Paid content in videogames (DLC, season passes, micro transactions and loot boxes)

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by Trelliz » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:53 am

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I'd hold fire for a bit, read the headline carefully: Belgium says loot boxes are gambling, wants them banned in Europe

I can't imagine David Davis hammering out lootbox policy at the negotiating table late into the night.

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by Tell Karl his brother is dead » Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:01 am

David Davis strikes me as the kind of man who "hammers it out" into a "loot box" he keeps in his fridge.

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by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:09 am

Trelliz wrote:
OrangeRakoon wrote::toot:

Faith in western democracy restored


I'd hold fire for a bit, read the headline carefully: Belgium says loot boxes are gambling, wants them banned in Europe

I can't imagine David Davis hammering out lootbox policy at the negotiating table late into the night.


His reaction would go something like this:

“Europe wants to ban lootboxes? Like pirates would have? Do we still have pirates? Why are Europe not attacking the damn pirates? Does Europe have no ships capable? This is why we need to leave and spend our money capturing pirate lootboxes! I had SAS (reserve) training you know, I could personally capture more pirate lootboxes than the whole of Europe put together!”

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by OrangeReindeer » Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:36 am

Trelliz wrote:
OrangeRakoon wrote::toot:

Faith in western democracy restored


I'd hold fire for a bit, read the headline carefully: Belgium says loot boxes are gambling, wants them banned in Europe


Without hyperbole I have nothing

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by Garth » Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:31 pm


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PostRe: Paid content in videogames (DLC, season passes, micro transactions and loot boxes)
by Garth » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:08 pm

Need for Speed Payback:
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Doesn't look anything like gambling! :slol:

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by jawafour » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:20 pm

Garth wrote:(Latest Jimquisition vid)

Not everyone likes Sterling’s style but you gotta hand it to the guy; he’s been a factor in shining a light on the gambling schemes that publishers use and it’s good to hear that pressure is now being put upon them.

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by darksideby182 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:51 pm

Garth wrote:Image

Doesn't look anything like gambling! :slol:

When the fun stops, stop.

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by Trelliz » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:46 pm

darksideby182 wrote:
Garth wrote:Image

Doesn't look anything like gambling! :slol:

When the fun stops, stop.


Does that require the fun to have started in the first place?

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PostRe: Paid content in videogames (DLC, season passes, micro transactions and loot boxes)
by Garth » Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:52 am

Over in Australia, Victoria's gambling regulator says loot boxes are gambling:
https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/11/victo ... -gambling/

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PostRe: Paid content in videogames (DLC, season passes, micro transactions and loot boxes)
by darksideby182 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:00 pm

Trelliz wrote:
darksideby182 wrote:
Garth wrote:Image

Doesn't look anything like gambling! :slol:

When the fun stops, stop.


Does that require the fun to have started in the first place?

Gamble aware advert.

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by Trelliz » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:01 pm

darksideby182 wrote:
Trelliz wrote:
darksideby182 wrote:
Garth wrote:Image

Doesn't look anything like gambling! :slol:

When the fun stops, stop.


Does that require the fun to have started in the first place?

Gamble aware advert.


I know, i was linking that to the implication that there is no fun in nfs payback to begin with.

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PostRe: Paid content in videogames (DLC, season passes, micro transactions and loot boxes)
by darksideby182 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:06 pm

Trelliz wrote:
darksideby182 wrote:
Trelliz wrote:
darksideby182 wrote:
Garth wrote:Image

Doesn't look anything like gambling! :slol:

When the fun stops, stop.


Does that require the fun to have started in the first place?

Gamble aware advert.


I know, i was linking that to the implication that there is no fun in nfs payback to begin with.

Never played the game I was just commenting on the fruit machine aspect lol.

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PostRe: Paid content in videogames (DLC, season passes, micro transactions and loot boxes)
by Saint of Killers » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:19 pm



Here we are with EA Sports UFC 3 which, according to the beta reports, is revolving around microtransactions to an absurd degree.

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by lex-man » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:15 pm

The thing about Fifa is that it's perfectly possible to play it with out getting involved with all the lootbox stuff. My understanding is that as soon as you want to play any kind of multiplayer Battlefront 2 stuff you have to get involved with the lootboxes.

Users should at least be given the choice of a non loot boxes centred multiplayer option. Like, they could have done a system where you play a movie themed scenario multiplayer without lootboxes and a full on everything goes lootbox bonanza mode.

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PostRe: Paid content in videogames (DLC, season passes, micro transactions and loot boxes)
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:50 am

lex-man wrote:The thing about Fifa is that it's perfectly possible to play it with out getting involved with all the lootbox stuff. My understanding is that as soon as you want to play any kind of multiplayer Battlefront 2 stuff you have to get involved with the lootboxes.

Users should at least be given the choice of a non loot boxes centred multiplayer option. Like, they could have done a system where you play a movie themed scenario multiplayer without lootboxes and a full on everything goes lootbox bonanza mode.


Yeah I agree with that. The ultimate team mode in FIFA is not something I have ever bothered with and have no need to ever touch as they have single player and multiplayer modes that don’t need the microtransaction bollocks.

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PostRe: Paid content in videogames (DLC, season passes, micro transactions and loot boxes)
by jawafour » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:54 am

Speaking with Nikkei Asia, Sony’s head of corporate planning Kazuhiko Takeda noted that the platform holder’s business model involves "working to get more customers paying continuously for content”.

We are moving towards a time when “buying” and “owning” a videogame will not really exist. We’ll pay-to-play and never actually have the game ourselves.

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by O Raxmas Tree » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:15 pm

jawafour wrote:Speaking with Nikkei Asia, Sony’s head of corporate planning Kazuhiko Takeda noted that the platform holder’s business model involves "working to get more customers paying continuously for content”.

We are moving towards a time when “buying” and “owning” a videogame will not really exist. We’ll pay-to-play and never actually have the game ourselves.

Hes not wrong but those times are here with things like Hearthstone and Dota, you dont own the game, you buy cards, costumes, skins etc if you want them, if you dont then you can keep your money in your pocket and play away just fine. The problem with what EA (and others) are doing is theyre charging up front for a game and on top of that they have a broken progression system that reiles on the player making a massive time commitment or sinking more money into it to do the stuff they want to do with it. If Battlefront and the other big offenders had been given away for free and the only charges were for loot boxes or currency or whatever then there likely would not have been a huge problem with paying for that stuff, the progression would still have been shitty but at least people would not have felt absolutely cheated by the game.

I dont think anyone can object to companies "working to get more customers paying continuously for content”, that just makes good business sense, the problems arise when the system put in place is massively unfair and designed to get people paying at every turn.

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PostRe: Paid content in videogames (DLC, season passes, micro transactions and loot boxes)
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:54 pm

O Raxmas Tree wrote:I dont think anyone can object to companies "working to get more customers paying continuously for content”, that just makes good business sense, the problems arise when the system put in place is massively unfair and designed to get people paying at every turn.


Those of us that just want to buy a game and play it will object. I don’t care if it is a good business decision for the developer/publisher, I don’t want to be playing all games on a subscription or microtransaction basis. It suits some games and some game modes, but it will be a sad day if it ever becomes the standard.

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