Diabolito wrote:Cal wrote:Diabolito wrote:Wedgie wrote:So, Cal isn't a racist.
He only gets off due to a technicality. In his words Islam and Muslims aren't a race but a religion. Therefore him hating on them and saying stuff to help spread fear and hatred can't be racist which means he's not racist.
Just a bigot
Sadly, I can't say what I think of you - because that would be stooping to your level and I've got a feeling it's already a bit crowded down there in the gutter.
I don't know why you're resorting to personal attacks when what I have said is factually correct:
big·ot
\ˈbi-gət\
noun
: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)
Full Definition
:a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
It's factually correct that that is a description of a bigot.
Diabolito wrote:Sounds like a pretty accurate description of you and your opinions
But this is just pure abuse and typical hate mongering. I don't hate muslims. I don't refuse to accept them in our society. I am not prejudiced against anyone or anything apart from religiously-motivated murderers, kidnappers, rapists and thugs. I don't treat muslims with hatred and intolerance. I never have done and I never will.
You - and others here - should be ashamed of your continual abuses - based on nothing your own petty, quite spiteful prejudices. Every time one of you intimates that I might be a bigot or a racist you tell the forum more about your own hang-ups than any you might project onto me.
We've already established that a rational fear of violent Islamic extremism is not a bigoted or racist response to a very obvious danger. We know that it is right and fair in an open and free society to be critical of Islam - that is, if we are prepared to be even-handed in our approach to issues around free speech, tolerance, human rights, equality and so on. Islam is not beyond reproach, and it cannot be exempted from critical analysis because of a misplaced fear of being labelled 'racist' or 'bigoted' for daring to call it into question.
I have shown that there is a link between Islam and terrorism across the world. This is not a bigoted or a racist thing to say: it is an actual fact.
Yet you continue to subtly intimate that I must just be - at the very least - a bigot for holding these reasonable views and opinions. Nowhere have I called for any punitive actions against ordinary muslims, based on their religion, their culture, ethnicity or the colour of their skin (all of which we know is many and varied - globally). Do I think democratic nations have a duty to protect their values and their people against the dangers of Islam, its values and its intolerances? Absolutely I do. That's not a bigoted view - it's a view based on every day Islam. For instance, I don't think, in a free democratic nation which promotes equality for all, that Jeremy Corbyn should be addressing muslim meetings
in which women are segregated from men. I call that hypocritical cowardice. Either we stand up for our values and freedoms or we allow a creeping 'Islamification' of them to accommodate a culture and set of religious values that are continually (and often violently) at odds with our own. That is not a racist or a bigoted thing to say - it is a valid opinion. It is not a racist or a bigoted opinion.
Diabolito wrote:Band Aid Song wrote:What I learned in college is that racism is discrimination based on ethnicity, skin colour or cultural background.
Most people seem to see it that way i'd assume. Generally it tends to be racist people that get hung up on the technicalities of what defines race as a way of justifying their racist and bigoted views.
"Go back to your own country you raghead muzzer. Not racist cos its a religion innit"
Right, well thanks for those opinions of yours. And how does any of that relate to me? I haven't gotten 'hung up' on anyone's 'race' and I don't hold bigoted views on anyone, including muslims. As for that last bit about 'ragheads muzzers' - I'm speechless. I have certainly never, ever, said anything like that about muslims, so why are you quoting it in a response to me?
As I said, I won't be joining you in the gutter.