New PSP called "PSP Go!"?

kuliand wrote:

Shadow wrote:

kuliand wrote:

John Galt wrote:So is this a completely new device or is it what the DSi is to the DS?

Ye that's what i want to know if they are going to have a touch screen that games can use then it needs to be a whole new platform after all the psp is 5 years old now.

It didn't come out over here till September 05, so you're a little off.

I think your point is invalid anyway, why would Sony need to make a more powerful handheld? They've already got vastly superior tech to Nintendo, why shouldn't they just dress up the PSP in a new shell and add a bunch of new features? When games are download only developers will be right back on board as they won't have to worry about the piracy that dogged the UMD PSPs.

Also, your exact argument could be said of Nintendo and the DSi except replace "touch screen" with "camera".

Well it was out in december 2004 in japan so it is nearly 5 years old.

From what i have seen so far no games are using the DSI camera and if they do i will feel the same about it as i would about the touch screen for the new rumored psp. If you update a piece of hardware so that old machines can't play new games in my book you should create it as a whole new platform so everyone knows where they stand. On the specs yes it is more powerful than a DS but the iphone is said to have more power and who knows what MS could in the future with regard to releasing a hand held so if you are going to split your market you might aswell come out with a brand new platform with more power.

There are DS games which use the camera, at the moment they're download only, like the PSP ones will be, there's no fracture in the market because people with old machines can't download them anyway. Your book is wrong, it's wholly reasonable to add features to a piece of hardware through revisions, and adding more power is just a huge expense for everyone, it'll be tens of millions in development for Sony and then tens of thousands for developers who need to buy all new dev-kits and Nintendo have already proven that consumers don't give a gooseberry fool about graphics.

Extralife wrote:

Zenigame wrote:Sony should just give up in the handheld market. They tried and did ok for a while. But they just can't compete with the DS (and now iPhone) so should just concentrate on trying to make the PS3 better before that goes the way the PSP has.

Good thing you aren't running Sony.

Saying they should just abandon handhelds after investing so much effort and money in their first run is just crazy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost_fallacy

Should be an interesting E3, but strawberry float off with Analog nubs, all they do is hurt your hands.

DPAD or bust I say.

If Sony wants the PSP to succeed as a format, they should allow PSP games to played on large screen sony-ericsson phones. I don't think people want to carry multiple devices around with them.

Beans wrote:If Sony wants the PSP to succeed as a format, they should allow PSP games to played on large screen sony-ericsson phones. I don't think people want to carry multiple devices around with them.

They should integrate a Sony Ericsson phone within the PSP-Go!

TravelJug wrote:

Beans wrote:If Sony wants the PSP to succeed as a format, they should allow PSP games to played on large screen sony-ericsson phones. I don't think people want to carry multiple devices around with them.

They should integrate a Sony Ericsson phone within the PSP-Go!

I've been saying that ever since the App Store was launched.

TravelJug wrote:

Beans wrote:If Sony wants the PSP to succeed as a format, they should allow PSP games to played on large screen sony-ericsson phones. I don't think people want to carry multiple devices around with them.

They should integrate a Sony Ericsson phone within the PSP-Go!

Not gonna happen. A large proportion of PSP sales are from the teenage market who deem the DS as teh kiddy. A built in phone would raise the cost too much. You see more teens with ipod touches than iphones for a reason.

Also, people who already own an iPhone or a similair are hardly going to want to buy another phone just to play PSP games.

And what do I do with my UMD games? I'm all for a new device but Street Fighter alpha 3 still gets regular playitme in my PSP.

Shadow wrote:

kuliand wrote:

Shadow wrote:

kuliand wrote:

John Galt wrote:So is this a completely new device or is it what the DSi is to the DS?

Ye that's what i want to know if they are going to have a touch screen that games can use then it needs to be a whole new platform after all the psp is 5 years old now.

It didn't come out over here till September 05, so you're a little off.

I think your point is invalid anyway, why would Sony need to make a more powerful handheld? They've already got vastly superior tech to Nintendo, why shouldn't they just dress up the PSP in a new shell and add a bunch of new features? When games are download only developers will be right back on board as they won't have to worry about the piracy that dogged the UMD PSPs.

Also, your exact argument could be said of Nintendo and the DSi except replace "touch screen" with "camera".

Well it was out in december 2004 in japan so it is nearly 5 years old.

From what i have seen so far no games are using the DSI camera and if they do i will feel the same about it as i would about the touch screen for the new rumored psp. If you update a piece of hardware so that old machines can't play new games in my book you should create it as a whole new platform so everyone knows where they stand. On the specs yes it is more powerful than a DS but the iphone is said to have more power and who knows what MS could in the future with regard to releasing a hand held so if you are going to split your market you might aswell come out with a brand new platform with more power.

There are DS games which use the camera, at the moment they're download only, like the PSP ones will be, there's no fracture in the market because people with old machines can't download them anyway. Your book is wrong, it's wholly reasonable to add features to a piece of hardware through revisions, and adding more power is just a huge expense for everyone, it'll be tens of millions in development for Sony and then tens of thousands for developers who need to buy all new dev-kits and Nintendo have already proven that consumers don't give a **** about graphics.

well surely if only people who own the new console can play the new games with the camera features etc then that is a fractured market.

I don't mind new features is they are not used in games but otherwise i think it is better to make it clear and say this is a psp 2 and when you do that it makes sense to bump the specs a little bit which wouldn't cost 10s of millions for sony or the devs as they could just be sent new software for development as i doubt you need a powerful dev machine for a psp game and sony could take the cost of sending the devs debug units.

The reason i think it needs to be new and more powerful platform is that MS could this year or next come out with an xbox handheld with more power and better features which would then leave sony in a tough place.

As for people not caring about graphics im not sure that is true of every casual gamer i think once sony and MS have motion control on there home consoles in the future they will do better than nintendo nexts home console unless the innovate again.

Extralife wrote:Also, people who already own an iPhone or a similair are hardly going to want to buy another phone just to play PSP games.

Speaking as a previous owner Id expect most iphone owners want to purchase another device for some decent games. The iphone is OK as a Bus Stop gaming device but it has nothing with the depth of Disgaea, Pokemon or War of the Lion to really make me take notice.

Until the iphone gets some 'proper' games its nothing more than a faster java handset by comparison.

kuliand wrote:
well surely if only people who own the new console can play the new games with the camera features etc then that is a fractured market.

Not from the consumers perspective, games which use new features are not available to people on old machines, there's no confusion over it, there will be PSP Go! games which use the touchscreen, and there will be PSP games which don't. This is exactly what Nintendo have done and no-one complained about that or 360 games where some features require a HDD.

I don't mind new features is they are not used in games but otherwise i think it is better to make it clear and say this is a psp 2

But then they are definitely fracturing the market and killing off the existing market, which it is clear that Sony don't want to do.

and when you do that it makes sense to bump the specs a little bit which wouldn't cost 10s of millions for sony or the devs as they could just be sent new software for development as i doubt you need a powerful dev machine for a psp game and sony could take the cost of sending the devs debug units.

That's just mentalbabble, of course PSP development requires a (very expensive) dev kit, I'd have thought that was obvious, and if you're changing the specs of the machine a software update won't change the specs of the dev kit.

The reason i think it needs to be new and more powerful platform is that MS could this year or next come out with an xbox handheld with more power and better features which would then leave sony in a tough place.

Did Sony bringing out a more powerful hand held leave Nintendo in a "tough place"

As for people not caring about graphics im not sure that is true of every casual gamer i think once sony and MS have motion control on there home consoles in the future they will do better than nintendo nexts home console unless the innovate again.

Conjecture, but I think you're wrong again and have completely misjudged the amount of work Nintendo have put into building their brand whilst Sony and MS have been going out of their way to destroy theirs.

Exclusive: Sony PSP Go! Storage Tech Revealed



Sources close to Sony PSP development have hinted to Game On what Sony's planning to stick in its rumored smaller, sleeker PSP Go!. Remember this CES 2009 press release back in January? The one where SanDisk revealed a panoply of tinier, higher-speed memory products? Think those. Think specifically the trailing bullet point, the one where Sony and SanDisk "have co-developed two expanded Memory Stick formats." Think something like the Memory Stick HG-Micro, with a 60MB/s transfer rate, approximately 40MB/s faster than original Memory Stick Duo.

As for all the folks reporting the PSP Go!'s will include dedicated internal flash memory, they may want to think again.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/164202/a ... =nl_goxblg

It better be backwards compatible with older Memory sticks. I just bought an 8gb duo.

If it doesn't have built in flash memory then I may not buy one. It depends what else they change.

Nook29 wrote:If it doesn't have built in flash memory then I may not buy one. It depends what else they change.

This.