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by Rudolphin » Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:36 pm

Finished Haunting of Hill House. A great series with one of the most bizarrely illogical, counterintuitive, just plain bad endings ever. I mean, a complete clusterfuck. This unfortunately took it from an 9 to an 8/10.

More thoughts later because...Jesus that was woeful.

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by The Last Ginja » Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:09 am

The Purge on Amazon Prime. Based off the films. Not as gory but enjoyable enough.

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by Rudolphin » Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:48 am

Right. Had a bit of time to digest. Here follows my thoughts on the final ep of Haunting of Hill House.

It's not a reach to state this wasn't a programme about ghosts so much as it was about personal trauma and the mental health issues that can be caused by them. This was specifically the aim of the author when she wrote the book back in 1959, after all. It's so obvious in fact that Steve straight up lists the condition each character represents around halfway through episode 9. This is the show's raison d'etre.

It is disappointing then that this premise is forgotten completely in its final episode. What was a slow burning exploration into a family wracked by a communal tragedy becomes a ghost train where all the strings and joints and robotics are visible through a flimsy veneer of plastic.

The ep is initially broken up into vignettes alighting on each character. Rather than focusing on preestablished traits for each, we instead get wildly irrelevant stories whose sole aim is to elicit a 'wham' moment. Instead what we get is a bunch of predictable cliches which, tellingly, rely on gore and revulsion far more than anything else in the show. They add nothing to the overarching plot, nor do they scare, nor do they educate. They are simply there to fill time.

It's once we've moved on from these however that the show really begins to collapse under the weigh of its own established norms. The previous episode rammed into our heads, over and over, a mantra that largely sums up the arcs for each and every character: "Fear... you submit to it or fight it but you cannot ignore it.") If we take the house itself as an analogue of fear and trauma this would, going into the episode, lead the viewer to believe the final ep would be about the family confronting and overcoming their fear in the form of the house and its ghosts.

Instead the episode transforms the house from a well woven analogy of trauma into a magical fairyland where you can walk forever with your loved ones. I mean, let's hope Elon Musk never finds out about the place as he'll slap a Tesla EvaLife banner on the thing and sell tickets for $100 000. The family neither confronts nor evades their fear, instead they explicitly ignore it, leaving the house standing so their memories of their fears, ie the dead sister, the schizophrenic mother, can continue to exist in their collective consciousness and haunt them forever. It directly contradicts the mantra the entire show up until that point had gone to pains to establish as the defining aspect of the narrative.

And the ending itself... initially I was utterly agape at the saccharine sweetness of the thing, Sheeran-esque licenced music and all, but it was made even worse when I read up on the matter and discovered the ending as shot was completely different:

"The series director Mike Flanagan revealed that the story was originally planned to have a much darker ending. It would have played out basically the same, except during the shot of the entire family celebrating together, the window of the Red Room would have been in the background, implying that they never managed to actually escape the house. He realized that he had become too attached to the characters and wanted to give them a proper happy ending, so rewrote the story so they actually did escape."


Changing this ending, which ties in to the show's themes, was an act of supreme selfishness on the director's part. He turned a dark and fitting conclusion into a sickly sweet, thematically contradictory one for his own purposes. Which, as an artist, is a cardinal sin. You work towards completion of the work and towards the consistency of that work, not to give yourself the warm and fuzzies on a last minute impulse.

The ending was terrible. It didn't alter my appreciation of the series as a whole, which is probably the best thing I've seen on TV this year (beating even Better Call Saul) but it did leave a sour taste in my mouth.

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by RichardYuleK » Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:00 am

Wolf Creek series 1 and 2

I really enjoyed it but after watching it I now never ever want to visit Australia - 8/10

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Better Call Saul - series 4

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by Satan's Claws » Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:51 pm

Tin Star series 1. strawberry floating fabulous.

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by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:20 am

Line of Duty Series 1 - 6.5/10

I’ve heard people raving about LoD and noticed it was on Netflix. I assume the later series get better because I didn’t think this was great. Good but not great.

I enjoyed Morgan playing What’s the time Mr Wolf though. :lol:

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by abcd » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:51 pm

Finished Haunting of Hill House and the ending left me feeling a bit underwhelmed.

The first 8 episodes are great. Fantastic stuff. The ending left me wanting more but everything was wrapped up in a pretty little bow and was very sickly.

It was like eating cookie dough. The first taste is great, and then the sugar kicks in and it's far too sweet and nice. You simple can't stomach it.

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by Rudolphin » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:55 pm

abcd wrote:Finished Haunting of Hill House and the ending left me feeling a bit underwhelmed.

The first 8 episodes are great. Fantastic stuff. The ending left me wanting more but everything was wrapped up in a pretty little bow and was very sickly.

It was like eating cookie dough. The first taste is great, and then the sugar kicks in and it's far too sweet and nice. You simple can't stomach it.



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by Jenu-All I Want For Christmas » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:04 pm

Moggy wrote:Line of Duty Series 1 - 6.5/10

I’ve heard people raving about LoD and noticed it was on Netflix. I assume the later series get better because I didn’t think this was great. Good but not great.

I enjoyed Morgan playing What’s the time Mr Wolf though. :lol:


I've not actually watched S1 of this but 2-4 are belters with 3 probably being the peak for me.

Some of it gets a bit unbelievable at times but the writing is just fantastic for the most part. For example the finale to one series is largely based around two interviews and so a big chunk of the episode is just a few people in a small room talking to each other and yet it is one of the most gripping things I've watched in recent years.

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by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:09 pm

Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:Line of Duty Series 1 - 6.5/10

I’ve heard people raving about LoD and noticed it was on Netflix. I assume the later series get better because I didn’t think this was great. Good but not great.

I enjoyed Morgan playing What’s the time Mr Wolf though. :lol:


I've not actually watched S1 of this but 2-4 are belters with 3 probably being the peak for me.

Some of it gets a bit unbelievable at times but the writing is just fantastic for the most part. For example the finale to one series is largely based around two interviews and so a big chunk of the episode is just a few people in a small room talking to each other and yet it is one of the most gripping things I've watched in recent years.


That’s good to hear, S1 was decent enough so I’ll look forward to it getting even better.

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by Miguel Ho Ho Ho 7 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:35 pm

The Sinner S2 - 6/10 - while the show goes on to tell an entertaining yarn; every actor except Bill Pullman and Julian, I found to be poor.

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Community Series 1- 8/10- Really enjoyable sitcom. Not really much more to say.

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by Saigon Slick » Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:15 pm

Up to the end of S5 of Taskmaster - it's utter genius. :lol:

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by Chestnut Snowleaves » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:03 am

Making A Murderer S2

It's obviously a fascinating story, but this time did not translate to thrilling TV. I guess with a real life documentary you can only present the events as they actually happen, but the content included here could have been shown in two episodes. Instead it's stretched to the point of utter tedium as we learn things like Steven Avery's parents are old and might die.

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by Inga from Sweden » Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:23 pm

Haunting of Hill House 9/10

The first 6 episodes are really disturbing, eerie stuff. I liked the last episode. I thought it was a good ending.

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by satriales » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:16 pm

Moggy wrote:Line of Duty Series 1 - 6.5/10

I’ve heard people raving about LoD and noticed it was on Netflix. I assume the later series get better because I didn’t think this was great. Good but not great.

I enjoyed Morgan playing What’s the time Mr Wolf though. :lol:

I've been rewatching all four series and I liked series 1 a lot, but it definitely steps up a gear from S2 onwards. It's one of those few shows where you genuinely don't know where it will go next.

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by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:47 am

satriales wrote:
Moggy wrote:Line of Duty Series 1 - 6.5/10

I’ve heard people raving about LoD and noticed it was on Netflix. I assume the later series get better because I didn’t think this was great. Good but not great.

I enjoyed Morgan playing What’s the time Mr Wolf though. :lol:

I've been rewatching all four series and I liked series 1 a lot, but it definitely steps up a gear from S2 onwards. It's one of those few shows where you genuinely don't know where it will go next.


I have just started series 4, but you are right, series 2 and 3 really ramped things up. The last episode of series 3 was fantastic.

Series 1 – 6.5/10
Series 2 – 8/10
Series 3 – 9/10

My only issue was Neil Morrissey. It’s not that he was bad in the show, I just can’t see him as anything other than the bloke from Men Behaving Badly that stole Les Dennis’ wife. :lol:

I am hoping series 4 keeps up the quality.


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