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by BID0 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:23 am

Corazon de Leon wrote:
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Corazon de Leon wrote:
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Corazon de Leon wrote:Homecoming has every chance of making as much money as the original Spider-Man. Even the biggest money-maker - Spider-Man 3 - managed $890 million; After two weekends the latest one is bubbling just under $500 million and although it's dropped off from opening weekend, is still making good money. It should easily best AMS2 and rival the first two Raimi films.


Take into account inflation though and it won't come even close.


Fair point, I didn't consider inflation.

I don't necessarily disagree, but I reckon it won't be as far off as you might think in terms of worldwide gross - inflation adds about 200 mill to Spider-Man and $150 mill to Spider-Man 3(the highest grossing of the five), so the targets are adjusted to $1.14 billion for Spider-Man and $1.049 billion for 3. I reckon Homecoming will break about $800 million, which isn't bad for the seventh film featuring the character in fifteen years - hold the sequel off until 2020 and it could break a billion again IMO.

The next Spider-Man is out directly after Avengers 4 and it takes plates minutes after that movies story. So it'll probably due huge numbers thanks to that like Iron Man 3 did from riding off of Avengers 1.


After posting that I noticed the 2019 release date for the Spider-sequel. Don't know how happy with that I am, but I thoroughly enjoyed this and I guess they need to blast out high school themed sequels quickly before the main actors look too old, so I guess it's no bad thing. :lol:

I imagine it'll be every 2 years probably. Although the Marvel and Sony contract ends after the second movie. Sony already have spin-offs in the works with a bunch of characters to set up a universe again :fp:

Sony’s Silver & Black Rumored to Feature Classic Spider-Man Foes: http://www.cbr.com/silver-black-spider-man-villains/

Hopefully both Spider-Mans movies are profitable and the contract gets extended... or even better Sony movies go bankrupt.

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PostRe: [MCU Thread] - Spider-Man Homecoming out 5 July
by Grumpy David » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:47 am

Wait so Sony would remove Spiderman from the Marvel universe even though this is exactly why this movie didn't flop?! Madness. Sony can't be trusted to make a good Spiderman movie by themselves.

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PostRe: [MCU Thread] - Spider-Man Homecoming out 5 July
by BID0 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:22 am

Grumpy David wrote:Wait so Sony would remove Spiderman from the Marvel universe even though this is exactly why this movie didn't flop?! Madness. Sony can't be trusted to make a good Spiderman movie by themselves.

The initial contract is/was for a joint partnership. It may have already been extended since Civil War and this solo movies reaction.

Marvel make the movie and in return get to use the Spider-Man character (presumably X amount of times - so far Civil War and the next one/two Avengers movies). Not sure if they get to use villains/secondary characters etc in their own productions.

Sony fund the production of the Spider-Man movies and receive the profits.

The partnership length is for 2 Spider-Man solo movies and 2 (3 if he is in both Avengers movies?) MCU movies. At this point the contract is complete and Sony can either extend the deal (probably with different criteria - although Sony are running out of cards as they don't have merchandising rights to the characters and they recently gave away the TV rights), or they can go it alone again - I'm not sure they can continue using Tom Holland though - probably not.

Because Sony are funding the movies if they don't turn a profit, or not as profitable as they hope then you could see them going alone again in a few years time.

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PostRe: [MCU Thread] - Spider-Man Homecoming out 5 July
by Return_of_the_STAR » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:11 pm

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Grumpy David wrote:Wait so Sony would remove Spiderman from the Marvel universe even though this is exactly why this movie didn't flop?! Madness. Sony can't be trusted to make a good Spiderman movie by themselves.

The initial contract is/was for a joint partnership. It may have already been extended since Civil War and this solo movies reaction.

Marvel make the movie and in return get to use the Spider-Man character (presumably X amount of times - so far Civil War and the next one/two Avengers movies). Not sure if they get to use villains/secondary characters etc in their own productions.

Sony fund the production of the Spider-Man movies and receive the profits.

The partnership length is for 2 Spider-Man solo movies and 2 (3 if he is in both Avengers movies?) MCU movies. At this point the contract is complete and Sony can either extend the deal (probably with different criteria - although Sony are running out of cards as they don't have merchandising rights to the characters and they recently gave away the TV rights), or they can go it alone again - I'm not sure they can continue using Tom Holland though - probably not.

Because Sony are funding the movies if they don't turn a profit, or not as profitable as they hope then you could see them going alone again in a few years time.


So potentially if Sony and marvel don't agree to an extension then we could see a spiderman TV show with Tom Holland in it, depending on how the actors contract works.

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PostRe: [MCU Thread] - Spider-Man Homecoming out 5 July
by BID0 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:19 pm

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
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Grumpy David wrote:Wait so Sony would remove Spiderman from the Marvel universe even though this is exactly why this movie didn't flop?! Madness. Sony can't be trusted to make a good Spiderman movie by themselves.

The initial contract is/was for a joint partnership. It may have already been extended since Civil War and this solo movies reaction.

Marvel make the movie and in return get to use the Spider-Man character (presumably X amount of times - so far Civil War and the next one/two Avengers movies). Not sure if they get to use villains/secondary characters etc in their own productions.

Sony fund the production of the Spider-Man movies and receive the profits.

The partnership length is for 2 Spider-Man solo movies and 2 (3 if he is in both Avengers movies?) MCU movies. At this point the contract is complete and Sony can either extend the deal (probably with different criteria - although Sony are running out of cards as they don't have merchandising rights to the characters and they recently gave away the TV rights), or they can go it alone again - I'm not sure they can continue using Tom Holland though - probably not.

Because Sony are funding the movies if they don't turn a profit, or not as profitable as they hope then you could see them going alone again in a few years time.


So potentially if Sony and marvel don't agree to an extension then we could see a spiderman TV show with Tom Holland in it, depending on how the actors contract works.

I think the Movie rights stipulate no live action projects, so that extends to tv shows and shorts etc.

I think Marvel have an animated Spider-Man tv show now. It's the reason Marvel haven't produced an X-Men show despite having the tv rights (I think)

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PostRe: [MCU Thread] - Spider-Man Homecoming out 5 July
by BID0 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:24 am

SDCC Poster for Avengers :wub: probably the first of many that join up in a row like they're done for the previous Avengers movies (back then it was just one or two characters on each poster...).

Looks like it might be made from the colours of each Infinity Stone? Green to Blue then to...

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Fox are working on a Doctor Doom project :fp: strawberry float sake. Hopefully they get this out of the way quickly and it bombs.

Fox has been eyeing ways to revive the Fantastic Four franchise for the big screen, and Legion creator Noah Hawley made one of those ways public Thursday at San Diego Comic-Con.

At the end of his panel for FX's Legion, Hawley teased that he is developing a movie for Fox that fans may be interested in.

"Two words," he said. "Doctor. Doom."


Sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that Hawley is developing a feature project centering around one of Marvel Comics' most recognizable villains with an eye to direct.

The character is the chief antagonist of Marvel's Fantastic Four, the superteam created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby to which Fox has the movie rights.

The Fantastic Four has had a somewhat troubled big-screen history. Tim Story directed the 2005 film Fantastic Four and the 2007 sequel Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer. While they were commercially successful, they were not quite embraced by fans. A 2015 reboot directed by Josh Trank was a critical and commercial bomb so damaging that it led to Trank being fired from a Star Wars spinoff.

Fox has been looking to reboot and reimagine the franchise after the lackluster performance of the 2015 outing, and another Fantastic Four movie would just not do, so the studio is looking at various angles. There are rumors that Seth Grahame-Smith is working on a Fantastic Four spinoff featuring Franklin Richards, the son of Mr. Fantastic and Invisible Girl.

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PostRe: [MCU Thread] - Spider-Man Homecoming out 5 July
by Hexx » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:51 am

@Inhumans. Oh god that hair.

And they're going with racial supiority based on "You're only human" about Maximus. Jesus the Inhumans are just awful.

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PostRe: [MCU Thread] - Spider-Man Homecoming out 5 July
by BID0 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:57 am

Hexx wrote:@Inhumans. Oh god that hair.

And they're going with racial supiority based on "You're only human" about Maximus. Jesus the Inhumans are just awful.

I'm thinking they're still working on the CGI. Probably 100% of the efforts were on the dog up until now. The last trailer didn't even have animated hair and even in that trailer the CGI looks worse than even the Netflix shows. Hopefully they can get it up to par with SHIELD episodes and the movies, and hopefully the effects quality doesn't dip after the movie premiere in to the remaining episodes.

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PostRe: [MCU Thread] - Spider-Man Homecoming out 5 July
by Eighthours » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:57 am

BID0 wrote:Fox are working on a Doctor Doom project :fp: strawberry float sake. Hopefully they get this out of the way quickly and it bombs.

Fox has been eyeing ways to revive the Fantastic Four franchise for the big screen, and Legion creator Noah Hawley made one of those ways public Thursday at San Diego Comic-Con.

At the end of his panel for FX's Legion, Hawley teased that he is developing a movie for Fox that fans may be interested in.

"Two words," he said. "Doctor. Doom."


Sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that Hawley is developing a feature project centering around one of Marvel Comics' most recognizable villains with an eye to direct.


Noah Hawley is INCREDIBLE, though. So even though this sounds like a gooseberry fool idea, don't count it out.

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PostRe: [MCU Thread] - Spider-Man Homecoming out 5 July
by BID0 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:00 am

Eighthours wrote:
BID0 wrote:Fox are working on a Doctor Doom project :fp: strawberry float sake. Hopefully they get this out of the way quickly and it bombs.

Fox has been eyeing ways to revive the Fantastic Four franchise for the big screen, and Legion creator Noah Hawley made one of those ways public Thursday at San Diego Comic-Con.

At the end of his panel for FX's Legion, Hawley teased that he is developing a movie for Fox that fans may be interested in.

"Two words," he said. "Doctor. Doom."


Sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that Hawley is developing a feature project centering around one of Marvel Comics' most recognizable villains with an eye to direct.


Noah Hawley is INCREDIBLE, though. So even though this sounds like a gooseberry fool idea, don't count it out.

I've heard good things about Legion but this project resets the F4 rights and means it's another 8+ years wait before they could come back to Marvel

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PostRe: [MCU Thread] - Spider-Man Homecoming out 5 July
by Floex » Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:59 pm

Who cares? As long as it's good, Legion has been one of the best superhero takes including the Marvel films.

Fox have been doing well lately with Legion, Deadpool and of course Logan. All for it.

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PostRe: [MCU Thread] - Spider-Man Homecoming out 5 July
by Mafro » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:11 pm

But they've been doing absolute shite with the Fantastic Four side of things.

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by Floex » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:34 pm

It's early days, granted but those 3 examples show they can make decent productions. Logan isn't just a good superhero movie, it's a great movie in its own right.

I think Fox are finding the right people now, what has and hasn't worked in th past and now in the hands of Hawley theres are very optimistic outlook about this project.

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PostRe: [MCU Thread] - Spider-Man Homecoming out 5 July
by Memento Mori » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:33 pm

Are we pretending Legion was good?

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by Nibble » Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:29 pm

Memento Mori wrote:Are we pretending Legion was good?


No, it was gooseberry fool. And I really like Fargo.

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by Floex » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:23 pm

The state of this forum :fp:

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PostRe: [MCU Thread] - Spider-Man Homecoming out 5 July
by Mafro » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:37 pm

This looks pretty good


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by Garth » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:17 am

News from Comic-Con!

Ant-Man and the Wasp

- Michelle Pfeiffer cast as Janet van Dyne
- Laurence Fishburne cast as Dr. Bill Foster
- Randall Park cast as Agent Jimmy Woo
- Hannah John-Kamen cast as Ghost
- Walton Goggins cast as Sonny Burch

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Captain Marvel

- Set in the 90s
- Villains are the Skrulls
- Nick Fury is in it too (with both eyes)

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Thor: Ragnarok

- Set 4 years after the events of Thor: The Dark World



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Black Panther

- Set just after Captain America: Civil War
- Footage description:
There's a scene which opens in a club. A lawyer enters and T’Challa is tracking him with Lupita and Danai. Everett tries to stop Klaw from coming in with so many people. Law then asks if Everett brought the Diamonds. He hands a briefcase over and Klaw trades it for Virbranium. Gupta wants to move in on them but Danai ties to be patient. She fights a man and flips him over some railing. Law starts shooting and a fight breaks out. Dana and T’Challa kick major butt. T'Challa beats a ton of men and jumps up to the higher level to catch Klaw. The villain pulls out a huge weapon and fires.

Black panther then jumps on top of a car. A ship flies over Wakanda and the Queen tells C’Challa it’s his time. A water fight is happening. T'Challa tells his right hand man he wants to be the right kind of king. Kendrick Lamar plays as T’Chala falls out of a ship and onto robbers in the jungle. There is a major car chase. Kilmonger comes out of an ambulance and Klaw fires his big fun again. Dana rides on the top of a car and throws a spear.

In the throne room, Killmonger and T’Challa go head to head. Black panther’s suit turns gold in parts.

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Avengers: Infinity War

- Footage description:
'We are arriving,' Mantis said to the Guardians. Teenage Groot in a seat. They describe this place as 'dangerous.' The body of Thor lands on their windshield. His hair is short. Rocket is startled. Mantis wakes him up using her powers. Thor is startled. All of the Guardians look at him, prompting him to ask who they are. The ship zips through the cosmos. Elsewhere, Wanda dodges some white energy, and it breaks a truck. Somewhere else, Loki stands in ruin, presenting the Tesseract to someone. Peter's Spider-Sense takes off as he rides a bus. Tony prepares for battle. He is in space with the Guardians.

'Fun really isn't something one considers when balancing the universe,' Thanos said. 'This does put a smile on my face.' Gamora looks on, terrified. The Guardians observe ruin in many places across Earth and the cosmos. Thanos warps into this new world. Star-Lord battles him. Strange battles him. Spider-man, in his new suit, battles him. Winter Soldier battles on Earth. Wakanda readies to defend their territory. Cap steps out of the shadows, bearded, with longer hair. Hulkbuster fights.

Peter looks up at Tony, laying down with his mask off, fighting tears with Tony's hand behind his head, and says, 'I'm sorry, Tony.'

Black Panther fights an Outrider, appearing as it did Infinity. Thor's head is squeezed by Thanos. Thanos pummels Iron Man in a fight. The Guardians are all defeated. Thanos has assembled the Infinity Gauntlet. He throws a moon at an entire planet.

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PostRe: [MCU Thread] - Spider-Man Homecoming out 5 July
by Skippy » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:33 am

God I love the MCU. Just hook all this to my strawberry floating veins

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PostRe: [MCU Thread] - Spider-Man Homecoming out 5 July
by Tragic Magic » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:27 am

The villain in Ragnarok is the character that Thanos idolises, right?


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