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PostNGamer issue 60
by Fruits Punch Samurai » Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:06 pm

Pilotwings Resort cover and free badges, magnets and a Pilotwings poster.

Previews (anticipation out of 5):
The Last Story 5/5
Inazuma Eleven 3/5
Kingdom Hearts 3D Dream Drop Distance 3/5
Virtua Tennis 4 3/5
Doctor Lautrec And The Forgotten Knights 3/5
Conduit 2 4/5
Lego Pirates Of The Caribbean 4/5
Rodea The Sky Soldier 4/5
Ikenie No Yoru 4/5
Pac-Man and Galaga Dimensions
Dual Pen Sports
Lego Ninjago
Tales Of The Abyss
Rio
Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure
Spongebob Squigglepants
Gundam: The 3D Battle
Dream Trigger 3D
Bikkuriman

3DS Feature with previews and reviews:

Pilotwings Resort 75% Must Buy
Super Monkey Ball 3D Maybe Buy
PES 2011 3D Must Buy
Super Street Fighter IV 87% Must Buy
Ridge Racer 3D Must Buy
Samurai Warriors Chronicles Maybe Buy
Nintendogs and Cats 80% Must Buy
Lego Star Wars III The Clone Wars Maybe Buy
Rayman 3D Maybe Buy
The Sims 3 Maybe Not
Asphalt 3D Maybe Not
Splinter Cell Chaos Theory Maybe Buy
Ghost Recon Maybe Buy

Reviews:

De Blob 2 87%
Ni No Kuni Shikkoku No Madoshi 84%
UDraw Studio 65%
Dood's Big Adventure 50%
Pictionary 69%
Zombie Daisuki 80%
Haunted House 25%
Jewel Link Chronicles: Legend Of Athena 51%
Dragon Ball Kai: Ultimate Butouden 73%
Bermuda Triangles: Saving The Coral 54%
Magic Encyclopedia II: Moonlight 52%
Naruto Shippuden: Shinobi Rumble 40%
Pucca's Race For Kisses 61%

Wiiware/Dsiware

Shantae Risky's Revenge 5/5
Pucca's Kisses Game 2/5
TNT Racers 2/5

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PostRe: NGamer issue 60
by Mafro » Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:32 pm

Have they said anything at all about Splinter Cell 3DS? From what I gather, neither that or Rayman 3D have been shown off for previews. Not a good sign at all.

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PostRe: NGamer issue 60
by Fruits Punch Samurai » Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:10 pm

Rayman 3D is a port of the Dreamcast version but with 3D and widescreen aspect ratio. Not much else is known other than it uses the slider and the original game was decent enough. Splinter Cell has Conviction style presentation for missions with the words on walls. That's all they know though.

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PostRe: NGamer issue 60
by superfurryfox » Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:37 pm

I get what they say about Pilotwings being a great way to show off the new consoles 3D but to me a 75% rated game is NOT a "Must Buy"

Love the honesty over SSF4, I have a superior version already so not getting this. The only thing I am looking forward to on the 25th is the 3DS camera/

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PostRe: NGamer issue 60
by Somebody Else's Problem » Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:49 pm

superfurryfox wrote:I get what they say about Pilotwings being a great way to show off the new consoles 3D but to me a 75% rated game is NOT a "Must Buy"


From what I played, it's much, much more than a 75% game. My ability to form my own opinions regardless of review scores means I shall definitely be buying it.

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PostRe: NGamer issue 60
by bear » Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:53 pm

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superfurryfox wrote:I get what they say about Pilotwings being a great way to show off the new consoles 3D but to me a 75% rated game is NOT a "Must Buy"


From what I played, it's much, much more than a 75% game. My ability to form my own opinions regardless of review scores means I shall definitely be buying it.


How much of it did you play?
For all we know the review might well say that it plays well but then marks it down for lacking content or something like that.

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PostRe: NGamer issue 60
by Fruits Punch Samurai » Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:53 pm

They said they finished it near to 100% in under two hours. Had a few more items to find and some better ranks to obtain.

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PostRe: NGamer issue 60
by HSH28 » Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:59 pm

Fruits Punch Samurai wrote:They said they finished it near to 100% in under two hours. Had a few more items to find and some better ranks to obtain.


I don't believe them.

Whole 3DS section sounds kind of pointless to me.

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PostRe: NGamer issue 60
by Fruits Punch Samurai » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:01 am

Why don't you believe them?

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PostRe: NGamer issue 60
by bear » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:01 am

Fruits Punch Samurai wrote:They said they finished it near to 100% in under two hours. Had a few more items to find and some better ranks to obtain.

Well thats disappointing. I know its a common enough thing that console launch games are lacking in content but if Nintendo do want to demonstrate a high value of game software like Iwata said during GDC I don't think releasing a €40 game that can be beat in a few hours is the right way of showing that.

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PostRe: NGamer issue 60
by Somebody Else's Problem » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:04 am

HSH28 wrote:
Fruits Punch Samurai wrote:They said they finished it near to 100% in under two hours. Had a few more items to find and some better ranks to obtain.


I don't believe them.

Whole 3DS section sounds kind of pointless to me.


If you're only playing for the missions and collectables, sure. But let's face it, we all spent more time in Birdman mode than doing missions in 64, and the same will hold true for Free Flight Mode in Resort.

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PostRe: NGamer issue 60
by HSH28 » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:06 am

Fruits Punch Samurai wrote:Why don't you believe them?


I read other reviews that didn't mention it.

I mean its a high score/trial run game, so its not going to be massively long on a straight run through.

Are the missions timed? Is it possible they've just added up those results on all the missions to get that 2 hour time or something.

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PostRe: NGamer issue 60
by Fruits Punch Samurai » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:06 am

Looking at how much left they had to do for 100% I'd say it looks to be a 3 hour game if there hour and forty five minutes is accurate for completing all the missions and most of the collectables but not to full ranks. It still looks like great fun, just not great value. The game also seems lacking in features with only one island, no online leaderboards, streetpass or spotpass, no skydiving, no birdman, no cannon, no multiplayer.

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PostRe: NGamer issue 60
by HSH28 » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:07 am

Its not a 3 hour game. Thats a nonsense way of describing the length of a game like that.

You might as well describe Rez as a 1 and a half hour game, it doesn't mean anything.

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PostRe: NGamer issue 60
by Fruits Punch Samurai » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:10 am

It should be a pack in or a cheaper downloadable game. While you can replay it, 30-40 quid is terrible value for such a short length to clear all the games objectives. Rez cost me five quid to download thereabouts.

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PostRe: NGamer issue 60
by Somebody Else's Problem » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:11 am

Fruits Punch Samurai wrote:It should be a pack in or a cheaper downloadable game. While you can replay it, 30-40 quid is terrible value for such a short length to clear all the games objectives.


Way to completely miss the whole point of the game.

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PostRe: NGamer issue 60
by HSH28 » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:12 am

Fruits Punch Samurai wrote:While you can replay it, 30-40 quid is terrible value for such a short length to clear all the games objectives.


I don't believe they did in anything like that time frame.

EDIT - Theres 20-30 hours play time in Rez by the way.

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PostRe: NGamer issue 60
by Fruits Punch Samurai » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:12 am

What is the point of the whole game? The free roam mode is timed too and that's where all the collectables hide. To me the game seems to be a set of challenges and collecting. You can't share these high scores with friends, online or even across save files on the same cart so it doesn't seem to promote getting those best scores and the free roam is restricted to a time limit.

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PostRe: NGamer issue 60
by Mafro » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:19 am

Fruits Punch Samurai wrote:What is the point of the whole game? The free roam mode is timed too and that's where all the collectables hide. To me the game seems to be a set of challenges and collecting. You can't share these high scores with friends, online or even across save files on the same cart so it doesn't seem to promote getting those best scores and the free roam is restricted to a time limit.

Have you played either of the previous Pilotwings games?

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PostRe: NGamer issue 60
by Matthew, natch » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:41 am

I'd ask whether Monster Games played either Pilotwings games. Yes, THOSE games came alive outside the missions, but this Pilotwings places an entirely arbitrary time limit on free flight mode. By collecting tokens you can boost it from two minutes to four minutes (or thereabouts). A whole four minutes! That's not even enough time to do a circuit of the island.

I didn't write the review, but I did play through it and come to exactly the same conclusions as Kittsy. It's a tragic shame that something that handles so well and looks so lovely should be over in a casual afternoon's play. It remains the finest 3D showcase (of the launch games), earning it that 'must buy' tag, but this is Nintendo at their laziest. It feels like one tiny part of Wii Sports Resort, resold for £35. Not cool.

Doubt our time all you want, we took the overall flight time from the detailed in-game statistics screen.


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