ME3; Story Discussion New ending content announced pg37

This stupid ending keeps invading my brain when I'm not thinking about something else or doing something. The more I think about it the stupider it gets. I just feel like finding the dick who did this and shouting "WHY?!" in his face repeatedly until he confesses and breaks under the sheer force of my confused rage.

I don't know if I'll ever go back to it to be honest. I'm not really interested in any kind of Mass Effect themed game from now on either.

It's weird what 10-20 minutes can do

This used to be my favourite series ever :lol:

I'm already at The Illusive Man's base again on Insanity.

No ending can stop me playing through the real man's mode. 8-)

I'm glad they haven't given us a whole new ending. Yeah it was gooseberry fool but gooseberry fool happens.

Why is everyone saying that them saying they're not changing the ending we've already got mean that the indoctrination theory is rubbish? Could they not just stick an "and it was all a dream" cutscene onto the current ending, then have a load of cinematics of Shep activating the Crucible properly (without the star child and the illusive man...)? :shifty:

Skippy wrote:I'm glad they haven't given us a whole new ending. Yeah it was gooseberry fool but gooseberry fool happens.

Why? Genuinely interested to know.

Mafro wrote:

That guy is so goddamn annoying.

I like him.

Frank wrote:Why is everyone saying that them saying they're not changing the ending we've already got mean that the indoctrination theory is rubbish? Could they not just stick an "and it was all a dream" cutscene onto the current ending, then have a load of cinematics of Shep activating the Crucible properly (without the star child and the illusive man...)?

Because they are explaining how the Normandy got to that random planet with your crew.

On Twitter they have confirmed that nobody starves from lack of resources (they must have brought container ships of supplies with them into battle too!) and that rebuilding the Mass relays are possible (why make them explode then? :fp:

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To be honest even the Indoctrination Theory is crap. I was taught at primary school (PRIMARY SCHOOL) never to end a story on it was all a dream.

He has a point about them letting themselves in for another gooseberry fool storm though. The plot holes about how various characters got on to the Normandy etc were the least of their worries, so hoping that an extended ending sequence clarifying all the details about an ending that people hated because it was primarily thematically, narratively and ethically at odds with the driving force of the rest of the three-part series, rather than niggling plot holes, will placate the fans or negate the criticism is ludicrous.

But whatever at this point. They've shot themselves in the foot really. If they've left the ending open and ambiguous and speculative so that it's easier to connect it to as-yet unplanned dlc or sequels then it's a futile exercise if in doing so you kill anyone's desire to play said dlc/sequel! I think most of us can agree that enough hints were dropped about a dlc set on Omega, but does anyone really care now? I would have day1'd that gooseberry fool if I'd have been genuinely interested about how the outcome could affect the ending fight but when the major factor of the criticism is that nothing you've done has any effect on the ending, why would bother forking over £10 for a pointless mission?

From what they've said, this DLC thing is going to address the least of people's concerns regarding the ending. The stuff about why Joker was running away from battle, how is ended up on that planet, etc is almost trivial compared to the main issue that we all seem to have with the ending. I'd certainly welcome more cutscenes showing off the actual battle with the Reapers, that would be pretty cool. But unless they actually re-write what happens after Shepard and co get blasted (which they aren't)...then unfortunately for Bioware it's unlikely that people will be satisfied by this extended DLC.

Bioware could still surprise us I suppose so we have to wait and see. I know it's their series and they can end it how they want..but i still can't believe they went for that ending and thought it was a good idea. How rushed they were or how much influence EA had on the development and the ending, I guess we'll never know.

Tafdolphin wrote:
Skippy wrote:I'm glad they haven't given us a whole new ending. Yeah it was gooseberry fool but gooseberry fool happens.

Why? Genuinely interested to know.

They should stick to their guns and not cave into the pressure of fans with an inflated sense of entitlement. It was gooseberry fool but like I said gooseberry fool happens and people need to get over it. The developer should stick by what they did and retain some sense of integrity.

Skippy wrote:entitlement

Mafro wrote:
Skippy wrote:entitlement

Just finished this on Insanity.

Went with the blue explosion. 8-)

1050/1050

I still like the game up until the ending. And even then the music is awesome so it's hard to stay mad for too long.

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Mafro wrote:
Skippy wrote:entitlement

What?

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Skippy wrote:
Mafro wrote:
Skippy wrote:entitlement

What?

It's a word that's been banded around an awful lot recently, mainly by people who just don't get why the fans are so angry. I'm not saying you're one of them, but entitlement has nothing to do with it.

Games are not movies. Games are not TV shows. Games are not books. Games are a two way communication between the developer and the audience. Without the audience, a game is a pile of code sitting on a hard drive; a game requires audience input to function. Why should that not apply to something as universally reviled as the ME3 ending? I'm not saying the developers should be taking ideas from the fans, but I reject the argument that consumers shouldn't be allowed to complain about such a terrible resolution to a series, a series which has required many tens of hours of investment from them.

As I say, this Extended cut seems a half measure. That Angry Joe video put it perfectly: it's going to tell us why this gooseberry fool stinks as opposed to trying to get rid of the smell altogether. Frankly, I'd rather they didn't bother.

I'll rephrase then...

Skippy wrote:They should stick to their guns and not cave into the pressure of fans ~~with an inflated sense of entitlement~~ who are massive crybabies.

Again, really? When 90% of a consumer base is massively against something as important as a series resolution, does that count as the act of some crybabies? Why are they inherently wrong to complain?

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