Nintendo Labo | Labo VR kit coming April 2019 (See page 14)

Tafdolphin wrote:

Photek wrote:

Poser wrote:

Photek wrote:I’m not sure you’re getting Brers point Tom.

Well, Brer seems to be stressing that it's not good for him personally, but then also saying it's a stupid idea generally.

I can accept the first part, but not the latter.

Why not?

If it doesn't take off is it then retrospectively a stupid idea?

Absolutely not. It's a stunningly brave move by Nintendo to expand what a games console can be. If it fails, it fails but this will be a commercial failure, not a creative one.

I won't be buying it but I also think it's a fantastic idea that could only have come from Nintendo.

Indeed, commercial success is in no way the defining factor in whether something is good or not.

Random tangent example (as I've just been watching the Doctor Who episode about this) - the works of Vincent van Gogh. Unsuccessful and largely considered as a crazy failure in his lifetime, but that nobody bought or appreciated his art at the time doesn't stop the fact that what he produced was some of the most incredible works of art the world has ever seen.

Jenuall wrote:I simply cannot fathom the lack of perspective that would prevent people from seeing this for the slice of absolute genius which it obviously is.

Sorry, I forgot this is a Nintendo product and we aren't allowed to have any criticisms.

This reminds me of those 'build your own princess castle' type sets that grandparents buy your kids for Christmas. My kids love craft stuff too but this seems to be a very small return of enjoyment for the money. Do I need this kit for my kids to pretend to be a robot? I can use an old cardboard box and some paint for a fraction of the price. I mean, sure you get a basic game in there too but I'm not sure I need the Switch component to make this work.

Like I said earlier I'm impressed that Nintendo is allowing you to print these out for free, but I'm not sure where the need is to put your new £60 controllers in to make it move.

Took this from that Guardian piece.

The piano, especially, is quite amazing, and takes about two hours to build. The infrared camera on the Joy-Con controller can see reflective strips of tape on the back of the keys, which come into view when a key is pressed, telling the game software to play the right note. Cardboard dials and switches modify the tone and add effects to the sound.

Hands on 'review' from Daily Telegraph:-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gaming/featu ... oard-toys/

more heat than light wrote:

Jenuall wrote:I simply cannot fathom the lack of perspective that would prevent people from seeing this for the slice of absolute genius which it obviously is.

Sorry, I forgot this is a Nintendo product and we aren't allowed to have any criticisms.

This reminds me of those 'build your own princess castle' type sets that grandparents buy your kids for Christmas. My kids love craft stuff too but this seems to be a very small return of enjoyment for the money. Do I need this kit for my kids to pretend to be a robot? I can use an old cardboard box and some paint for a fraction of the price. I mean, sure you get a basic game in there too but I'm not sure I need the Switch component to make this work.

Like I said earlier I'm impressed that Nintendo is allowing you to print these out for free, but I'm not sure where the need is to put your new £60 controllers in to make it move.

Nothing is above criticism, however there is a difference between reasoned debate on the flaws of a new product and saying something is gooseberry fool just because it doesn't appeal to someone personally (even though it had been made clear beforehand who the product was aimed at ). I'm not saying you have done this personally - just a general comment on some of the responses to this announcement.

It is a clever idea - it does interesting things with the Switch hardware, it promotes creativity and practical engineering skills in kids, it encourages kids to get involved in something more than just sitting at a screen, it provides an insight into the workings of the toys which are being created which will hopefully foster further experimentation and learning. I can't understand how anyone could see that as a bad thing.

It's not just about taping some bits of card together to make a robot suit (although that is a great activity to do with kids!) it is taking that kind of practical craft and creativity to a level that allows understanding of more engineering skills to be explored - how does the robot work? what does this bit do? How does it know when I've moved etc. Kids today are inundated with toys and activities that just require them to do something, or even just sit and watchsomething - press a button to make the car go etc. this is a great way to get them more involved in understanding how stuff works and to explore that together.

Sure some kids may not want it at all, or only play with it for 5 minutes, but that is true of so many things already. Not everyone likes Lego or Meccano - or maybe they like it enough to build it once and that's it forgotten. But there are plenty of others who will be fascinated but the same toy and find endless ways to play with it time and time again.

Photek wrote:What a pile of complete wank.

Not on Xbox, must be gooseberry fool. Amirite?

still wrote:Hands on 'review' from Daily Telegraph:-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gaming/featu ... oard-toys/

The RC car software also uses the right Joy-Con’s infra-red sensor to display a small night-vision display on the Switch.

Robot Wars in the dark? That sounds pretty cool.

You can even draw and cut out your own sine graph, slot it into the piano and when you hold down a key, the sensor will ‘read’ the shape and the pitch will undulate accordingly.

A cardboard analog synth? That sounds pretty cool too.

The robot Toy-Con, which we didn’t get to see at the demo but appeared in the trailer, looks to be another extraordinary contraption. You will build a wearable visor, jet-pack and attachments for your wrists and ankles. Joy-Cons attach to the visor and backpack, while strings reach from your hands and feet to pull the same infrared stickers from the piano around in the pack. Essentially giving you almost full body control over the robot on screen using simple cardboard and an IR sensor.

A cardboard power-suit? That sounds very cool.

Octoroc wrote:

still wrote:Hands on 'review' from Daily Telegraph:-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gaming/featu ... oard-toys/

The RC car software also uses the right Joy-Con’s infra-red sensor to display a small night-vision display on the Switch.

Robot Wars in the dark? That sounds pretty cool.

You can even draw and cut out your own sine graph, slot it into the piano and when you hold down a key, the sensor will ‘read’ the shape and the pitch will undulate accordingly.

A cardboard analog synth? That sounds pretty cool too.

The robot Toy-Con, which we didn’t get to see at the demo but appeared in the trailer, looks to be another extraordinary contraption. You will build a wearable visor, jet-pack and attachments for your wrists and ankles. Joy-Cons attach to the visor and backpack, while strings reach from your hands and feet to pull the same infrared stickers from the piano around in the pack. Essentially giving you almost full body control over the robot on screen using simple cardboard and an IR sensor.

A cardboard power-suit? That sounds very cool.

No, no, it's rubbish!

still wrote:Hands on 'review' from Daily Telegraph:-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gaming/featu ... oard-toys/

From that review:

Tom Hoggins wrote:You can even draw and cut out your own sine graph, slot it into the piano and when you hold down a key, the sensor will ‘read’ the shape and the pitch will undulate accordingly.
[...]
In the case of the piano, it shows you what the IR sensor is ‘seeing’ and how the hit-boxes for the keys appear in its vision.

That is absolutely incredible. Not only is this going to be a tonne of fun, it's genuinely going to get kids into tech and engineering.

Nah it's gooseberry fool m8

In the name of political balance....:- (Guardian hands-on):-

https://www.theguardian.com/games/2018/ ... ctive-toys

Will definitely be buying into this, personally think it looks fantastic and will amaze my 4 year old daughter! Always wanted to play a spot of piano..

Karl wrote:That is absolutely incredible. Not only is this going to be a tonne of fun, it's genuinely going to get kids older GRcadians into tech and engineering.

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jawafour wrote:

Karl wrote:That is absolutely incredible. Not only is this going to be a tonne of fun, it's genuinely going to get kids older GRcadians into tech and engineering.

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My coworkers were talking about this and said "Karl will buy them all, right?". I won't but I'll definitely be getting some of the more intricate kits as time goes by.

They're so cool! Baffled that it's been poorly-received by some. I respect their opinion and all that, but can't see why anyone would feel negatively about it personally.

I'm definitely going in on the robot kit.

Yeah I think I will end up going for that robot kit too!

It looks like such a simple idea so lots of people have been quick to dismiss it but when you actually read how it all works.....it just sounds incredible

I want a Metroid arm cannon kit to go with the robot kit.

If you think about the potential things they could do with this, I wouldn't bet against seeing a Nintendoland sequel that incorporates Labo in certain ways.

Bet they could dream up some interesting multiplayer games

The next Smash Bros is going to be a melee in more ways than one.

Biodegradable too.

All that remains is for Nintendo to restrict supply to create a 'buzz' and spoil it all.