Making a Murderer - Netflix

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PostRe: Making a Murderer - Netflix
by Dual » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:37 am

Can't remember what happened in the first one. Do they recap it?

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by satriales » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:50 am

Dual wrote:Can't remember what happened in the first one. Do they recap it?

There is a 2 minute recap if you look in the the trailers section on Netflix.

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by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:56 am

Dual wrote:Can't remember what happened in the first one. Do they recap it?


Man falsely imprisoned for a crime. Man gets released. Man sues police. Police arrest man for another crime. Man says he is innocent.

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by Ho-Ho-Ho-tek » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:59 am

The Dassey kid had nothing to do with the murder at all, baffling that his confession was allowed. I used to be 50/50 on Avery but 4 episodes into this season I actually think he's entirely innocent and was set up.

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by satriales » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:59 am

LewisD wrote:Has anyone watched any of this yet?

How does it fare in comparison to series one (rhymes with wun)?
Boring or full of intrigue and twists?

I've seen the whole thing. It's very different to season 1
(slower and less twisty) but I still found it interesting and had to keep watching.

They split time fairly evenly between both cases. With Steven Avery a lot of the focus is on figuring out what actually happened and discrediting what the prosecution said in trial. Lots of experiments and speaking with experts to try and piece the story together. With Brandon there was no scientific evidence so it's all about appealing to higher judges that his confession was coerced.

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by Ho-Ho-Ho-tek » Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:09 am

The entire story of Avery tying her to the bed and then shooting her has no forensic data to back any of it up. Thinking back, why didn't the original lawyers attack that?

The police didn't photograph the bones they found on his property, they simply collected bones and said they got them there. I'd love to know who killed Hallbach though, I know this season is going to go there but haven't seen them all yet. Either way the police framed Avery, revenge or do they think he did it and realized they had no evidence so conspired to use his blood to charge him with murder.

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PostRe: Making a Murderer - Netflix
by Dual » Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:09 am

satriales wrote:
LewisD wrote:Has anyone watched any of this yet?

How does it fare in comparison to series one (rhymes with wun)?
Boring or full of intrigue and twists?

I've seen the whole thing. It's very different to season 1
(slower and less twisty) but I still found it interesting and had to keep watching.

They split time fairly evenly between both cases. With Steven Avery a lot of the focus is on figuring out what actually happened and discrediting what the prosecution said in trial. Lots of experiments and speaking with experts to try and piece the story together. With Brandon there was no scientific evidence so it's all about appealing to higher judges that his confession was coerced.


Is it better than Staircase?

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by Ho-Ho-Ho-tek » Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:19 am

It’s not quite as good as the staircase but it’s better than that series more recent episodes.

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by Jenu-All I Want For Christmas » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:10 pm

Just starting watching season 1 of this and I'm hooked. Episode 2 tonight I think!

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PostRe: Making a Murderer - Netflix
by Harry Ellis » Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:14 pm

Jenuall wrote:Just starting watching season 1 of this and I'm hooked. Episode 2 tonight I think!

It was gripping to start with but I stopped after episode 8 IIRC.

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PostRe: Making a Murderer - Netflix
by Rubix » Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:02 pm

Was going to ask about season 2

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by mic » Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:52 pm

Season 2 is even better! Steve gets a badass lawyer!

I'm on the fence about whether they should have included quite so much family stuff, but I can definitely see the value in showing just how much time is passing.

If you're not sure about his innocence, this will clinch it.

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by Rubix » Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:44 pm

Ahh okay, I’ll leave it on my list

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by Frosty the Clarkman » Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:41 pm

Zellner does such an impeccable job and it is so brilliantly directed, that it is tremendously difficult to maintain skepticism. Such a good bit of television. Such a horrifying reality of America.

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by Roonmastor » Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:23 pm

Finished Part 2 and Zellner just keeps dropping bombs.

I know Avery was set up and kind of figured we'd never know how. Zellner's revelation on the diary evidenced floored me, Barb's husband is looking shady AF with the ignored texts and the cops all deserve prison time. You couldn't write the cover ups of the CD and RAV4 sightings bits. I hate Ken Kratz more than peak internet hate for Joffrey in GoT. Seriously deceitful.

It all just adds up nicely, majorly within the current evidence that was presented in Part 1.

Shame they drag it out a bit. Half the show is worrying his Mum might die soon.

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PostRe: Making a Murderer - Netflix
by mic » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:56 pm

Roonmastor wrote:...I hate Ken Kratz more than peak internet hate for Joffrey in GoT...


Yah? That’s a lot of hate... and he deserves every bit. That smirk! :x

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PostRe: Making a Murderer - Netflix
by Advent7 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:16 pm

Just finished series 2.

strawberry float me :|

How the hell can all those judges rule to overturn Brendan's conviction, then someone can just turn around and say nah m8 keep him in.

The computer searches :dread:

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PostRe: Making a Murderer - Netflix
by Preezy » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:41 pm

Preezy wrote:My thoughts on it from earlier in the thread:

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I really don't know what to think about Avery being found guilty. I think the documentary clearly was on his side to make it a more interesting show but if he didn't kill her then who did? The evidence the defence had clearly showed police misconduct but that doesn't exonerate Avery, I just don't know, such a clusterfuck. To think that whilst we're all watching and debating this, he's been in prison for 10 years is just mental.

Still feel the same I think.

Finished season 2 - I no longer feel the same as I did in the above quotes. I think both Brendan and Steve are both innocent, and that weirdo horsecum Bobby is the killer. But the American justice system is so strawberry floated up that neither of them will ever get out.

Was pretty heartbreaking watching Avery's parents circle the drain :(

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by Hime » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:34 pm

Preezy wrote:
Preezy wrote:My thoughts on it from earlier in the thread:

Preezy wrote:
I really don't know what to think about Avery being found guilty. I think the documentary clearly was on his side to make it a more interesting show but if he didn't kill her then who did? The evidence the defence had clearly showed police misconduct but that doesn't exonerate Avery, I just don't know, such a clusterfuck. To think that whilst we're all watching and debating this, he's been in prison for 10 years is just mental.

Still feel the same I think.

Finished season 2 - I no longer feel the same as I did in the above quotes. I think both Brendan and Steve are both innocent, and that weirdo horsecum Bobby is the killer. But the American justice system is so strawberry floated up that neither of them will ever get out.

Was pretty heartbreaking watching Avery's parents circle the drain :(

Finished last night and couldn't agree more. Crazy that the decision of random people is considered binding despite three amount of new evidence that has been uncovered, unless you win an appeal in witch case the prosecution can just appeal to a higher power to get the decision they want.

I can't believe that a guilty person could remain so resolute I'm their innocence for so long if they truly did something so horrific. Even if he did the sneaky tactic with what was found on Bobby Dassey's computer is the difference between winning and losing the case.

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PostRe: Making a Murderer - Netflix
by Advent7 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:40 pm

One of the worst bits was the "we found bones nearby on adjacent land but we're only going to spend a few seconds on that"


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