Movie News/Discussion Thread 2

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by Knoyleo » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:17 pm

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:Robin Hood is a British folkhero set over 700 years ago. This is a role that I think would have to be white male (or a Costner) to make any sense.

What about that time he was a cartoon fox?

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by Moggy » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:25 pm

EberKneesUp wrote:
Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:Robin Hood is a British folkhero set over 700 years ago. This is a role that I think would have to be white male (or a Costner) to make any sense.

What about that time he was a cartoon fox?


That's no way to talk about Russell Crowe.

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by Skarjo » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:17 pm

Yea, I've got no problem with there being a certain race heavily implied by circumstance (it would be difficult to argue for a white Black Panther, just as it would be difficult to have a black guy play Henry VIII), but even then, so long as there's some kind of justification for it then a different ethnicity is fine.

For instance, a lot of Shakespeare's plays have been updated and then had the ethnicities flipped from what would have been implied by the original text, but I don't think anyone had a problem with that.

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by Frank » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:22 pm

Was about to ask what the situation was with white actors playing Othello, but then I discovered that Patrick Stewart has played Othello in an entirely race-swapped production 20 years ago! Genuinely thought that was one of those roles that you weren’t allowed to mess with.

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by Ironhide » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:29 pm

EberKneesUp wrote:
Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:Robin Hood is a British folkhero set over 700 years ago. This is a role that I think would have to be white male (or a Costner) to make any sense.

What about that time he was a cartoon fox?


That is by far the greatest representation of Robin Hood we've ever had.

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by Banjo » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:46 pm

Skarjo wrote:Yea, I've got no problem with there being a certain race heavily implied by circumstance (it would be difficult to argue for a white Black Panther, just as it would be difficult to have a black guy play Henry VIII), but even then, so long as there's some kind of justification for it then a different ethnicity is fine.

For instance, a lot of Shakespeare's plays have been updated and then had the ethnicities flipped from what would have been implied by the original text, but I don't think anyone had a problem with that.


On that note however, the current run of Amadeus has Lucian Msamati playing Salieri (I had tickets to see it in February but unfortunately could not make it, but reviews have praised him highly) so I would argue that it's not out of the question to have roles traditionally thought of as white going to non-white actors. The cursory google search also brought up a few portrayals in comic book adaptations where race roles were played with that I had completely forgotten about (Michael Clarke Duncan as Kingpin, Michael B Jordan as Johnny Storm, Billy Dee Williams as Harvey Dent). Didn't even realise that in the original works both Agent J and Jackie Goddamn Brown were whities, so in those instances reframing the race portrayal was absolutely for the better.

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by KK » Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:00 pm

Just seen the trailer for The Commuter with Liam Neeson. It seems awfully like Non-Stop...also starring Liam Neeson. Except this new one is set on a train instead of a plane.

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by Memento Mori » Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:01 pm

KK wrote:Just seen the trailer for The Commuter with Liam Neeson. It seems awfully like Non-Stop...also starring Liam Neeson. Except this new one is set on a train instead of a plane.

It's based on a Phillip K Dick story. Channel 4 did an adaptation for their Electric Dreams series recently with Timothy Spall in the Neeson role.

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by Banjo » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:05 pm

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by Peter Crisp » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:38 pm

Preezy wrote:We should have a Chinese James Bond.


I think a Chinese Bond is more likely than one with a Norwich accent.
Most of my family are from near Norwich and it's got to be the least Bondy accent available in the UK.

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by Peter Crisp » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:40 pm

I just had a thought.
What if we offered the part to Trump but only if he resigns as President. I think he'd take that offer.

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by Preezy » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:55 am

Peter Crisp wrote:I just had a thought.
What if we offered the part to Trump but only if he resigns as President. I think he'd take that offer.

Do you expect me to talk? Because I will talk, I'm the best most eloquent talker, just beautiful how great I am at talking. Not like Crooked Hillary, she's a loser talker, a bigly lose talker, the bigliest. So important. Sad!

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by Slayerx » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:13 am

Ready Player One



Having recently finished the book I can't wait for this :)

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by Frank » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:20 pm



Wonder if Lin's accent will be anything as bad as Dick Van Dyke's.

Is Mary Poppins like a time lord then or something, considering the kids are older and she's the same age/a totally different looking person? :shifty:

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by Preezy » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:03 pm

A Mary Poppins sequel?

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by Mafro » Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:06 am

Whats with Annihilation getting a theatre release in the US but it's only on Netflix here in the UK and it's going up on Monday? Seems like a weird deal.

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by Tomous » Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:09 am

Mafro wrote:Whats with Annihilation getting a theatre release in the US but it's only on Netflix here in the UK and it's going up on Monday? Seems like a weird deal.


The film was released by Paramount Pictures in the United States on February 23, 2018.

Due to a poorly received test screening, David Ellison, a financier at Paramount, became concerned that the film was "too intellectual" and "too complicated", and demanded changes to make it appeal to a wider audience, including making Portman's character more sympathetic and changing the ending. Producer Scott Rudin sided with Garland in his desire to not alter the film, defending the film and refusing to take notes. Rudin had final cut.

On December 7, 2017, it was announced that due to the clashes between Rudin and Ellison, and the shift in Paramount's leadership, a deal was struck with Netflix handling international distribution. According to this deal, Paramount will handle the US and China release, while Netflix will begin streaming the film in other territories 17 days later

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by Corazon de Leon » Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:21 am

Preezy wrote:A Mary Poppins sequel?

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by Peter Crisp » Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:01 am

Tomous wrote:
Mafro wrote:Whats with Annihilation getting a theatre release in the US but it's only on Netflix here in the UK and it's going up on Monday? Seems like a weird deal.


The film was released by Paramount Pictures in the United States on February 23, 2018.

Due to a poorly received test screening, David Ellison, a financier at Paramount, became concerned that the film was "too intellectual" and "too complicated", and demanded changes to make it appeal to a wider audience, including making Portman's character more sympathetic and changing the ending. Producer Scott Rudin sided with Garland in his desire to not alter the film, defending the film and refusing to take notes. Rudin had final cut.

On December 7, 2017, it was announced that due to the clashes between Rudin and Ellison, and the shift in Paramount's leadership, a deal was struck with Netflix handling international distribution. According to this deal, Paramount will handle the US and China release, while Netflix will begin streaming the film in other territories 17 days later


Wow, a film maker with the balls to go up against a studio and keep a story as he intended it to be.
I was going to go to the cinema to see this and I'll certainly watch it on Netflix :D .

It's going to be interesting to see if this film is as complicated as the test screeners thought as it will be a refreshing change to see a challenging sci-fi film.

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by Buffalo » Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:24 am

Great reading! strawberry float Paramount.

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