National Farmers Union say they would have no problem implementing chlorine-washed chicken in the UK

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PostRe: RE: Re: National Farmers Union say they would have no problem implementing chlorine-washed chicken in the UK
by Dinoric » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:10 pm

Lagamorph wrote:
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Just eat Quorn.

Whoa there, let's not go Trump levels of batshit crazy here.

But Quorn tastes nice.

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by Rocsteady » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:13 pm

Quorn doesn't have enough fat in it to cook up nicely. It is edible though, just would never choose it over beef. Unless maybe gooseberry fool like this happens.

Were this to be brought in it'd get me out on the street for the first time ever. Especially now that I live out east EU regulations are so important, they ensure the food I eat's produced to a reasonable standard - strawberry float lax food standards, I've experienced it in numerous countries and due to my crohns it's an absolute disaster for me.

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PostRe: RE: Re: National Farmers Union say they would have no problem implementing chlorine-washed chicken in the UK
by Lagamorph » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:24 pm

Dinoric wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Just eat Quorn.

Whoa there, let's not go Trump levels of batshit crazy here.

But Quorn tastes nice.

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by Rightey » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:03 pm

mcjihge2 wrote:This is a symptom of things to come. Get used to it. Its all downhill now.

The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from. Which is why the Matrix was redesigned to this: the peak of your civilization.


I seriously think that the Matrix was right and that human civilization peaked in 1999.


Was GR around in 1999? Wikipedia says it was 2005, which I know for a fact is wrong. I don't think we can really consider it to have been peak humanity without some form of GR.

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PostRe: National Farmers Union say they would have no problem implementing chlorine-washed chicken in the UK
by That » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:04 pm

DailyRadar was launched in 1999, I think, off the top of my head.

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by Rightey » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:15 pm

Peak Humanity confirmed.

Edit: You lied!

This is what the Wayback machine has archived for May 10th 2000...

http://web.archive.org/web/200005100857 ... dar.co.uk/

It seems to have been launched sometime in the summer of 2000...

http://web.archive.org/web/200008150536 ... dar.co.uk/

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PostRe: National Farmers Union say they would have no problem implementing chlorine-washed chicken in the UK
by That » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:44 pm

Try .com.

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PostRe: National Farmers Union say they would have no problem implementing chlorine-washed chicken in the UK
by pjbetman » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:43 pm

This is a terrible thing to allow, as we all seem to agree. However, this is the tip of the iceberg - we are doing dozens of things already which are equally as bad.

For example, we already chlorinate our water supply - the water we drink, the water we wash our cutlery and plates in and the water we wash ourselves in. Chlorine is relatively inert whilst it is at low temps (e.g room temp) and we absorb very little of it even when we drink it (apparently). However, when it is heated (e.g in a shower or bath or even a public swimming pool) we are absorbing chlorine gas which is very harmful, and we absorb 50 times more of it as a gas than as a liquid.

I don't really want to get into GM crops because it'd turn into the Climate Change Thread all over again (sorry Cal). But what I will say is that ALL foods should be clearly stated with what their contents are. Unfortunately, we are deceived over this in almost everything we eat. There are 'clever' (read: devious) wordings/pseudonyms for some very unhealthy food additives and substances, so it is very difficult without a lot of knowledge to avoid some things in foods.

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PostRe: National Farmers Union say they would have no problem implementing chlorine-washed chicken in the UK
by satriales » Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:14 am

pjbetman wrote:I don't really want to get into GM crops because it'd turn into the Climate Change Thread all over again (sorry Cal). But what I will say is that ALL foods should be clearly stated with what their contents are. Unfortunately, we are deceived over this in almost everything we eat. There are 'clever' (read: devious) wordings/pseudonyms for some very unhealthy food additives and substances, so it is very difficult without a lot of knowledge to avoid some things in foods.

Totally agree with this, and the EU don't have a good record either (with their shady Monsanto deals) so this has been a problem regardless of Brexit.

For 15+ years I've suffered with a skin condition that comes and goes seemingly at random and that whole time I've been on all kinds of diets to try and find the trigger (if it is even a food trigger). One thing I suspect may be the cause is herbicides like Glyphosate which are apparently contaminating some breads and other foods. There is no way to tell which bread has been sprayed with it and so the only option is to avoid all bread, but then you don't know if something else in your diet may also be contaminated with the herbicide and so this makes it hard to test.

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PostRe: National Farmers Union say they would have no problem implementing chlorine-washed chicken in the UK
by pjbetman » Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:49 am

[quote="satriales"][quote="pjbetman"]I don't really want to get into GM crops because it'd turn into the Climate Change Thread all over again (sorry Cal). But what I will say is that ALL foods should be clearly stated with what their contents are. Unfortunately, we are deceived over this in almost everything we eat. There are 'clever' (read: devious) wordings/pseudonyms for some very unhealthy food additives and substances, so it is very difficult without a lot of knowledge to avoid some things in foods.[/quote]
Totally agree with this, and the EU don't have a good record either (with their shady Monsanto deals) so this has been a problem regardless of Brexit.

For 15+ years I've suffered with a skin condition that comes and goes seemingly at random and that whole time I've been on all kinds of diets to try and find the trigger (if it is even a food trigger). One thing I suspect may be the cause is herbicides like Glyphosate which are apparently contaminating some breads and other foods. There is no way to tell which bread has been sprayed with it and so the only option is to avoid all bread, but then you don't know if something else in your diet may also be contaminated with the herbicide and so this makes it hard to test.[/quote]

Yes, they have shown themselves to be pretty untrustworthy, particularly where there is a financial gain.

Trying to isolate a particular allergen is very difficult and can take years to work it out. You need to restrict your diet quite radically (for the average person that is) so that when you add suspected problem foods you will notice. Drinking fresh juice for breakfast, basic salads and homemade soups for lunch and something basic like potatoes, veg and chicken/fish (all organic btw except for the meat as it's hard to get hold of), and avoiding heavily processed foods (anything with more than a handful of ingredients is likely to muddy the waters for you). Another problem is that these allergen pathways can take days to manifest themselves, particularly in some wheat allergies. Usually though it is within 24 hours that the reaction is noted.


Having said all of that, most illness is caused (or heavily contributed) by a deficiency. 95% of us are malnourished. Zinc is a very important element, and many things we eat will destroy it - drinking, sugars, stress, copper (found in high concentrations in many 'healthy' foods such as nuts, avocado, grapes, raisins, lentils). The RDA is 15mg per day but some people (myself included) have had great success by increasing a daily dose to 75mg+. But I'm guessing of course, and I could well be wrong but it wouldn't do you any harm to try a simple zinc picolinate drops (without copper). Anyhow, if you want to discuss this you can always PM me. Cheers

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PostRe: RE: Re: National Farmers Union say they would have no problem implementing chlorine-washed chicken in the UK
by Fade » Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:28 am

Lagamorph wrote:
Dinoric wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Just eat Quorn.

Whoa there, let's not go Trump levels of batshit crazy here.

But Quorn tastes nice.

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The only Quorn stuff that tastes bad is the mince if you don't cook it properly. Quorn chicken tastes amazing, as do the sausages.


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