film I found out that Jason Schwartzman’s Mum is Talia Shire. ADRIAAAAAN

Corazon de Leon wrote:And yet somehow it manages to, by having there be no consequences for his actions. It’s alright to mess with people’s heads and their lives, to think only of yourself and generally be an arrogant, pig headed person as long as you apologise after you’ve done it. You’ll still get what you want.

Corazon de Leon wrote:I think Moggy’s pointed out the real reason why actually - this skinny, whiny little guy manages to single handedly take out Captain America and Superman during the movie.

Moggy wrote:

Corazon de Leon wrote:

OrangeRakoon wrote:Scott is a whiny child, but it's a comedy film and it's funny. I don't think you're primarily supposed to come out of it with a life lesson.

Although Scott does have a character arc and change for the better by the end of the film. He apologises to Kim, Neil replaces him in the band, and he is finally honest about cheating and apologises to both Ramona and Knives for it, so I think he does take responsibility by the end. He literally loses and gets killed when still fighting to "win" Ramona, and his questionable behaviour gets called out throughout the film, so I don't think the film is trying to normalise or glorify his behaviour.

And yet somehow it manages to, by having there be no consequences for his actions. It’s alright to mess with people’s heads and their lives, to think only of yourself and generally be an arrogant, pig headed person as long as you apologise after you’ve done it. You’ll still get what you want.

Again, I don’t normally get offended by films and their depictions of this, that and the other but SP *really* got up my nose. I think Moggy’s pointed out the real reason why actually - this skinny, whiny little guy manages to single handedly take out Captain America and Superman during the movie.

Completely off topic - while looking up the cast list of this film I found out that Jason Schwartzman’s Mum is Talia Shire. ADRIAAAAAN

Coming soon to “Cora Reviews”:

The Toy Story franchise – Cora will tell us why it is a pile of gooseberry fool because Buzz learns his lesson but Woody is still a banana split at the end.

Star Wars series – Cora gets furious that the galaxy didn’t learn any lessons from the decades of war and allowed the First Order to take over.

Rocky – Cora enjoys this movie, but it left a sour taste in his mouth that this man was only defined by how many punches he could take.

Shaun of the Dead – Returning to his hatred of Edgar Wright, Cora breaks down what an absolute dick Ed (Nick Frost) is and how even as a zombie, Ed was only good for playing video games with.

Preezy wrote:I haven't watched Scott Pilgrim, but I thought it looked gooseberry fool when seeing clips/trailers, so there's that.

Tafdolphin wrote:I echo the dislike of Scott Pilgrim. Character was an annoying twat that everyone else in the film tolerated for...I dunno, guitar skills?

It was also a massively over-designed, ugly mess of a film, so there's that too.

Vermilion wrote:

Tafdolphin wrote:I echo the dislike of Scott Pilgrim. Character was an annoying twat that everyone else in the film tolerated for...I dunno, guitar skills?

It was also a massively over-designed, ugly mess of a film, so there's that too.

I found it hard to tolerate everyone else in the film too, can't imagine how they came up with such an unlikeable set of characters.

I also hated the music.