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PostRe: NHS England hit by cyber attack, phone and IT systems down
by Somebody Else's Problem » Sat May 13, 2017 4:32 pm

satriales wrote:A security guy has found that by registering a certain domain he has activated a killswitch in this ransomware that stops further new cases.


What a hero!

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PostRe: NHS England hit by cyber attack, phone and IT systems down
by Return_of_the_STAR » Sat May 13, 2017 5:26 pm

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:
satriales wrote:A security guy has found that by registering a certain domain he has activated a killswitch in this ransomware that stops further new cases.


What a hero!


Yeah ive just been reading about it. You could imagine though him registering the domain and then an hour later security services kicking his door down thinking that he was responsible for the whole thing.

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PostRe: NHS England hit by cyber attack, phone and IT systems down
by mcjihge2 » Sat May 13, 2017 5:30 pm

Hunt and May should be prosecuted over thier incompetence on this.

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PostRe: NHS England hit by cyber attack, phone and IT systems down
by satriales » Sun May 14, 2017 7:30 am

mcjihge2 wrote:Hunt and May should be prosecuted over thier incompetence on this.

Yeah, in 2015 the Conservatives cancelled a contract to keep the NHS computers up to date without replacing it with anything.
Labour run the Welsh NHS and have kept those NHS computers maintained so they weren't affected by this.

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PostRe: NHS England hit by cyber attack, phone and IT systems down
by massimo » Sun May 14, 2017 9:17 am

satriales wrote:
mcjihge2 wrote:Hunt and May should be prosecuted over thier incompetence on this.

Yeah, in 2015 the Conservatives cancelled a contract to keep the NHS computers up to date without replacing it with anything.
Labour run the Welsh NHS and have kept those NHS computers maintained so they weren't affected by this.


I did not know that.

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PostRe: NHS England hit by cyber attack, phone and IT systems down
by Green Gecko » Sun May 14, 2017 9:49 am

Am I safe if I'm on a Mac?

The conclusion to BBC1 News was hilarious on this. "Basically, it's possible the computers will have gone very wrong."

It sounded like something out of The Day Today.

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PostRe: NHS England hit by cyber attack, phone and IT systems down
by Return_of_the_STAR » Sun May 14, 2017 9:53 am

massimo wrote:
satriales wrote:
mcjihge2 wrote:Hunt and May should be prosecuted over thier incompetence on this.

Yeah, in 2015 the Conservatives cancelled a contract to keep the NHS computers up to date without replacing it with anything.
Labour run the Welsh NHS and have kept those NHS computers maintained so they weren't affected by this.


I did not know that.


Wow what a goldmine for labour. Surely they won't miss a trick on this. Sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm.

The tories would have been all over labour if this happened on their watch.

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PostRe: NHS England hit by cyber attack, phone and IT systems down
by satriales » Sun May 14, 2017 11:27 am

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
massimo wrote:
satriales wrote:
mcjihge2 wrote:Hunt and May should be prosecuted over thier incompetence on this.

Yeah, in 2015 the Conservatives cancelled a contract to keep the NHS computers up to date without replacing it with anything.
Labour run the Welsh NHS and have kept those NHS computers maintained so they weren't affected by this.


I did not know that.


Wow what a goldmine for labour. Surely they won't miss a trick on this. Sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm.

The tories would have been all over labour if this happened on their watch.

Corbyn did mention it in a speech he made but most of the media selectively quoted from that speech and conveniently missed that part out.

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PostRe: NHS England hit by cyber attack, phone and IT systems down
by Return_of_the_STAR » Sun May 14, 2017 11:32 am

satriales wrote:
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
massimo wrote:
satriales wrote:
mcjihge2 wrote:Hunt and May should be prosecuted over thier incompetence on this.

Yeah, in 2015 the Conservatives cancelled a contract to keep the NHS computers up to date without replacing it with anything.
Labour run the Welsh NHS and have kept those NHS computers maintained so they weren't affected by this.


I did not know that.


Wow what a goldmine for labour. Surely they won't miss a trick on this. Sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm.

The tories would have been all over labour if this happened on their watch.

Corbyn did mention it in a speech he made but most of the media selectively quoted from that speech and conveniently missed that part out.


Yeah they will do this. I've nopined this over the past decade. But labour should keep pressing it, mentioned it at every available opportunity. It's like when the tories successfully managed to pin the world financial crisis onto labour and labour just sat there and took it. They didn't seem to fight back just sat there like naughty children being told off then a few years later they went along with it and tried to say that was the fault of the other labour guys not us. The tories are leaps and bounds ahead of them when it comes to things like this.

Sorry this has gone a bit off topic. I realised today at work how my forces computers all run Windows 7. I wonder how vulnerable they are to future attacks.

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PostRe: NHS England hit by cyber attack, phone and IT systems down
by massimo » Sun May 14, 2017 1:44 pm

Green Gecko wrote:Am I safe if I'm on a Mac?

From this particular exploit, yes as it's a windows XP vulnerability. Who knows what other macOS based Zero days have been leaked from the NSA and are now out in the wild though.

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PostRe: NHS England hit by cyber attack, phone and IT systems down
by Alvin Flummux » Sun May 14, 2017 2:00 pm

How can I, a lowly Win10 Home prole, tell if my computer may be vulnerable to such nefarious shenanigans? The checker thingy says the OS is up-to-date, but I'm sure that's not the only metric.

Jupiter is in your sun sign this week, making it pretty crowded in there, what with Jupiter being the largest of the planets and all.
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by lex-man » Sun May 14, 2017 2:06 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:How can I, a lowly Win10 Home prole, tell if my computer may be vulnerable to such nefarious shenanigans? The checker thingy says the OS is up-to-date, but I'm sure that's not the only metric.


Below is a link to the patch you'd need to stop from being vulnerable to this attack. It was released three months ago so you should be fine.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/lib ... aa970312fc)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-mC26Ai1RgPs8y1VWNfdDKw)()

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PostRe: NHS England hit by cyber attack, phone and IT systems down
by Alvin Flummux » Sun May 14, 2017 2:08 pm

lex-man wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:How can I, a lowly Win10 Home prole, tell if my computer may be vulnerable to such nefarious shenanigans? The checker thingy says the OS is up-to-date, but I'm sure that's not the only metric.


Below is a link to the patch you'd need to stop from being vulnerable to this attack. It was released three months ago so you should be fine.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/lib ... aa970312fc)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-mC26Ai1RgPs8y1VWNfdDKw)()


Would Windows Update have downloaded and installed it automatically?

Jupiter is in your sun sign this week, making it pretty crowded in there, what with Jupiter being the largest of the planets and all.
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PostRe: NHS England hit by cyber attack, phone and IT systems down
by lex-man » Sun May 14, 2017 2:18 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:
lex-man wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:How can I, a lowly Win10 Home prole, tell if my computer may be vulnerable to such nefarious shenanigans? The checker thingy says the OS is up-to-date, but I'm sure that's not the only metric.


Below is a link to the patch you'd need to stop from being vulnerable to this attack. It was released three months ago so you should be fine.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/lib ... aa970312fc)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-mC26Ai1RgPs8y1VWNfdDKw)()


Would Windows Update have downloaded and installed it automatically?


Yes.

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by Alvin Flummux » Sun May 14, 2017 2:20 pm

lex-man wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:
lex-man wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:How can I, a lowly Win10 Home prole, tell if my computer may be vulnerable to such nefarious shenanigans? The checker thingy says the OS is up-to-date, but I'm sure that's not the only metric.


Below is a link to the patch you'd need to stop from being vulnerable to this attack. It was released three months ago so you should be fine.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/lib ... aa970312fc)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-mC26Ai1RgPs8y1VWNfdDKw)()


Would Windows Update have downloaded and installed it automatically?


Yes.


Oh thank strawberry float. I've been getting increasingly nervous about this lately.

Hopefully this mass attack is the last we see of its kind.

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PostRe: NHS England hit by cyber attack, phone and IT systems down
by Gently-Parted Ringpiece » Sun May 14, 2017 2:40 pm

Win 10 isnt affected is it?

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by Return_of_the_STAR » Sun May 14, 2017 3:25 pm

Gently-Parted Ringpiece wrote:Win 10 isnt affected is it?


Ive only read about xp being affected. What slightly confuses me is I though Microsoft discontinued supporting xp a year or more ago but I've read articles that Microsoft released a fix for this vulnerability 3 months ago and those systems affected simply hadn't updated to the latest patches. Does anyone know if that's correct?

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PostRe: NHS England hit by cyber attack, phone and IT systems down
by Lagamorph » Sun May 14, 2017 3:32 pm

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
Gently-Parted Ringpiece wrote:Win 10 isnt affected is it?


Ive only read about xp being affected. What slightly confuses me is I though Microsoft discontinued supporting xp a year or more ago but I've read articles that Microsoft released a fix for this vulnerability 3 months ago and those systems affected simply hadn't updated to the latest patches. Does anyone know if that's correct?

General support for Windows XP was discontinued but companies could purchase ongoing support if they wanted, though it was expensive to do so, so new patches are still being developed for it.

I think Microsoft have now released a patch for this specific exploit for Windows XP/Server 2003 for everyone though.

Seems unclear if other operating systems may be affected or not, though you can secure yourself further by disabling SMB v1 (It amazes me Microsoft still have this enabled by default) as I believe that's required for the exploit. I think that newer operating systems (including Windows 10) were technically vulnerable, but only if you haven't patched since February.

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/msr ... t-attacks/

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PostRe: NHS England hit by cyber attack, phone and IT systems down
by lex-man » Sun May 14, 2017 5:19 pm

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
Gently-Parted Ringpiece wrote:Win 10 isnt affected is it?


Ive only read about xp being affected. What slightly confuses me is I though Microsoft discontinued supporting xp a year or more ago but I've read articles that Microsoft released a fix for this vulnerability 3 months ago and those systems affected simply hadn't updated to the latest patches. Does anyone know if that's correct?


The vulnerability that was used by this attacked was patched in March so it's possible to get this thing on all windows os's. Although if you have Windows 7/8 or 10 you should have already patched the vulnerability. Windows 10 wasn't specifically targeted by this Malware.

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PostRe: NHS England hit by cyber attack, phone and IT systems down
by Green Gecko » Sun May 14, 2017 6:12 pm

massimo wrote:
Green Gecko wrote:Am I safe if I'm on a Mac?

From this particular exploit, yes as it's a windows XP vulnerability. Who knows what other macOS based Zero days have been leaked from the NSA and are now out in the wild though.

Thanks. Would you recommend Linux?

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