Marvel's The Defenders - Objection! No untagged spoilers [Out Now]

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by Corazon de Leon » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:33 pm

Nibble wrote:Thought the first four episodes were stronger than the last four, where it really struggled to hold my attention.

There's something really off with that Daredevil mask design. Most of the time it looks really goofy. Something wrong about the eyes. Like his theme tune should be duelling banjos maybe.

Also, is Danny Rand really as much of a knob in the comics as he is shown to be here?


No, if anything Iron Fist is one of the best Marvel characters - the writers have massacred the character here.

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by Garth » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:38 pm

I was hoping for more from Sigourney Weaver's character TBH.

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by Mafro » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:49 pm

I really didn't see the point in her at all. No idea why they decided to just make up a completely new villain for this show rather than using one of the countless ones from the source material.

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by Corazon de Leon » Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:02 pm

I didn't see the point in killing her off just for shock value. We never even got to see what she could do in a fight.

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by BID0 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:36 pm

I was hoping she'd turn out to be Mephisto or something to transistion from Street Level to the Supernatural in the near future. Her and Gao did talk briefly about someone senior to them at one point. And they could easily bring her back from the dead if they choose to reuse her. But yeh, I was surprised they just killed her off without doing much with such a big name

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by Mafro » Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:45 pm

It's a shame they're held back by what characters they can use by the movie side of things, even though it's clear Feigie doesn't want anything to do with the TV side of things.

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by Grumpy David » Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:23 am

The Punisher trailer at the end of episode 8. :datass:


Figuring out strength levels in this was confusing.

Luke Cage clearly is a one man army.
Jessica Jones is 2nd strongest.
Neither have martial arts skills and just rely on being close to the action.

Iron Fist is fast and skilled but with far less durability and still can't hurt Luke with an Iron Fist attack.

Daredevil is fast and skilled but is basically the weak link of the group.

So in most of the fight scenes you end up thinking "why doesn't Luke Cage just knock these fodder out easily".

I enjoyed the show but it's definitely got some flaws.

Daredevil season 2 remains my favourite because of The Punisher. None of these Marvel shows are unmissable amazing TV, but I do admire the ambition and intention of the shows.

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by Rex Kramer » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:43 pm

Still late to the party but end of episode 3 and beginning of 4 is up there with the best of the Netflix shows (alongside Frank in Daredevil S2).

EDIT: 'This is one shitty excuse for a hideout' :datass: Stick :wub:

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by Moggy » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:13 pm

I finished this the other day. Overall I really enjoyed it, it was up there with DD for me, was better than JJ and LC and kicked the gooseberry fool out of IF (which I didn’t hate).

Danny is a useless little whiny bitch though. I am not sure if the character is supposed to be that way or if the writing for his character is just appalling? General series spoilers moaning about Danny below:

He has the worst of all the powers. His magic fist might be impressive except he can barely ever seem to use it “My chi is depleted!” and even when it does work, it barely seems to make him any more powerful than Luke or Jessica who can use their powers all the time. Even Madame Gow (sp?) knocks him on his arse most of the time and she’s old as strawberry float for an immortal.

All that wouldn’t matter so much, except he is also useless as actually stopping bad things happening. “What’s that? You need my Iron First to open your sealed room? Umm ok hold on while I charge my chi and then start throwing my fists around right by the seal that only I can break!”. Utter dickhead

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by smurphy » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:28 pm

This is better than I expected, though I do sometimes wish I just watching Daredevil season 3.

I can't strawberry floating stand whatever petty legal bullshit it is that means this is pretty much as far removed from the MCU as The Wire. As far as I can remember through all of this and all of Daredevil the only reference to anything from it is 'The incident', which is so non-specific that to a layman it could be anything. Are they seriously not allowed to even say 'Iron Man'? And where the hell is Spiderman? Logically speaking he should 100% be involved in this. He's the Queens equivalent of Daredevil, he'd have as much interest in saving NY as any of them.

Obviously from a business standpoint they can't have mega stars like Robert Downey Jr. romping about with these relative B-listers, but surely they could integrate it a bit better than they have.

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by Memento Mori » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:38 pm

It's not a legal thing, it's the head of Marvel Studios hating the chairman of Marvel Entertainment. The movie and the TV divisions are now completely separate.

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PostRe: Marvel's The Defenders - Objection! No untagged spoilers [Out Now]
by smurphy » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:45 pm

:fp:

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by Memento Mori » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:48 pm

Here's an article about it.

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by Mafro » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:00 pm

smurphy wrote: :fp:

The head of Marvel Entertainment is literally one of Trump's mates.

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by Memento Mori » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:08 pm

Mafro wrote:
smurphy wrote: :fp:

The head of Marvel Entertainment is literally one of Trump's mates.

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by Mafro » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:09 pm

The strawberry floating photo :lol:

One of the shadiest things I've ever seen.

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by Floex » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:00 pm

That was one dull first episode.

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by Fuzzy Dunlop » Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:17 pm

Finished this last night. Was ok. Better than Iron Fist but was quite a way off the others IMO.

The fight scenes in the last two episodes are some of the worst I've ever seen in anything, ever. You genuinely can't see or follow anything that happens in them. Not sure who thought it'd be a good idea to have the big final showdown in a dark cave where the camera literally cuts to something else every 3 seconds. Truly awful. Seems like Misty throughout the entire season was just asking "Please tell me whats going on", which is a shame cause I enjoyed her character in Luke Cage. Also Danny Rand is a massive dick.

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by Meep » Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:50 pm

I wouldn't mind seeing a Daughters of the Dragon series with Misty and Colleen.

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PostRe: Marvel's The Defenders - Objection! No untagged spoilers [Out Now]
by smurphy » Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:55 pm

Quick question from someone who hasn't watched Jessica Jones: Why does she appear to be super strong? I thought she was just a normal person who was good at investigating.


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