MCU Thread 2

[Rex Kramer]

The decision to swap Echo's powers was because, as I understand it, she's very similar to Taskmaster in the comics. That character is supposed to return in Thunderbolts so they went in a different direction.

[Moggy]

I have just finished catching up on the latest MCU TV.

What If S2 was a disappointment. I remember enjoying the first season, even if I was not blown away. But I found the majority of this quite dull. Meh.

Echo was much much better. Studio fuckery has obvious mucked it up a bit, but what was there was pretty good. The ending was a bit crap though, it felt like it was all a bit thrown together. Another episode or two to flesh things out would have made it a much better series over all.

[Moggy]

The Marvels will be on Disney+ on 7 February.

[Jenuall]

I enjoyed The Marvels a lot, is it the greatest MCU movie ever? Absolutely not, but it deserved to do way better at the box office than it did.

[Vermilion]

It's out on blu ray from 19th Feb too, i have it pre-ordered.

I enjoyed the original Captain Marvel and so am looking forward to this.

[Rex Kramer]

Catching up on S2 of What If and it's been a very mixed bag up until now. But the 1602 episode is pretty much everything you want from this series. Top notch entertainment.

[Cheeky Devlin]

Catching up on S2 of What If and it's been a very mixed bag up until now. But the 1602 episode is pretty much everything you want from this series. Top notch entertainment.

I'm about 4-5 episodes in and it's been alright I thought.
Totally throw away, but that's exactly what the show is for so I don't mind.
Some glorious art this season as well. Especially in that first episode. So anime.

[Dowbocop]

Catching up on some of the MCU stuff we've missed out on and currently on Greenscreenmania - why does Evangeline Lilly look like Ghislaine Maxwell in this? It's very distracting...

[Dowbocop]

Not a great film to be honest. The big fight at the end was pretty cool but I was just a bit fatigued by everything just being "QUANTUMMMMM" for so long. You can draw similarities with both the weirdness of the GOTG films and the Disney Strange Worlds which came out at the end of 2022. They both have weird, otherworldly stuff in almost every frame and it's basically their selling point, but they tie it to and intertwine it with their "real" worlds a lot better so it doesn't feel as garish. This just felt like an absolutely pointless excursion into the Quantum Realm in order to rush the introduction of an underwhelming big bad. And from the first scene you know exactly what Janet has done so the evasive mentioning by everyone of the bad man wot does bad things ahead of meeting him just seems unnecessary. I get that they've done a lot on earth with Ant-Man and the QR is an interesting location to secure, but because they spent like 90 minutes down there with no break (fnarr) there was none of the real world humour that makes Ant-Man fun.

I don't buy that Janet didn't mention the strawberry floating intergalactic warlord she enabled. I know she came back and then almost immediately got snapped but she had enough time to cryptically warn thar be monstarrrs to her immediate family so maybe she could've dropped a word in people's shell at the wake she went to at the end of Endgame with pretty much every friendly Supe on the planet attending, idk...

Things I liked:

strawberry floating loved Scott fighting like Cap with the big disc platform thing

The dying building being cradled by another building

The Chekhov's Ants subplot is basically a Treehouse of Horror plot and I like that one so I suppose that's good...

Nobody is really bad in this, it's just a bad film

[Memento Mori]

I enjoyed Echo, five episode season was a good choice. I especially liked it setting up one of my favourite recent Daredevil arcs.

[Mafro]

Ant-Man had no business getting one movie let alone three,

[ITSMILNER]

twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1755363318003306733

Bob Iger says output has been reduced at Marvel and will focus on their "stronger franchises" going forward

Guessing they will focus more on X-Men and FF along with building up a new team of Avengers sooner.

[Qikz]

That sucks, I've enjoyed the smaller stuff way more than the bigger stuff previously and it gives poeple like echo a chance to get to shine.Werewolf by Night was absolutely amazing and I'd never heard of any of the characters before - I wanted to see more tbh.

I won't complain about FF being focused on though as long as they don't strawberry float them up.

[Frank]

Big fan of Bob saying "there's too much Marvel" on the same call that he's hyping up Toy Story 5 and Frozen 3. Wish the shareholders would strawberry float him off.

[shy guy 64]

Focusing on what’s popular while giving the smaller stuff the boot is very corporate

[Memento Mori]

Big fan of Bob saying "there's too much Marvel" on the same call that he's hyping up Toy Story 5 and Frozen 3. Wish the shareholders would strawberry float him off.

I mean as a Disney shareholder myself, I like money.

[poshrule_uk]

So this is all your fault

[Rex Kramer]

Although Werewolf by night was a smaller thing, I bet it still cost a fair amount of wedge.

[FatDaz]

Saw the marvels yesterday. Generic by the numbers action comedy. Some fun fights scenes but I had no interest and the plot was thread bare. The villain was one of the blandest yet and the ending was trying for emotional but fell flat for me. End credit cameo was cool though. If this cost £260million then they need to reevaluate what they are doing.

They’ve lost their edge. They bet it all on IronMan and it was an huge gamble. Same for a lot of phase 1, early flops would have killed the MCU dead. They’ve now made so much money they can afford for films to tank at the box office. They need to go back to basics and focus on story and character not CGI spectacle.

It’s like the plot of rocky 3, they’ve becoming me so complacent they haven’t really had to put the effort in.

[Cheeky Devlin]

Saw the marvels yesterday. Generic by the numbers action comedy. Some fun fights scenes but I had no interest and the plot was thread bare. The villain was one of the blandest yet and the ending was trying for emotional but fell flat for me. End credit cameo was cool though. If this cost £260million then they need to reevaluate what they are doing.

They’ve lost their edge. They bet it all on IronMan and it was an huge gamble. Same for a lot of phase 1, early flops would have killed the MCU dead. They’ve now made so much money they can afford for films to tank at the box office. They need to go back to basics and focus on story and character not CGI spectacle.

It’s like the plot of rocky 3, they’ve becoming me so complacent they haven’t really had to put the effort in.

I've still not bothered to watch the Marvels.

I was getting them all on 4K when they came out, but this is the first one in years I've not bothered to buy. I'll probably still get it, if just for completion sake.

The problem now is that no-one new is jumping in. Not when you've got 30 odd movies and a handful of shows to get through to catch up.

I genuinely think they're biding their time until they can roll out Secret Wars to wrap up the multiverse mess, then I would expect a "soft" reboot of things with the introduction of X-Men and Fantastic Four. I also think we're probably 4-5 years at most away from a live action Miles Morales Spider-Man movie. Miles is probably the hottest character Marvel have at the moment and he's beyond due his live action debut. Given Iger wants to focus on more "popular" series I think they would be stupid not to be planning that with Sony.

It's really hard to see how they move forward with the MCU at this point. They're not exactly in DCs position, but they're fighting both superhero fatigue and a general drop in the standard of their output. Which is inevitable after so many different projects.