Nextbox Rumours : Final Predictions & Hopes/Dreams

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Publishers say to Microsoft thanks for protecting our interests, have exclusivity on our product because we know we are getting paid for every single copy ever sold, suddenly the next GTA or Call Of Duty is only on Nextbox.......that drives sales.

Publishers go where the consumers go. Consumers aren't going to go where they can't trade in their games. Sure, publishers could try the exclusivity thing, but they'd very quickly change their minds when they realise there's no-one to sell their games to in the first place.

[satriales]

Publishers say to Microsoft thanks for protecting our interests, have exclusivity on our product because we know we are getting paid for every single copy ever sold, suddenly the next GTA or Call Of Duty is only on Nextbox.......that drives sales.

If that was true then the opposite would have happened this gen. The 360 was hacked n' cracked early on it's life and the DVD drive made it easy enough for people to download games and get them working on their console, but the PS3 was not been hacked until recently and so for many years games were pirated on the 360 but not on the PS3. Even now blu-ray makes it more difficult to pirate games on the PS3 than the 360.

[Rik]

Publishers say to Microsoft thanks for protecting our interests, have exclusivity on our product because we know we are getting paid for every single copy ever sold, suddenly the next GTA or Call Of Duty is only on Nextbox.......that drives sales.

If that was true then the opposite would have happened this gen. The 360 was hacked n' cracked early on it's life and the DVD drive made it easy enough for people to download games and get them working on their console, but the PS3 was not been hacked until recently and so for many years games were pirated on the 360 but not on the PS3. Even now blu-ray makes it more difficult to pirate games on the PS3 than the 360.

You seem to have totally missed the point

We weren't talking about piracy, we're talking used sales for starters which is no different between any machine this gen.

[Rik]

Publishers say to Microsoft thanks for protecting our interests, have exclusivity on our product because we know we are getting paid for every single copy ever sold, suddenly the next GTA or Call Of Duty is only on Nextbox.......that drives sales.

Publishers go where the consumers go. Consumers aren't going to go where they can't trade in their games. Sure, publishers could try the exclusivity thing, but they'd very quickly change their minds when they realise there's no-one to sell their games to in the first place.

We're talking about new generation of consoles, consumers haven't gone anywhere yet.

You think the 15 million people who buy Call Of Duty every year would abandon it if they couldn't trade the game? They play it all year online so it wouldn't be an issue to them, they will go to the console that plays it and if it was exclusive to Nextbox they would go there.

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You think the 15 million people who buy Call Of Duty every year would abandon it if they couldn't trade the game? They play it all year online so it wouldn't be an issue to them, they will go to the console that plays it and if it was exclusive to Nextbox they would go there.

They'd just play something else instead. Consumers are a fickle bunch, and should not be underestimated. To think they'll follow blindly is the first step to failure. Look at what happened to the PS3 at launch, for example. Sony thought Playstation fans would buy it regardless of price and launch date. Said fans bought 360s instead. Complacency kills.

[chalkitdown]

I wonder what Rik would think if this rumoured news was in relation to the PS4 and not the Nextbox..........

[Rik]

I wonder what Rik would think if this rumoured news was in relation to the PS4 and not the Nextbox..........

I don't support the move at all personally, I'm just showing how publishers might view it.

[Garth]

Another Nextbox rumour from Xbox World:

The next Xbox will be a matt-black media hub with a mission to bring games to life in your living room with augmented reality, directional sound, and a four-player finger-tracking Kinect. We told you all that last month. This month, our sources tell us it will have a touchscreen, too.

Microsoft are experimenting with a tablet-like controller with a shape closer to Sony's sleek Vita handheld / Apple's iPad than Wii U's bulky unit - it's an HD screen surrounded by the traditional 360 buttons and sticks.

On 360 that touchscreen will be second only to Kinect in how you operate your console. It could be a remote control when you're watching TV, a browser when you're on the internet, extra buttons and information when playing a game or a portable display when you want to take your game with you.

Expect to see the next Xbox at E3 this June.

[Delusibeta]

I'm trying to think how they're going to pull that off without looking like a blatant Wii U rip-off.

[Codename 47]

I'm trying to think how they're going to pull that off without looking like a blatant Wii U rip-off.

That's what i'm thinking as well. I suppose Microsoft could say Kinect 2.0 is Xbox 3's main USP, but the tablet thing does sound very WiiU like. If it is true though, interesting to hear that it's a lot smaller than the WiiU's controller - or at least the WiiU controller that's been shown off so far. It's not an impossible rumour...but the first thing they're going to be asked is 'how is this different from the WiiU controller?'. If it is true, it could maybe make consumers think 'oh Xbox 3 comes with a tablet like the WiiU does AND Kinect, it seems like we're getting more with this'

Personally though I think they should stick with a slightly refined 360 controller and Kinect 2.0.

[bear]

I'm trying to think how they're going to pull that off without looking like a blatant Wii U rip-off.

Would they care though?

[BID0]

You think the 15 million people who buy Call Of Duty every year would abandon it if they couldn't trade the game? They play it all year online so it wouldn't be an issue to them, they will go to the console that plays it and if it was exclusive to Nextbox they would go there.

They'd just play something else instead. Consumers are a fickle bunch, and should not be underestimated. To think they'll follow blindly is the first step to failure. Look at what happened to the PS3 at launch, for example. Sony thought Playstation fans would buy it regardless of price and launch date. Said fans bought 360s instead. Complacency kills.

It's a bit different this time. Everyone is tied into Live. All of your friends are on it. All of your DLC is on it.

Not being able to trade in games won't be that much of a big deal to people.

[KK]

Remember when everyone laughed at Sony when they revealed the Sixaxis? It'll be like that all over again.

But then MS might be feeling left out, as Wii U's controller has a screen, & Sony have the Vita which can do a similar job (though nobody has announced anything on that front yet).

[BID0]

Doesn't Windows Phone do that already? Albeit in a basic way.

I've not tried connecting mine with the Xbox though so have no idea what it is like.

[Something Fishy]

I wonder what Rik would think if this rumoured news was in relation to the PS4 and not the Nextbox..........

I don't support the move at all personally, I'm just showing how publishers might view it.

I reckon that , if it happens, it'll happen to both as the publishers push them to do it.

[Zellery]

Doesn't Windows Phone do that already? Albeit in a basic way.

I've not tried connecting mine with the Xbox though so have no idea what it is like.

It does.

If you download Xbox companion you can use your Windows Phone as a remote for your 360.

[Meep]

Touchscreen seems a bit redundant if Kinect 2.0 comes as standard.

[Bertie]

You think the 15 million people who buy Call Of Duty every year would abandon it if they couldn't trade the game? They play it all year online so it wouldn't be an issue to them, they will go to the console that plays it and if it was exclusive to Nextbox they would go there.

They'd just play something else instead. Consumers are a fickle bunch, and should not be underestimated. To think they'll follow blindly is the first step to failure. Look at what happened to the PS3 at launch, for example. Sony thought Playstation fans would buy it regardless of price and launch date. Said fans bought 360s instead. Complacency kills.

It's a bit different this time. Everyone is tied into Live. All of your friends are on it. All of your DLC is on it.

Not being able to trade in games won't be that much of a big deal to people.

Wrong! I think it's only the elitest lar-de-dar pc gamers who are convinced it's a non issue! I think, many, including MS would be in for a shock! The fact that in here, the split on the other topic is 50-50 is reason enough to support that. Go and ask those in game/cex and see what the stats say!

I have no sense of loyalty and regardless of live and dlc, I'll go to the platform that best suits my needs. Including pc if the benefits of console ownership are severely dented.

[BID0]

You think the 15 million people who buy Call Of Duty every year would abandon it if they couldn't trade the game? They play it all year online so it wouldn't be an issue to them, they will go to the console that plays it and if it was exclusive to Nextbox they would go there.

They'd just play something else instead. Consumers are a fickle bunch, and should not be underestimated. To think they'll follow blindly is the first step to failure. Look at what happened to the PS3 at launch, for example. Sony thought Playstation fans would buy it regardless of price and launch date. Said fans bought 360s instead. Complacency kills.

It's a bit different this time. Everyone is tied into Live. All of your friends are on it. All of your DLC is on it.

Not being able to trade in games won't be that much of a big deal to people.

Wrong! I think it's only the elitest lar-de-dar pc gamers who are convinced it's a non issue! I think, many, including MS would be in for a shock! The fact that in here, the split on the other topic is 50-50 is reason enough to support that. Go and ask those in game/cex and see what the stats say!

I have no sense of loyalty and regardless of live and dlc, I'll go to the platform that best suits my needs. Including pc if the benefits of console ownership are severely dented.

Elitest lar-de-dar pc gamers? Really? Just look at the other topic, most people wouldn't care and that's at buying a game at £40!

You're probably too old for Live to affect your console choice. I'd say the biggest usergroup are kids in highschool. They will buy what all their friends buy, just look at what happened to the 360 this gen.

[Bertie]

You think the 15 million people who buy Call Of Duty every year would abandon it if they couldn't trade the game? They play it all year online so it wouldn't be an issue to them, they will go to the console that plays it and if it was exclusive to Nextbox they would go there.

They'd just play something else instead. Consumers are a fickle bunch, and should not be underestimated. To think they'll follow blindly is the first step to failure. Look at what happened to the PS3 at launch, for example. Sony thought Playstation fans would buy it regardless of price and launch date. Said fans bought 360s instead. Complacency kills.

It's a bit different this time. Everyone is tied into Live. All of your friends are on it. All of your DLC is on it.

Not being able to trade in games won't be that much of a big deal to people.

Wrong! I think it's only the elitest lar-de-dar pc gamers who are convinced it's a non issue! I think, many, including MS would be in for a shock! The fact that in here, the split on the other topic is 50-50 is reason enough to support that. Go and ask those in game/cex and see what the stats say!

I have no sense of loyalty and regardless of live and dlc, I'll go to the platform that best suits my needs. Including pc if the benefits of console ownership are severely dented.

Elitest lar-de-dar pc gamers? Really? Just look at the other topic, most people wouldn't care and that's at buying a game at £40!

You're probably too old for Live to affect your console choice. I'd say the biggest usergroup are kids in highschool. They will buy what all their friends buy, just look at what happened to the 360 this gen.

Fair point, follow the crowd! It's those kids that turned me away from COD. I still reckon its underestimating the demand..... Time will tell, maybe!