MAG - E3 show floor footage p.5

Screenshots look extremely 'sharp'. For example the green shrubs on the ground you can see they're single plains with an opacity map. In a screenshot of Killzone 2 I see blood, smoke, explosions, but looking at this I see squares and triangles. Maybe my eyes are just strawberry floated.

emilythestrange wrote:Screenshots look extremely 'sharp'. For example the green shrubs on the ground you can see they're single plains with an opacity map. In a screenshot of Killzone 2 I see blood, smoke, explosions, but looking at this I see squares and triangles. Maybe my eyes are just strawberry floated.

The trees in the background, too. They're just two flat sprites crossing in the middle.

These shots are very strange, some parts look photoshopped in or just flat sprites badly done.

If it's class based and tactical, it could be amazing in the right matches, proper armies head-to-head. And it's not Xbox Live, so there will be less annoying people to mess it up.

Maybe the numbers are too much, though? Well in that case, we need a game to prove it for future projects, and if it's a bad thing then this is the game to show that. I think it will do well, though.

It does look very generic and it's not really my sort of gameanyway so I doubt I'll be buying it, but the level design looks quite good.

Agent47 wrote:The only worry I have with this game is PSN itself, it has issues enough with the relatively limited numbers on existing games, Sony are gonna have to do a lot of work on PSN to avoid this being a total disaster.

Which games are they?
Resistance 2 has 60 players, Resistance 1 had 40, Warhawk has 32 none of these games have any lag. 256 players is a big increase in numbers so it might struggle but it's been ok with most games so far.

Alpha eX wrote:These shots are very strange, some parts look photoshopped in or just flat sprites badly done.

The flat sprites I could just about forgive, as it's still early code. They could very well be placeholders for the time being.

MCN wrote:
Alpha eX wrote:These shots are very strange, some parts look photoshopped in or just flat sprites badly done.

The flat sprites I could just about forgive, as it's still early code. They could very well be placeholders for the time being.

It'd be cool if you spawned from the sky and dropped down into the map, you might have snipers picking you off as you land though :lol:

This game clearly isn't ready to be shown off.

Alvin Flummux wrote:This game clearly isn't ready to be shown off.

I don't think it's gonna be much better. What you see here is pretty much what we are going to get.

cooldawn wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:This game clearly isn't ready to be shown off.

I don't think it's gonna be much better. What you see here is pretty much what we are going to get.

The glass is just completely empty with you, isn't it?

Another game on PS3 another average FPS how the tide has turned this gen.

CrystalGipsy wrote:Another game on PS3 another average FPS how the tide has turned this gen.

How can you tell it's average from 5 screenshots from an early build? Given the nature of the game, I'd say it cannot be average, as there is no computer opponent, and 256 online players all having to work as two opposing armies complete with command structure and different roles. As far as FPS's go, there are none other like it, at least on consoles. So how can it be average?

Jaxley wrote:it could be amazing in the right matches

Thats the problem right there, finding the right matches. I think it will be like killzone 2, a pretty good game but ruined by the majority of people who play it.

MCN wrote:
cooldawn wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:This game clearly isn't ready to be shown off.

I don't think it's gonna be much better. What you see here is pretty much what we are going to get.

The glass is just completely empty with you, isn't it?

Not at all, or, I'm considering other factors such as scale and the immense amount of people playing on the same map at the same time. I think this will have an effect on the visuals. I mean if you use SOCOM as the bar for this sort of thing then regardless of technical ability the game could still be brilliant to play.

My biggest fear is MAG seems to be using a FP viewpoint which I think isn't suitable for this type of game.

cooldawn wrote:My biggest fear is MAG seems to be using a FP viewpoint which I think isn't suitable for this type of game.

I think it's trying to, at least partially, replicate actually being a soldier in a battle. Hence, it uses the same viewpoint a soldier would have. I mean, at no point during my army career did I find myself seeing things from behind my own back.

MCN wrote:
cooldawn wrote:My biggest fear is MAG seems to be using a FP viewpoint which I think isn't suitable for this type of game.

I think it's trying to, at least partially, replicate actually being a soldier in a battle. Hence, it uses the same viewpoint a soldier would have. I mean, at no point during my army career did I find myself seeing things from behind my own back.

Errr...yeah...well you know what I'm saying so there's no need for that.

As fantastic as 256 players sound, I think everyone knows that will never happen. People moan about games where 32 people cause havoc, never mind 256 people running around. Even if they can separate people and have them doing different things, I really fear for the inst-kill and spawn camping in this game. :lol:

I will wait to see some real gameplay footage, which is bound to be at E3 but with BC2 and MW2 turning up this year, is there really space for MAG? Not to mention CoD4 and KZ2 are still huge.

MCN wrote:
CrystalGipsy wrote:Another game on PS3 another average FPS how the tide has turned this gen.

How can you tell it's average from 5 screenshots from an early build? Given the nature of the game, I'd say it cannot be average, as there is no computer opponent, and 256 online players all having to work as two opposing armies complete with command structure and different roles. As far as FPS's go, there are none other like it, at least on consoles. So how can it be average?

Sounds like Battlefield with more players although it is bound to broken up into smaller battles with smaller groups though not 256 in one go. To me it looks very average as for gameplay only time will tell but I won't hold my breath.

If you look at the map, it seems to be designed like Battlefield maps, where the large amount of players are forced to split up and go different ways. Lots of small choke points, no large expansive areas where 256 players can just run in and rumble in the jungle. Spawn points will be far apart probably.

Corran Horn (@NeoGAF) wrote:-2 to 256 Players
-'hopes' for 30FPS when all the action is going down at all times
-Dedicated servers with new network architectures to help reduce lag
-Streamline matches to reduce need to wait.
-All audio cues (planes flying by, air raid sirens) are actual players causing it or player triggered actions. This can happen in other regions and you can hear in distance.
-PunkBuster quality cheating detection. System tests for things like rate of fire/movement/damage to keep things in check
-First Person view (better sense of scale and immersion into game)
-20 years in future, 3 major PMCs bid for war. The power struggle of these 3 dubbed Shadow War
3 Factions, only 2 announced now: Raven(high tech weapons, most trained soldiers on planet. Will appeal to Halo/Resistances fans). Sver(fierce fighters from middle east/central Asia area. Battle harden warriors)
-256 Domination mode. Attackers and defenders. Out layer of defense and inner layer. Once gone through the out layer 'hell breaks loose'. Anti-aircraft and radar are vulnerable. If your faction wins alot it gets the contract for that game mode and gets XP bonuses and perks.
-3 other game modes: Acquisition(128 player escort-style mode. Steal 2 prototype armored transports and bring to extraction zone). Sabotage(64player, control 2 points for X time then a demolition objective is revealed which must be destroyed). Suppression(64 player team deathmatch)
-Customize face, voice, armor.
-No soldier class system, but has a free-form kit creation. Can save 3 different load-outs. Depending on your choice of weapons, it can be told by looking at you so others can tell. Change your load-out to match how the battle is going.
-Snipers can get more than normal XP for killing people in designated areas of importance
-Ranking up gives access to new weapons/perks/leadership positions.
-Recognizes issues with large scale maps and the traveling.

-8 player into a squad, 4 squads into a platoon, 4 platoons into a company (US Military)
-Certain goals for each squad/platoon etc. Have 2ndary goals like blowing bridges.
-Veteran ranks can enlist into leadership roles, give orders to squad, then platoon, then the company(OIC)
-Officer only communication channel to help organize the battle

-Want to be approachable to casual yet have alot of features for the hardcore.
-Been running 256 player tests since Nov. 08 and plans to have closed/open betas.

Release date sometime this fall. Taken from GameInformer.

MAG - E3 show floor footage p.5

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