Memento Mori wrote:World's Finest isn't going to be in the same continuity as the Nolan Batman films.
Then I don't see the point. It makes bringing Nolan on-board for Man of Steel and sticking with the same tone as The Dark Knight Trilogy a hindrance rather than a help. If they bring out a film that says "here's Batman" within a few years of saying "Batman's dead/retired/this guy" and they don't use that successor or that backstory, they're going to confuse people. Most folks will immediately draw comparisons and expectations based on something they've just seen. It also means they can't use Christian Bale or Joseph Gordon-Levitt. It'd be a troll and add to the confusion.
The Nolan films worked because they explored a character and gave him an arc, by using Batman as a walk-on in a movie that should be about Superman (because it's not a reboot for Supes) it limits the screen time you can give to the whole Clark Kent side of things because you'll need to give a chunk of it to someone that doesn't need it. If Man of Steel needed anything, it was characters with a bit of depth. It just feels knee-jerk, rushed and unnecessary; in the wrong hands these two characters together can be a big, dumb mess. They're letting Snyder direct it, with the same team that made Superman a depressing, heartless mess. You're looking at over two hours of a joyless Superman and brooding Batman fight someone even more miserable than they are, all while gooseberry fool explodes and LOUD NOISES. That's jarring when you've spent the best part of a decade moving away from that and actually setting a new standard. I'm not a nerd about these things but it just seems fairly obvious they're running into a bunch of problems before they've even penned a script.
Memento Mori wrote:Why would that matter to Batman? He does his own investigations.
Well, you'd imagine the government would respond to the people - at least partly - so if they're all rainbows and kisses with Supes, it must mean the chaos and destruction has been accepted and people aren't telling him to sod off. So, why would Batman, who isn't from Metropolis, come to fight on behalf of those people and have a go at the alien? There's only one reason: he's a nosey bastard. There's no kryptonite because they reworked that bit of history, so all those easy-outs where Batman waves a glowstick are null and void. They're in a corner if they want him to square-go the Superman. He'll get telt in slow-mo - maybe they'll go all Dredd and make the shot of his brain being pulped in the blink of an eye last half an hour. Oh God, I'm giving him ideas.
Bane realised he wouldn't be able to beat Batman in a fight so he broke all the inmates out of Arkham and attacked Batman after he was weakened and exhausted from having to deal with his entire rogues gallery. When Bane fought Superman in an episode of STAS he got destroyed.
I was referring to The Dark Knight Rises. If Batman gets beaten up by Bane (he beat him in the second fight because...plotpoint or something) then in the same context, you wouldn't even see the 'fight' he'd have with Superman. Man of Steel still stuck with the understanding that he'll still be kicking around after we're all reduced to a football field of broken skulls.
