Moral Dilemmas 1: Restaurant Bills

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by Ecno » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:22 pm

Today me and 2 other people went out for lunch and after our main course they each ordered another Coke whilst I ordered cake (all from a different waitress to the one who did our original order) we then asked for the bill from our original waitress. Whilst my cake was on there their second Cokes were not. They seemed nonchalance about this and didn't want to say anything whilst I personally would have pointed it out if it had been my drink.

Personally I think realising this and then not saying anything is paramount to stealing and not moral, and I feel slightly guilty for being complacent in their rouse. But at the same time it would be far more awkward after discussing it for me then to say to the waitress you forgot to put their drinks on the bill.

What is the 'Cades point of view of the moral implications of not saying anything when presented with a restaurant bill you've been under charged on?

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PostRe: Moral Dilemmas 1: Restaurant Bills
by Skarjo » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:24 pm

Say nothing.

Leave bigger tip.

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PostRe: Moral Dilemmas 1: Restaurant Bills
by Christmas Name Change » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:24 pm

It depends on how good the service you got was as the waitress who cocked up will probably have to settle this out of her wage/tips.

So unless you gave her a massive tip, you have essentially done the opposite by knowingly not informing her that she's undercharged you.

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PostRe: Moral Dilemmas 1: Restaurant Bills
by Shadow » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:30 pm

Dan. wrote:It depends on how good the service you got was as the waitress who cocked up will probably have to settle this out of her wage/tips.


This isn't true. Firstly the shortfall in the bill would never come to light. If the drinks weren't entered into the till then the till wouldn't show as being short when cashed up. The only way the shortfall would come to light would be when a stock check is done and they are two Cokes short (this will never happen).

It is very rare (possibly illegal?) for staff to be held financially responsible for mistakes on tills.

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by kommissarboris » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:31 pm

Skarjo wrote:Say nothing.

Leave bigger tip.

strawberry float bitches.


This.

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by Christmas Name Change » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:32 pm

Shadow wrote:
Dan. wrote:It depends on how good the service you got was as the waitress who cocked up will probably have to settle this out of her wage/tips.


This isn't true. Firstly the shortfall in the bill would never come to light. If the drinks weren't entered into the till then the till wouldn't show as being short when cashed up. The only way the shortfall would come to light would be when a stock check is done and they are two Cokes short (this will never happen).

It is very rare (possibly illegal?) for staff to be held financially responsible for mistakes on tills.


Well, then I was wrong.

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by Oh Teh Noes » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:34 pm

Two Cokes are probably worth about 10p each. Don't sweat it.

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PostRe: Moral Dilemmas 1: Restaurant Bills
by Prototype » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:37 pm

Depends how big the company is.

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by Mommy » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:45 pm

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by Fatal Exception » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:50 pm

Say nothing. An Italian restaurant once under charged us by over £150. Stayed quiet. No regrets.

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by Mini E » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:51 pm

I had this almost exact situation in Marbella. there were 7 of us eating and drinking and our bill didn't contain the drinks. None of the others would pay and I felt crap about it so I put 10 euros in the owner's hand as we left as a tip (they'd given excellent, welcoming service) and it made me feel much better.

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by Mommy » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:51 pm

Fatal Exception wrote:Say nothing. An Italian restaurant once under charged us by over £150. Stayed quiet. No regrets.



Bet that was for 2 cokes too.

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by Turboman » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:53 pm

I would feel bad and point out the mistake/pay for what was missed off.

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by floydfreak » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:17 am

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PostRe: Moral Dilemmas 1: Restaurant Bills
by Slartibartfast » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:18 am

Oh Teh Noes wrote:Two Cokes are probably worth about 10p each. Don't sweat it.


This and the bigger tip.

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PostRe: Moral Dilemmas 1: Restaurant Bills
by 1cmanny1 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:34 am

Say nothing

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by chalkitdown » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:38 am

I bought €40 worth of petrol once, went to pay for it with a €50 and got €20 back. I said nathin'.

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by Turboman » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:48 am

1cmanny1 wrote:Say nothing

I see the convict gene hasn't left you Aussies!

Errkal wrote:It is amasing how people dont seem to be abel to do that.
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by Harman » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:01 am

chalkitdown wrote:I bought €40 worth of petrol once, went to pay for it with a €50 and got €20 back. I said nathin'.

I bought a drink in a bar that was £2.50, paid with a £20 and got £27.50 change. Kept quiet, no regrets.

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PostRe: Moral Dilemmas 1: Restaurant Bills
by Atreyu » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:07 am

Speak up, get the right bill, pay that. Simples.

Slight quibble with the thread title: this isn't really a moral dilemma. A moral dilemma would involve a conflict between two or more moral duties—for example, whether it's OK to steal a loaf of bread in order to feed your family—where you have to weigh up the relative strength of those duties and act accordingly.

This thread instead asks whether one 'should' do something wrong simply if one can get away with it. Not much of a test, really.

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