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Re: Metroidvanias

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:15 pm
by Squinty
One Metroidvania that always pops into my head when the discussion comes up is Guacamelee. It's so strawberry floating good, might be my favourite example of one.

Anyone who hasn't played it, get on it, it costs nothing on PC. I think it might be on sale on Humble for the price of a lunch time sandwich.

Re: Metroidvanias

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:38 pm
by Johnny Ryall
Clarkman wrote:Owlboy - Did not play more than 2 hours of this. Found it fiddly and frustrating.


Hmm was gonna buy this next payday. Might watch some videos first.

Re: Metroidvanias

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:10 pm
by Ironhide
Am I correct to class Wonderboy III as a Metroidvania?

It had several of the characteristics, mainly the backtracking to areas previously unreachable once you gain the required skills/items.

Re: Metroidvanias

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:36 pm
by 7256930752
Squinty wrote:One Metroidvania that always pops into my head when the discussion comes up is Guacamelee. It's so strawberry floating good, might be my favourite example of one.

Anyone who hasn't played it, get on it, it costs nothing on PC. I think it might be on sale on Humble for the price of a lunch time sandwich.

I knew I'd played another 2D metroidvania and couldn't remember it. Guacamelee is indeed awesome.

Re: Metroidvanias

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:08 pm
by Johnny Ryall
Ironhide wrote:Am I correct to class Wonderboy III as a Metroidvania?

It had several of the characteristics, mainly the backtracking to areas previously unreachable once you gain the required skills/items.


From what I've played of the remake definitely.

I need to try it again it was 80s tough (because duh).

Guacemelees style rubbed me the wrong way

Re: Metroidvanias

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:22 am
by Green Gecko
Shantae as is excellent

Re: Metroidvanias

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:23 am
by Parksey
I remember playing Circle of the Moon on the original GBA, not sure how my eyes didn't become so permanently strained that I ended up blind. It was a great game though - I'd love some GBA games to crop up on the Switch, like they did with the Wii U's, albeit hampered there by not being portable.

I love the two Steamworld Dig games too. The first one is more Rogue-like and the second is a more crafted, Metroid-style experience.

Darksiders doesn't have the tight, interconnected world design required for a Metroidvania. It's just an open world where you go to one point, finish the dungeon there and then rarely go back. Darksiders 2 has the backtracking but that's more for padding than clever game design.

Edit - Oooh yeah, I liked Guacamelee too. A little harder than most but probably nothing too bad compared to Hollow Knight.

Re: Metroidvanias

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:45 am
by deathofcows
Cave Story is a classic.

I'm sure you can still download the free original version on PC but it's probably worthwhile getting the snazzier Cave Story +, which is also on Switch.

It is top-tier Metroidvania, I reckon, with tight gameplay, a memorable soundtrack and a story that has real heart.

P.s. does Fez sort of kind of count as a fight-free Metroidvania? - because if so, that game is a beaut.

Re: Metroidvanias

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:14 am
by Lotus
Can't say I've played too many TBH. I loved Symphony of the Night - it's probably one of my favourite games - but I've played stuff like Shovel Knight and it did nothing for me at all.

I have a couple of the Steamworld games in my Steam library so I'll get around to them at some point. Might be one of those genres I like the idea of more than actually playing. :slol:

Re: Metroidvanias

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:35 am
by Saint of Killers
I loved Guacamelee (the sometimes complex finger gymnastics made up for the memes) but the genre isn't one I actively seek out. And although I have played them both a very long time ago, I have completed neither Metroid nor SotN. I got to the reverse castle in SotN, got lost, spent ages going back and forth and then gave up. I left Axiom Verge for similar reasons. Owl Boy has many goods things going for it, but I found it to be a little too much of a slow burn.

Re: Metroidvanias

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:01 pm
by Cheeky Devlin
This is the post where I show up and go on about the fact that Super Metroid is still (for me) the best Metroidvania game ever made, the best game on the SNES and my personal all-time favourite game. Barring some QOL stuff we would expect these days it's arguably perfect. :wub: :wub:

I've never spent enough time with a lot of the Castlevania ones, though SOTN is a legit classic. Fantastic artstyle, world and gameplay.

I've been dipping in and out of Hollow Knight, but I've yet to really "click" with it. It looks gorgeous, but I'm still waiting for that moment where I fall in love with it. Will persist though.

I still need to get back to Axiom Verge as well, though I fear I've lost my place in that game and might need to start again. :dread:

The more I think about them, the more I realise I've only played and completed a handful of these types of games. That includes all the Metroid games (bar the original, Prime 2: Echoes and the Metroid 2 remake, which I'm still dipping in and out of), Shadow Complex and a couple of others.

But it's arguably my favourite genre of games. It's definitely up there with the immersive-sim genre (Deus Ex, Dishonored etc) as a formula I just adore.

Re: Metroidvanias

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:39 pm
by imbusydoctorwho
Alien Infestation on the DS was a pretty dam good metroidvania game too.

The Tomb Raider reboots and God of War 2018 also has elements of metroidvania.

Re: Metroidvanias

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:53 pm
by Rapidly-Greying
Finish.Last wrote:I'm replaying Shadow Complex (the remastered version) as it's free on xBox at the moment - I think it's an excellent game.


I'll second that,it's fabulous and it's Nathan drake.

Outland on ps3 was a decent attempt too.

Re: Metroidvanias

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:32 pm
by Dangerblade
y'all need to play Kyntt Underground and La-Mulana if you haven't already

Re: Metroidvanias

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:07 pm
by ITSMILNER
Hime wrote:
Squinty wrote:One Metroidvania that always pops into my head when the discussion comes up is Guacamelee. It's so strawberry floating good, might be my favourite example of one.

Anyone who hasn't played it, get on it, it costs nothing on PC. I think it might be on sale on Humble for the price of a lunch time sandwich.

I knew I'd played another 2D metroidvania and couldn't remember it. Guacamelee is indeed awesome.


I really hope they bring Guacamelee to Switch at some point, loved that game :wub:

Re: Metroidvanias

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:32 am
by Squinty
ITSMILNER wrote:
Hime wrote:
Squinty wrote:One Metroidvania that always pops into my head when the discussion comes up is Guacamelee. It's so strawberry floating good, might be my favourite example of one.

Anyone who hasn't played it, get on it, it costs nothing on PC. I think it might be on sale on Humble for the price of a lunch time sandwich.

I knew I'd played another 2D metroidvania and couldn't remember it. Guacamelee is indeed awesome.


I really hope they bring Guacamelee to Switch at some point, loved that game :wub:


Guacamelee 2 is coming out this year. There's every chance the original game could end up on Switch for easy Switch monies.

Re: Metroidvanias

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:18 am
by ITSMILNER
Squinty wrote:
ITSMILNER wrote:
Hime wrote:
Squinty wrote:One Metroidvania that always pops into my head when the discussion comes up is Guacamelee. It's so strawberry floating good, might be my favourite example of one.

Anyone who hasn't played it, get on it, it costs nothing on PC. I think it might be on sale on Humble for the price of a lunch time sandwich.

I knew I'd played another 2D metroidvania and couldn't remember it. Guacamelee is indeed awesome.


I really hope they bring Guacamelee to Switch at some point, loved that game :wub:


Guacamelee 2 is coming out this year. There's every chance the original game could end up on Switch for easy Switch monies.


Hope so, I never played the super turbo release of the game, just the original.

Did anyone play the Super turbo release thing or just the original? Not sure what changes they made with the updated release




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Re: Metroidvanias

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:23 am
by Moggy
Shadow Complex, Guacamelee and Ori and the Blind Forest are three that I have really enjoyed over the last few years.

Re: Metroidvanias

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:07 pm
by deathofcows
Dangerblade wrote:y'all need to play Kyntt Underground and La-Mulana if you haven't already


I remember the Knytt games! Though I especially liked the more self contained episodes of Knytt Stories because of its experimental 'what if?' approach to the platforming. And the tune to This Level Remains Unfinished is still in my head to this day :)



Good shout!

Re: Metroidvanias

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:03 pm
by Johnny Ryall
I always get knytt and cave story mixed up in my head