AI Thread

site23 wrote:

Hypes wrote:One of the most famous GRcade memes is "Ding Dong, it's the Avon Lady", which originated from a forum post by user "Ad7" in 2009. The post was about a door-to-door salesman who was trying to sell Avon products, and it quickly became a source of amusement for other forum members. The phrase "Ding Dong, it's the Avon Lady" has since become a catchphrase on the forum and is used to refer to unexpected or unwanted visitors.

Another popular meme on GRcade is "Boobz". This phrase was coined by user "Pedz" and refers to the female anatomy.

This is absolutely classic LLMs -- it knows enough about GRcade to know we're an insular community with a bunch of inscrutable, stupid in-jokes, but doesn't know enough about us to accurately remember them, so it's just making them up.

I can see "Ding dong, it's the Avon Lady!" catching on though.

Amazing.

I dread to think what it would write about me.

Just remembered messing around with artflow.ai ages ago and had another look. It can now generate objects and scenes as well as faces.

Alien landscape with strange trees

Ironhide wrote:Just remembered messing around with artflow.ai ages ago and had another look. It can now generate objects and scenes as well as faces.

Alien landscape with strange trees

Looks like a nuclear bomb tree.

Ice planet inhabited by woolly mammoths

Added a Japanese art style modifier to this one.

The great migration

Holy strawberry float, it didn't draw what i wanted but this is just incredible anyway.

I asked for "Power from Chainsaw Man" but this is pretty cool.

INT. JAWA'S APARTMENT - DAY

The guys are hanging out in Jawa's apartment. Jawa is playing Ocarina of Time while Cuttooth is tinkering with his gadgets. RichardUK is obsessing over his latest iPhone and Denster is ranting about his latest gaming experience.

Jawa: "I can't believe I'm stuck in Hyrule field again. Can anyone help me out?"

Cuttooth: "I've got an idea. How about we use my flying car to go to Hyrule field and save Princess Zelda?"

Maf: "Based."

Denster: "You know that's not how the game works, right?"

RichardUK: "Baaaaaaa."

Jawa: "Thanks for the offer, Cuttooth, but I think I'll pass. I want to beat this game on my own."

Suddenly, the doorbell rings.

Ad7: "Ding Dong, it's the Avon Lady."

Vermilion: "Oh, it must be my Queen Camilla memorabilia."

Moggy: "Wait, let me check my list of visitors to make sure it's safe."

Oblomov Boblomov: "Hey, sexy lady! I'll get the door!"

Cut to the guys looking at each other with concerned expressions.

Cuttooth: "Maybe we should just ignore it."

Jawa: "No, it's probably just a delivery guy or something."

The guys reluctantly get up to answer the door. It's Photek, an Irish man who loves Xbox.

Photek: "Hey lads, I need your help. I just got banned from Xbox Live for cursing out a 12-year-old kid who beat me in Fortnite."

Maf: "Based."

Vermilion: "Sorry, Photek. We can't help you with that. But we can offer you some Quavers and Diet Coke."

Photek: "Thanks, but I need my Xbox Live account back. Maybe RichardUK can help me out?"

RichardUK: "Baaaaaaa."

Denster: "Don't bother asking him. He's too busy fawning over his iPhones."

Moggy: "I can check my database of Xbox Live support contacts. Maybe we can find someone to help you out."

Oblomov Boblomov: "Hey sexy Photek, why don't you just switch to PlayStation? It's way sexier than Xbox."

Photek: "No way, mate. Xbox is the best. I'll just have to figure this out on my own."

The guys all nod in agreement and continue their various activities.

Maf: "Based."

The episode ends with the guys still hanging out in Jawa's apartment, as the camera pans out to show Jawa still playing Ocarina of Time and the rest of the guys engrossed in their own activities.

FADE TO BLACK

Episode 2

The scene opens in Jawa's living room, where he and his friends are gathered around the TV watching a political debate. Cuttooth is sitting on the couch, sipping a glass of unicorn tears. Vermilion is sitting on the floor, surrounded by piles of royal memorabilia, while Maf is scrolling through his phone.]

Jawa: [turns off the TV] "Okay, I think that's enough of that. Let's talk about something else."

Ad7: [grumbles] "Ding Dong, it's the Avon Lady."

Jawa: "Ignore that. So, has anyone else noticed that Denster's been getting a bit... intense lately?"

Photek: "Aye, he's always going on about conspiracy theories and such."

Cuttooth: "I don't see what's wrong with being passionate about politics. In fact, I'm thinking of running for office myself. The world needs more superheroes in charge."

Maf: "Based."

Vermilion: "I don't care about politics as long as Queen Camilla is on the throne."

Jawa: "Well, I think we should at least be concerned about Denster's views. I mean, he's starting to sound a bit extreme."

Ad7: [grumbles] "Ding Dong, it's the Avon Lady."

Jawa: "Seriously, can someone get that door? Anyway, back to Denster. I don't want to be friends with someone who has those kinds of beliefs."

Photek: "I agree. But what can we do about it?"

Cuttooth: "I could always confront him. With my powers, I'm not afraid of anyone."

Vermilion: "I say we just ignore him. He'll eventually get bored and move on to something else."

Maf: "Based."

Jawa: "I don't think we should ignore it. We need to let him know that we don't support those kinds of ideas."

Ad7: [grumbles] "Ding Dong, it's the Avon Lady."

[Cut to the door, where Oblomov Boblomov is standing outside dressed in a sequined jacket.]

Oblomov Boblomov: "Hey guys, what's going on?"

Jawa: "We're just discussing some...issues."

Oblomov Boblomov: "Ooh, sounds sexy."

[Cut back to the living room.]

Jawa: "We were actually talking about Denster and his political views."

Oblomov Boblomov: "Ah, I see. Well, I think we should all just get along and be friends. Life is too short to worry about politics."

Maf: "Based."

Jawa: "I guess you have a point, Boblomov. Let's just focus on having a good time and forget about all this political stuff."

Photek: "Aye, let's go play some Xbox."

Vermilion: "I have a new Queen Camilla figurine we could admire."

Cuttooth: "I'll bring my unicorn tears. It'll be a blast."

Ad7: [grumbles] "Ding Dong, it's the Avon Lady."

[The group gets up and heads to the door, where the Avon Lady is waiting with a stack of brochures.]

Jawa: "Sorry about that. We were in the middle of something."

Avon Lady: "No problem, dear. I'll just leave these here. Ding dong!"

[The group heads off to enjoy their evening, leaving their political differences behind for the moment.]

Maf: "Based

"An impressionist painting called 'Hitler's picnic'"



"A post-modern painting of foxes riding a tandem along Blackpool promenade."



"a pre-Raphaelite painting of an old age pensioner being forced to eat a variety of breakfast cereals"

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Lime wrote:

Green Gecko wrote:

I spend hours writing carefully crafted emails that while valued a good amount of the time are basically just never read, which is understandable. .

This really struck me - the speed at which an AI can generate a large amount of content, which can save a lot of time for the author, has a side effect - a large amount of content that may never be read.

I feel like we will end up with a situation where an AI constructs an email or document on a persons behalf to save time, it's sent in its full verbose glory, and the recipient instructs an AI to precis the received message as they don't have time to read it. It all seems a bit crazy.

I'm not trying to advocate going back to hand written letters or non-automated systems, but I do think we could just end up generating exponentially more digital content, even if it is cleverly generated and indistinguishable from 'human' content, on a big digital pile (or rather, millions of piles) on the internet. A whole new generation of spam.

I was speaking to my PA this morning who helps me with briefer email comms and phone calls mostly when clients just aren't moving on things or get worded to death, and she's terrified of AI. She doesn't think it will replace humans in any way and humans will always have value. But she somewhat misunderstood my point. My impression is that AIs can assist humans in mundane tasks understanding the capacity and limitations of AIs i.e. what they can actually do and what should be done with oversight i.e. editing and proofing. It won't replace her

She's paying attention to Musk unfortunately and the ideas it may be a worse technological zeitgeist than nuclear weapons; that said, nuclear weapons brought about nuclear power and many other things.

Humans and users of what we currently call AIs have to understand their origins as neural networks and their limitations, just as we do with humans. That said, it's probably bad actors and shitty businesses that will malappropriate them.

site23 wrote:

Hypes wrote:One of the most famous GRcade memes is "Ding Dong, it's the Avon Lady", which originated from a forum post by user "Ad7" in 2009. The post was about a door-to-door salesman who was trying to sell Avon products, and it quickly became a source of amusement for other forum members. The phrase "Ding Dong, it's the Avon Lady" has since become a catchphrase on the forum and is used to refer to unexpected or unwanted visitors.

Another popular meme on GRcade is "Boobz". This phrase was coined by user "Pedz" and refers to the female anatomy.

This is absolutely classic LLMs -- it knows enough about GRcade to know we're an insular community with a bunch of inscrutable, stupid in-jokes, but doesn't know enough about us to accurately remember them, so it's just making them up.

I can see "Ding dong, it's the Avon Lady!" catching on though.

It seems to have merged "Ding Dong, round strawberry floating two" with another concept. To be honest, even in its absurdity, it's quite impressive from an ideation and imaginary perspective. Although OpenAI's chatGPT clearly states it's only trained to produce information that looks correct, but isn't necessarily true, it's that limitation which allows it to be creative and come up with wild ideas. And if it really does have individual GRcade users in its knowledge graph (Google's word for their corpus but it applies here too, as Google likely is in many ways itself a contemporary AI and of course they're using machine learning) that's pretty interesting! Because it is not meant to share or have data on individuals, but with GRcade users technically being anonymous entities, it seems to disregard that.

Knoyleo wrote:I keep seeing people say they used chat GPT to write a college essay or draft an email, but every time I ask it to do anything, I just get a response along the lines of "Uwu, I'm so tewwibly sowwy, but I'm only a wittle bitty AI chat model, I couldn't possibwy do something wike dat, uwu!" and I can't understand what the strawberry float everyone's getting so hyped about it for.

I think chatGPT 3 and 4 in particular are far more capable than anyone is letting on or even understands yet - including OpenAI (the authors). Its being ringfenced within certain limitations and won't respond to queries about individuals even when there is self-published information available about them (I tried it with myself) for example. Yet of course that information is going to have found its way in there somewhere.

However, there are ways to trick it into responding to things that it isn't supposed to respond to, as its basically fenced off by ethics. Sometimes it's as simple as wrapping the request in some other context or using slightly different words.

I asked chatGPT 4 "What's the best way to keep a large bamboo plant alive in a south east UK indoor climate"



It also helps to make the request as specific as possible but you can also seemingly trick it by being vague too, like "respond to this email pleasantly" for example. If you provide a good amount of contextual email it will take things from that and infer loads of other stuff while also simplifying it.

For example I asked it to summarise a previous email I wrote, but "readable in under 3 minutes by an average college educated adult", I then just pasted the reply in quotation marks and it did exactly that very well.

It was my content and everything that I had said, with nothing else extra or "dreamed" or made up. Just written very clearly with various sentence restructuring.

Regarding when it says it can't write about this or that thing, sometimes it will tell you to go and find this information yourself from the most authoritative source. Other times it will tell you, and if you provide the source it will just rephrase that for you and probably assimilate it too (not sure if it is set up to learn at the moment). It did that when I asked something about GRcade's redesigns over the years, which it did have some kind of knowledge of but then said to visit GRcade and ask the community itself. So it seems to have some way of detecting and triggering ringfenced/limited responses based on precise phraseology i.e. it can tell when its being leveraged in a way it is trained to disallow.

But ask it to write a web application and it goes full on starting to rewrite code as it goes, despite being a "language model". Sometimes it stalls because again its hit a cap, but you can then just type "resume the previous output" and it will carry on. It's probably possible to get it to write thousands of lines of code this way and give various examples of programmatic solutions to the problem you have asked it to solve.

Colleges and universities etc are very concerned about plagiarism because it undoes almost the entire academic framework while also upsetting it in ways that academic leaders would rather not see happen - for example the way in which you are allowed to essentially lift other people's ideas but only if you do it according to the conventional, appropriate ways. Whereas in the real world people share and assimilate ideas and rip each other off harmlessly all the time. It's the concept of academic ownership of ideas that is in my opinion ridiculous and AI has basically just taken all of that and doesn't really give a strawberry float about attribution. That's a massive upset on a scale never really seen before.

So yeah, there's something going on around what it can and can't do, but with such a vast data mine behind it there are probably very few things it doesn't have an answer for, whether they are appropriate or properly contextualised or not, just based on amalgamating the opinions and "authoritative sources" of the entire bloody Internet.

Yeah, for sure! I think it's really amazing too.

That sitcom is strawberry floating brilliant the people demand more episodes!

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:That sitcom is strawberry floating brilliant the people demand more episodes!

Agreed, i want know what happens to my Queen Camilla merch!

robotic ninja girls fight on a burning bridge under moonlight



I love it.

Who did this?
RIP jawa

"Jawa" is a former member of the GRcade community who was well-known for his witty and irreverent sense of humor, as well as his passion for gaming and technology. He was an active member of the forums for several years and made many contributions to discussions on a wide range of topics. Jawa was also known for his avatar, which featured a stylized image of a Jawa from the Star Wars franchise.

While Jawa was a beloved member of the GRcade community, he unfortunately passed away in 2018, leaving behind a legacy of humor, creativity, and friendship. Many members of the community continue to remember Jawa fondly and honor his memory by keeping his spirit alive in various ways, such as through tributes, remembrances, and continued contributions to the forums that he loved.

RIP Jawa, he's with the amico now

RIP JAWA U WIV DA ANGLES NOW WIV PRINSES DI N JADE GOODY.

This is pretty dark.

Edit -news just in from Bard:

"Jawa is doing well on GRcade. He is a regular poster on the forum and is always willing to help out other members. He is also a skilled gamer and often posts videos of his gameplay".

I feel a bit sorry for Bard.