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by KK » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:55 pm

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Police are searching for up to three gunmen who killed at least 14 people at a facility for disabled people in California.

Officers said there were also a dozen wounded in the attack at the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino.

It is still a "very active scene" and police were trying to find the suspects, said a police spokeswoman.

The gunmen may have fled the scene in a black SUV and may have had long guns, she said.

One man received a text from his daughter that said she was hiding inside the building, where she works.

Terry Petit told reporters his daughter wrote to him: "People shot. In the office waiting for cops. Pray for us. I am locked in an office."

President Barack Obama has responded to the shooting.

"One thing we do know is that we have a pattern of mass shootings in this country that has no parallel anywhere in the world," he said.

"There are some steps that we could take, not to eliminate all incidents, but to make sure they happen less frequently."

A local reporter tweeted that people were being evacuated from the Inland Regional Center, a medical and health organisation.

The organisation administers help to people with disabilities like autism and other mental health problems.

The shooting is happening less than a week after a shooting at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado left three people dead and nine people wounded.

People are being seen wheeled away on stretchers with medics and police officers in attendance.

CNN reports that area hospitals are receiving at least 15 patients from the shooting.

An employee of the centre told CNN that the building was holding an event for county personnel inside an auditorium when the shooting occurred.

Representatives from the FBI and the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms are on the scene.
No arrests have been made yet.

There are also unconfirmed reports of an explosive device at the scene.

Witnesses told CNN they heard rapid shooting coming from nearby the building.

Police confirmed a report that the suspects entered a conference room in the building and started shooting but had no further details.

There are three buildings on the campus with more than 600 employees total, said Kristin Myricks, an employee of the centre who did not go to work today.

The facility has had active gunman training in the past. Badges are needed to enter the facility.

And so the craziness continues.

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PostRe: Mass shooting in California; at least 12 dead; 3 heavily armed gunmen (pg28)
by Poser » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:13 pm

strawberry floating hell.

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PostRe: Mass shooting in California; at least 12 dead; 3 heavily armed gunmen (pg28)
by Alvin Flummux » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:13 pm

Republican victim blaming in 3... 2... 1...

Jupiter is in your sun sign this week, making it pretty crowded in there, what with Jupiter being the largest of the planets and all.
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PostRe: Mass shooting in California; at least 12 dead; up to 3 heavily armed gunmen (pg28)
by GrinWithoutaKat » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:42 pm

I've only ever heard of San Bernardino before... because of the Eagles of Death Metal song :s

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PostRe: Mass shooting in California; at least 12 dead; up to 3 heavily armed gunmen (pg28)
by bear » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:45 pm

Not sure why you'd put this in the Paris shootings thread.


I believe we already have a thread dedicated to American mass shootings. Which is every bit as strawberry floated up as that sounds.

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PostRe: Mass shooting in California; at least 12 dead; up to 3 heavily armed gunmen
by Memento Mori » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:57 pm

San Bernardino Police tell CBS News the shooting took place at the Inland Regional Center. The Center provides social services for those with developmental disabilities.


Christ.

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PostRe: Mass shooting in California; at least 12 dead; up to 3 heavily armed gunmen
by Captain Kinopio » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:00 pm

I wonder what it would actually take for public opinion in America to actually change on the gun control issue.

I guess it's not public opinion that matters really, is the whole system around gun laws in the US so strawberry floated up that nothing can turn it around?

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PostRe: Mass shooting in California; at least 12 dead; up to 3 heavily armed gunmen
by <]:^D » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:03 pm

what a surprise...

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PostRe: Mass shooting in California; at least 12 dead; up to 3 heavily armed gunmen
by Tomous » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:12 pm

Gobble Gobble wrote:I wonder what it would actually take for public opinion in America to actually change on the gun control issue.

I guess it's not public opinion that matters really, is the whole system around gun laws in the US so strawberry floated up that nothing can turn it around?


A lot of people think Columbine was the watershed moment for America where the country accepted kids shooting each. If they didn't reject that, there's pretty much nothing that will change the mindset now.

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PostRe: Mass shooting in California; at least 12 dead; up to 3 heavily armed gunmen
by Preezy » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:18 pm

Gobble Gobble wrote:I wonder what it would actually take for public opinion in America to actually change on the gun control issue.

I guess it's not public opinion that matters really, is the whole system around gun laws in the US so strawberry floated up that nothing can turn it around?

As I and some others have said in the other US Mass Shooting thread, if the Sandyhook school shooting - in which TWENTY CHILDREN were shot dead - didn't change anything with American gun law, then nothing will.

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PostRe: Mass shooting in California; at least 12 dead; up to 3 heavily armed gunmen
by KK » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:18 pm

Telegraph wrote:An FBI spokesman just told reporters that the agency has not yet been able to determine if the shooting was an act of terror.

"We do not know where the suspects are."

"Obviously at minimum we have a domestic terrorist type situation that took place here."

"They came prepared to do what they did. As if they were on a mission."

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PostRe: Mass shooting in California; at least 12 dead; up to 3 heavily armed gunmen
by PCCD » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:19 pm

"Now, if the victims had been armed..."

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PostRe: Mass shooting in California; at least 12 dead; up to 3 heavily armed gunmen
by Tomous » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:26 pm

Didn't it transpire there was an armed civilian at one of the recent big shootings at a University who decided against taking action because he didn't want to be mistaken as the bad guy by the police?

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PostRe: Mass shooting in California; at least 12 dead; up to 3 heavily armed gunmen
by Irene Demova » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:29 pm

It's hard to react to American shootings now, it's almost surreal how often they occur.

I know it's a big country but strawberry floating hell

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PostRe: Mass shooting in California; at least 12 dead; up to 3 heavily armed gunmen
by KK » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:29 pm

Talking head on CNN (a former FBI agent...at least according to him) said this sounds like 'anti-government militia' rather than ISIS.

SB County Sheriff/Telegraph wrote:Three people entered the building and began shooting.

One suspect "down", police frantically call for medical aid

The police have suspect's black SUV stopped, with one suspect in custody or otherwise incapacitated. Unfortunately, police have been shown calling for medical aid as at least one officer appears to have been shot.

A witness has said that another suspect fled on foot.

"We've definitely got one in the vehicle and another in the streets," one officer could be heard saying over the police scanner.

An armoured vehicle is en route to assist police with the operation.

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PostRe: Mass shooting in California; at least 12 dead; up to 3 heavily armed gunmen
by PaperMacheMario » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:31 pm

I mean this is a special kind of low. Unbelievable.

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PostRe: Mass shooting in California; at least 12 dead; up to 3 heavily armed gunmen
by chalkitdown » Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:45 am

This just happened on live TV. As horrible as this situation is, I couldn't help but laugh.

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PostRe: Mass shooting in California; at least 12 dead; up to 3 heavily armed gunmen
by Lotus » Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:27 am

strawberry float sake, I hate the news coverage of stuff like this; speculation, stupid questions, lack of sensitivity, the obsession with knowing every little detail no matter how irrelevant or tenuous...news has gone from reporting facts to regurgitating social media bullshit, rumours, asking inane questions, and fuelling incidents like this with its excessive coverage and promotion of it all.

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PostRe: Mass shooting in California; at least 12 dead; up to 3 heavily armed gunmen
by Heskimo » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:35 am

Touching Cowboy wrote:This just happened on live TV. As horrible as this situation is, I couldn't help but laugh.

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Hate to break it to you but that happened at least 2 years ago -

http://www.cracked.com/video_18651_the- ... r-job.html

It's featured at around 1:12 on that video from Oct 2013.

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PostRe: Mass shooting in California; at least 12 dead; up to 3 heavily armed gunmen
by KK » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:15 am

BBC News wrote:Police in California have named two suspects killed after a mass shooting which left 14 people dead at a social services centre.

The man and woman, Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27, were killed in an exchange of fire with police.

Farook had been a San Bernardino public health employee for five years, police chief Jarrod Burguan said.

The attack took place at an event on Wednesday for Farook's colleagues. None of the victims has been identified.

The Inland Regional Center, where the shooting took place, provides services for people with developmental disabilities, but the shooting appeared to be unrelated to its clients.

The incident marks the deadliest mass shooting in the US since 26 people were killed at a school in Newtown, Connecticut in 2012.

Mr Burguan, who said another 17 people were wounded, said police were "reasonably confident" that there were just two shooters.

A third person seen running from the scene was detained, but police said it was unclear whether that person was involved.

Both suspects were killed in their vehicle after a shoot-out with police involving 20 officers. A tip-off had earlier led police to a house in nearby Redlands.

The dead man and woman were believed to be a couple, the police chief said. They were armed with assault rifles and semi-automatic handguns and wore military-style clothing.

The US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) told the BBC two of the four guns recovered were linked to "an individual associated with this investigation". They are investigating the origin of the other two guns.

One police officer was injured, but his injuries are not life threatening.

Three possible explosive devices were found at the Inland Regional Center, where the shooting took place.

Mr Burguan said that Farook had left the event - which was possibly a holiday party for employees or a meeting - "under some circumstances that were described as angry," and returned with Malik.

Earlier, the FBI said it was not ruling out the possibility of terrorism but the situation was still being investigated.

San Bernardino is a city of about 200,000 people, 60 miles (100 km) east of Los Angeles.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34991855

Farhan Khan, Farook's brother-in-law, stood alongside local Muslim leaders late Wednesday evening expressing his sadness for the victims of the attack at the Inland Regional Center.

"Why would he do that? Why would he do something like this? I have absolutely no idea, I am in shock myself," Khan, who is married to Farook's sister, told reporters. He said he last spoke to Farook about a week ago.

Kahn said Farook and Malik had been married for about two years and had a six-month-old daughter. They lived with his mother, who was caring for the child today.

U.S. official tells CBS News this is a joint investigation between the FBI and the local police until a motive can be established.

The FBI says it's a possibility that the shooting is "terrorism," though it was too early to make any definitive conclusions.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/san-bernard ... ve-gunman/

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