New Nintendo Platform: Codename NX

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by Alvin Flummux » Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:04 pm

Everything Iwata has been saying in interviews and whatnot lately seems, I hear, to hint at the next handheld and main systems sharing many features and being heavily compatible with one another. They will be very closely related, the design an evolution of the Wii U's system-gamepad relationship, hopefully superior to the PS4-Vita relationship, which apparently isn't as super great as the Wii U's setup.

Anyway, since there is likely to be an emphasis on cross and offscreen play, and given the possibility (I feel) that Nintendo will probably adopt its popular Pro Controller as its new base standard, we will likely see the next new handheld essentially be the new gamepad, with those crazy new screens, working as smoothly with the main system on off-screen play etc as the U, only with more range and its own host of games, with lots of shared features.

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by SEP » Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:36 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:Everything Iwata has been saying in interviews and whatnot lately seems, I hear, to hint at the next handheld and main systems sharing many features and being heavily compatible with one another. They will be very closely related, the design an evolution of the Wii U's system-gamepad relationship, hopefully superior to the PS4-Vita relationship, which apparently isn't as super great as the Wii U's setup.

Anyway, since there is likely to be an emphasis on cross and offscreen play, and given the possibility (I feel) that Nintendo will probably adopt its popular Pro Controller as its new base standard, we will likely see the next new handheld essentially be the new gamepad, with those crazy new screens, working as smoothly with the main system on off-screen play etc as the U, only with more range and its own host of games, with lots of shared features.


You think maybe the handheld could also offer "on-screen play", beaming the video to the console, which displays it on your TV? So you get off-TV play for your console games, and on-TV play for your handheld games?

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by Alvin Flummux » Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:44 pm

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Alvin Flummux wrote:Everything Iwata has been saying in interviews and whatnot lately seems, I hear, to hint at the next handheld and main systems sharing many features and being heavily compatible with one another. They will be very closely related, the design an evolution of the Wii U's system-gamepad relationship, hopefully superior to the PS4-Vita relationship, which apparently isn't as super great as the Wii U's setup.

Anyway, since there is likely to be an emphasis on cross and offscreen play, and given the possibility (I feel) that Nintendo will probably adopt its popular Pro Controller as its new base standard, we will likely see the next new handheld essentially be the new gamepad, with those crazy new screens, working as smoothly with the main system on off-screen play etc as the U, only with more range and its own host of games, with lots of shared features.


You think maybe the handheld could also offer "on-screen play", beaming the video to the console, which displays it on your TV? So you get off-TV play for your console games, and on-TV play for your handheld games?


Like the Gameboy Player for the GCN? Absolutely, why not? That doesn't sound like it should be too much harder to implement than switching screens on the U, especially if the two systems are being developed essentially as extensions of each other.

I also think that it might be possible for a person playing, say, Smash Bros, on the main platform, to play a multiplayer game with a person playing Smash on the handheld, as well perhaps as someone playing on another regular controller - cross-platform cross-play. It might be doable with several of them, even. That shouldn't be as taxing as having two gamepads for the U running simultaneously, as the handhelds would handle the bulk of the processing, rather than relying on the main system to do it all.

Ah Nintendo console speculation, how I've missed you!

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by SEP » Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:48 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:
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Alvin Flummux wrote:Everything Iwata has been saying in interviews and whatnot lately seems, I hear, to hint at the next handheld and main systems sharing many features and being heavily compatible with one another. They will be very closely related, the design an evolution of the Wii U's system-gamepad relationship, hopefully superior to the PS4-Vita relationship, which apparently isn't as super great as the Wii U's setup.

Anyway, since there is likely to be an emphasis on cross and offscreen play, and given the possibility (I feel) that Nintendo will probably adopt its popular Pro Controller as its new base standard, we will likely see the next new handheld essentially be the new gamepad, with those crazy new screens, working as smoothly with the main system on off-screen play etc as the U, only with more range and its own host of games, with lots of shared features.


You think maybe the handheld could also offer "on-screen play", beaming the video to the console, which displays it on your TV? So you get off-TV play for your console games, and on-TV play for your handheld games?


Like the Gameboy Player for the GCN? Absolutely.

I also think that it might be possible for a person playing, say, Smash Bros, on the main platform, to play a multiplayer game with a person playing Smash on the handheld, as wel perhaps as someone playing on another regular controller - cross-platform cross-play. It might be doable with several of them, even. That shouldn't be as taxing as having two gamepads for the U running simultaneously, as the handhelds would handle the bulk of the processing, rather than relying on the main system to do it all.

Ah Nintendo console speculation, how I've missed you!


And if the handheld natively had a qHD screen, it would upscale to 1080p nicely, and you could have 4-player splitscreen on your TV.

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PostRe: New Nintendo Platform: Codename NX
by jawafour » Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:57 pm

I love the idea that the NX would be a "TV and handheld" device, but the cost would be prohibitive. People would want a better-than-PS4-quality console and a better-than-tablet-quality handheld. With link-up, multi-player, cross-play and cross-saves. The package would cost around £650 :-).

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by SEP » Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:02 pm

jawafour wrote:I love the idea that the NX would be a "TV and handheld" device, but the cost would be prohibitive. People would want a better-than-PS4-quality console and a better-than-tablet-quality handheld. With link-up, multi-player, cross-play and cross-saves. The package would cost around £650 :-).


You can have a console, and you can have a handheld. You don't have to buy both, but if you do they work well together. The console itself would come with a Pro Controller type deal, and the handheld would have all the same inputs. That way you can have off-TV play if you want it, but it's not pushing the cost of the console up by essentially forcing it.

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by Alvin Flummux » Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:04 pm

NX could be the main system or a handheld, or both. Nintendo probably wouldn't release a super-costly joint system, unless they wanted to re-position themselves as the Apple of gaming, but they would released the two separately, after developing them together.

I imagine that they would be solid stand-alone systems, just fine on their own, but better together.

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by SEP » Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:05 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:NX could be the main system or a handheld, or both. Nintendo wouldn't release a super-costly joint system, but they would released the two separately, after developing them together.

I imagine that they would be solid stand-alone systems, just fine on their own, but, better together.


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by Victor Mildew » Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:27 pm

I wonder if they could be about to licence out their OS to other manufacturers? Think the way Saturn was also made by Panasonic etc.

That way you get nintendo games on phones/tablets without nintendo committing to hardware risk on those fronts, with the main console being the one that's made by nintendo themselves, which will then play the games you've bought on your non nintedo device.

They say they want to get people in to nintendo games via mobile, that could be the way of doing it.

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by SEP » Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:31 pm

Ad7 wrote:I wonder if they could be about to licence out their OS to other manufacturers? Think the way Saturn was also made by Panasonic etc.

That way you get nintendo games on phones/tablets without nintendo committing to hardware risk on those fronts, with the main console being the one that's made by nintendo themselves, which will then play the games you've bought on your non nintedo device.

They say they want to get people in to nintendo games via mobile, that could be the way of doing it.


Problem is, that has historically never worked. The main reason being that a huge amount of the profit is made in software, not hardware. If the software profits would be going to Nintendo, then another manufacturer would need to push the hardware price up to justify making it, as they would be getting none of the software money.

It's why the 3DO was so damned expensive.

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PostRe: New Nintendo Platform: Codename NX
by chalkitdown » Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:33 pm

gamerforever wrote:
Tomous wrote:Why would Sony be a better fit?

From a business perspective, with Nintendo's influence in Japan and Microsoft's in America, they'd be a better fit together.

Not that it's going to happen.


It would be like MS to go and buy a company, but Sony would give them room to develop games at their own pace and provide a more powerful system and wider demographic.


Jesus strawberry floating christ, stop posting!

And Sega made some of their best games ever after the Dreamcast died, what the strawberry float are you talking about?

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PostRe: New Nintendo Platform: Codename NX
by Alvin Flummux » Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:00 pm

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:Everything Iwata has been saying in interviews and whatnot lately seems, I hear, to hint at the next handheld and main systems sharing many features and being heavily compatible with one another. They will be very closely related, the design an evolution of the Wii U's system-gamepad relationship, hopefully superior to the PS4-Vita relationship, which apparently isn't as super great as the Wii U's setup.

Anyway, since there is likely to be an emphasis on cross and offscreen play, and given the possibility (I feel) that Nintendo will probably adopt its popular Pro Controller as its new base standard, we will likely see the next new handheld essentially be the new gamepad, with those crazy new screens, working as smoothly with the main system on off-screen play etc as the U, only with more range and its own host of games, with lots of shared features.


You think maybe the handheld could also offer "on-screen play", beaming the video to the console, which displays it on your TV? So you get off-TV play for your console games, and on-TV play for your handheld games?


Like the Gameboy Player for the GCN? Absolutely.

I also think that it might be possible for a person playing, say, Smash Bros, on the main platform, to play a multiplayer game with a person playing Smash on the handheld, as wel perhaps as someone playing on another regular controller - cross-platform cross-play. It might be doable with several of them, even. That shouldn't be as taxing as having two gamepads for the U running simultaneously, as the handhelds would handle the bulk of the processing, rather than relying on the main system to do it all.

Ah Nintendo console speculation, how I've missed you!


And if the handheld natively had a qHD screen, it would upscale to 1080p nicely, and you could have 4-player splitscreen on your TV.


8 player split screen - 4 on the TV, 4 on handhelds?

Dat clusterfuck

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by SEP » Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:08 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:Everything Iwata has been saying in interviews and whatnot lately seems, I hear, to hint at the next handheld and main systems sharing many features and being heavily compatible with one another. They will be very closely related, the design an evolution of the Wii U's system-gamepad relationship, hopefully superior to the PS4-Vita relationship, which apparently isn't as super great as the Wii U's setup.

Anyway, since there is likely to be an emphasis on cross and offscreen play, and given the possibility (I feel) that Nintendo will probably adopt its popular Pro Controller as its new base standard, we will likely see the next new handheld essentially be the new gamepad, with those crazy new screens, working as smoothly with the main system on off-screen play etc as the U, only with more range and its own host of games, with lots of shared features.


You think maybe the handheld could also offer "on-screen play", beaming the video to the console, which displays it on your TV? So you get off-TV play for your console games, and on-TV play for your handheld games?


Like the Gameboy Player for the GCN? Absolutely.

I also think that it might be possible for a person playing, say, Smash Bros, on the main platform, to play a multiplayer game with a person playing Smash on the handheld, as wel perhaps as someone playing on another regular controller - cross-platform cross-play. It might be doable with several of them, even. That shouldn't be as taxing as having two gamepads for the U running simultaneously, as the handhelds would handle the bulk of the processing, rather than relying on the main system to do it all.

Ah Nintendo console speculation, how I've missed you!


And if the handheld natively had a qHD screen, it would upscale to 1080p nicely, and you could have 4-player splitscreen on your TV.


8 player split screen - 4 on the TV, 4 on handhelds?

Dat clusterfuck


Not quite what I was thinking, but strawberry float it. I was thinking having 4 player splitscreen where all the console is doing is outputting the video. The console is barely involved at all, really. The 4 handhelds are doing all the work.

But hey, if Smash Bros can get away with an 8-player mode then rock on.

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by Alvin Flummux » Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:11 pm

Even if Smash isn't workable with that many players, Mario Kart would surely work, as well as Mario Party, Nintendoland etc.

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by SEP » Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:15 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:Even if Smash isn't workable with that many players


It is. Smash Wii U allows it (with 4 of the players being online).

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by Alvin Flummux » Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:41 pm

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:Even if Smash isn't workable with that many players


It is. Smash Wii U allows it (with 4 of the players being online).


Top banana.

I wonder if an Advance Wars type game might work with it? That series could really use bringing back, with swanky new graphics and such.

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PostRe: New Nintendo Platform: Codename NX
by Ironhide » Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:46 pm

My prediction of the NX is:

Single screen handheld as powerful as a Vita which can stream content to a TV via a Chromecast style dongle.
Games are downloads with no physical media
Extra handhelds can connect to dongle for multiplayer & game sharing

Of course it could be something entirely different, Nintendo's version of the Oculus Rift perhaps?

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by SEP » Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:47 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:Even if Smash isn't workable with that many players


It is. Smash Wii U allows it (with 4 of the players being online).


Top banana.

I wonder if an Advance Wars type game might work with it? That series could really use bringing back, with swanky new graphics and such.


That would be amazing. You could even have the handhelds broadcasting an overview map to the TV as an option during multiplayer.

Nintendo need to hire you, me and Jawa. We got this gooseberry fool down.

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PostRe: New Nintendo Platform: Codename NX
by Octoroc » Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:54 pm

I look forward to reading through all this in 18-24 months time.

The WiiU thread was a hoot.


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PostRe: New Nintendo Platform: Codename NX
by SEP » Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:55 pm

Octoroc wrote:I look forward to reading through all this in 18-24 months time.

The WiiU thread was a hoot.


This is my favourite time of any console cycle. Speculation and straight-up making gooseberry fool up is fun!

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