Nintendo NX - What do YOU want?

NickSCFC · Last edited by NickSCFC on Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.

We already have a thread on NX with people predicting the announcement, but what do you want? What would make you buy one?

Console
- At least as powerful as PS4, x86 based for easy porting from PC, PS4 and Xbone
- Can play all games made for the handheld

Controller
- Similar to the pro controller with the Gamecube's hexagon stick edges and clickable triggers
- Motion controls similar to Dual Shock 3/4 enabling control of Wii/Wii U games

Handheld
- ARM based for easy porting of mobile games
- PS Vita form factor with one screen
- Capacitive touch screen
- Backwards compatibility with DS/3DS via screen add on
- Can be used as a console controller bringing extra functionality with the touch screen

Emulation
- Backwards compatible with Wii/Wii U discs Cia software emulation, downloadable ROMs for all cartridge based games.

Games
- Mario 64 successor: Something that feels more like you're in a world
- Zelda U: A given really
- Metroid 3rd persion: Always wanted a third person 3D Metroid game, the Prime formula should work for this
- 3D Pokemon adventure: Loved the TV series, but hard the games. Give me a full 3D adventure/RPG game with cell-shaded graphics
- F-Zero GX Remake: I don't think that Nintendo alone could improve on this due to it being developed by Sega, so a graphical update will do
- Achievements: 2 generations after the competition, this should really be implemented by now

Console
In terms of power I'd like it to be on par with the PS4K. At least 500gb storage too.

Control and Functionality
In the box I would like it to come with a normal controller. I quite like the idea of merging the handheld and console units and having the machine be capable of streaming games (at an acceptably degraded performance) to some sort of Gamepad/Vita device but I do not want something with a big strawberry floating screen in it to be the default input device. Unless of course there's some magic going on that I can't conceive of yet.

Back Compatibiltiy and Virtual Console
I would also like the Nintendo Store idea to be implemented. Scrap all backwards compatibility nonsense but allow us to buy any game from Nintendo's back catalogue and own it for life. If this was all the NX was I'd probably buy it. It would mean the NX would have to be Wiimote and Gamepad compatible and maybe that's strawberry floating hard but meh it's what I want.

Games
Games wise I don't really care, Zelda is going to be there on launch. What I do want to see is some evidence that Nintendo are capable of supporting this thing which if they do not merge handheld and console development then I would be scepticle of. The WiiU has been an unmitigated disaster and not just in terms of sales. I have largely lost confidence in Nintendo as a modern games developer/console manufacturer. To buy into the NX I need to see something that shows they are capable of putting out 2/3 games a year that make use of a modern games consoles specs and show some ambition to build games that can compete with the best developers out there and provide their fans with what they want. I don't want to be playing more rehashed Gamecube games for the next five years.

Chances of Happening
2/10
This would all require Nintendo to be a modern Videogames manufacturing company which they're not, so it won't happen. It also might put the company out of business if it wasn't a success.

HARDWARE
- Must be more powerful than the PS4/XOne, ideally enough to compete with first, maybe second year next gen titles on rival platforms.
- Architecture must make it piss easy to develop for and port to.
- Evolution of the Gamepad; multi-touch, higher res screen, improved streaming, swankier design etc.

SOFTWARE
- Renewed focus on the core user-base with titles like Metroid Prime, F-Zero, Zelda, 1080 Snowboarding and more. Worried about sales? Marketing!
- Collaboration with third parties to bring a variety of new franchises to Nintendo's platform. Make them feel like family - the good kind, not the Manson kind.
- Target developers of much-loved games that never got finished (BG&E2, etc), and if they're up to the task of making them happen, do it.
- Take the most promising Kickstarter et al game projects, and get as many as possible onto the NX. Offer financial incentives to struggling developers, with the prospect of future collaboration if game quality etc is good enough. Best projects get Nintendo Direct air time.
- One user account to cover every connected Nintendo platform a user owns.
- A Netflix-style Virtual Console/eShop service that is the same for all Nintendo platforms a user owns.
- Steam-esque sales for VC titles.

For me to get the next Nintendo console it needs to be more powerful than the PS4, I'd say at least 20%. It has to have brilliant 3rd party support, on a par with the PS4 and XBO.

It needs to have something similar to trophies/achievements that accumulate for all games. It needs a fast, non childish interface and proper on-line capabilities.

Even if it has all of this I probably wouldn't buy one for 6-12 months as I want to see how the 3rd party support pans out.

Realistically, I can't see me getting one as Nintendo have not had decent 3rd party support for the games I want to play since the SNES.

I wish:

NickSCFC wrote:Handheld
- PS Vita form factor with one screen
- Capacitive touch screen
- Backwards compatibility with DS/3DS via screen add on
- Can be used as a console controller bringing extra functionality with the touch screen

I'm far more interested in OS and backend than anything hardware or software related(which we know will be awesome). I want a proper account system that lets me link multiple accounts together as a family and then share game licenses between them. When I buy Zelda on my console, it should just be available on my kids' consoles just like it is with Xbox.

At the moment, I keep buying the same Virtual Console games again and again on each platform. And I'm ok with that, because I'm a massive Nintendo nerd, but it's such an anti-consumer practice. I should buy Super Mario World on my Wii and then I have it on my Wii U, 3DS, NX etc.

In my house right now, I have 2 Wii Us 12 3DSes. Nintendo releases a 3DS, a 3DS XL, a 2DS a new 3DS and then they release different styles of each of those which I happily purchase. But I should be able to grab whichever console I choose and have easy and instant access to my game library. At the moment I there's a tedious and time consuming process to transfer all the licenses from one device to another. It's unforgivable really.

So unforgivable, but still you give them your cash. Seems very forgivable to me...

PostRe: Nintendo NX - What do YOU want? by **That** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:28 am

Probably the only real thing that could have absolutely ensured I bought it would have been merged handheld/console platform. Imagine the critical density of great first and second party games. Particularly if it had some backwards compatibility with both platform types. :datass:

Since that's unlikely I guess I'm just waiting and seeing.

I don't really care about third party stuff, who would even buy an NX to play their dudebro games? If you want to play FIFA/COD obviously you're going to get an Xbox or whatever.

Confirmed games for the first 18 months:

New true 3d Mario.
New Metroid.
New 1080.

In a console that has a properly tight online system and cross-buy on back catalogue games.

What they really need is a handful of big 3rd Party exclusive launch titles. And for there to be a compelling reason for 3rd Parties to stick with the console, it'll need to be at least as powerful as the existing consoles and relatively easy to develop multiplatform titles for.

By big, I mean high quality, high production value, big name games. Not necessarily from existing franchises, but with pedigree attached somewhere. (Sega and Nintendo to co-publish a new Sega Rally/Daytona/OutRun and bring back Super Monkey Ball perhaps. Ubisoft make Beyond Good and Evil 2 exclusive. Platinum Games have something exlusive. Those kinds of things).

Along with that if Nintendo have a 3D Mario title, a Wave Race/Excitebike/F Zero/1080 type game and something new that should be enough to convince people to reinvest in Nintendo hardware I'd have thought.

Monkey Ball and Beyond Good and Evil are too niche. See Bayonetta 2.

The majority want to lap up the existing franchises so Nintendo needs these if they are ever going to expand their userbase.

There's absolutely no chance they'll get anything too mainstream as an exclusive, like I said they need to get the same multiplatform titles as other platforms, that's not in question.

Those other games being Nintendo exclusive make sense. Bayonetta 2 wasn't bad, it just couldn't do anything on its own on Wii U, had it been part of a larger strategy it would have worked.

Monkey Ball, Bayonetta 3, Beyond Good and Evil all together still wouldn't do anything. Nintendo need equal 3rd party support to their competitors as an absolute minimum.

The games you've suggested simply aren't system sellers so no real point is Nintendo wasting cash to make them exclusive.

Death's Head wrote:Monkey Ball, Bayonetta 3, Beyond Good and Evil all together still wouldn't do anything. Nintendo need equal 3rd party support to their competitors as an absolute minimum.

The games you've suggested simply aren't system sellers so no real point is Nintendo wasting cash to make them exclusive.

If the console has the multiplatform support and the Nintendo games, you might say it doesn't need anything else.

However I think the Wii U has left Nintendo in a position where they actually do need a bunch of 3rd Party exclusives on top of those other things to make sure the early adopters come back.

I think you are wrong, a whole bunch of 'core' 3rd Party exclusives would do something, but there has to be more than one or two and they have to be there at launch (or in the window at least).

EDIT - Comparing it to the drib drab of Wii U 3rd Party exclusives that came amidst the Wii U losing (or not ever getting) almost all multiplatform titles is comparing apples and oranges, its not the same thing.

A whole bunch would do something, but the titles you mentioned are too niche and will be overlooked by the majority of the game buying public.

If they achieved 3rd party parity and had their own exclusives but still can't make the numbers then Nintendo themselves can only be considered a niche publisher.

Karl wrote:Probably the only real thing that could have absolutely ensured I bought it would have been merged handheld/console platform. Imagine the critical density of great first and second party games. Particularly if it had some backwards compatibility with both platform types.

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The hybrid, while sensible for a lot of reasons, was my nightmare scenario :dread:

. I'm so relieved that the rumours about that have died down. I feel like there was a worrying potential for the output to homogenise in a way that doesn't really take advantage of the benefits of either being a handheld or a console game. Compare, for example, the handheld Zeldas against the console ones. I don't think we would really see something like "A Link Between Worlds" on a console. Although with Ocarina / Majora appearing on 3DS and the approach used for the last Smash, that might be happening regardless. :shifty:

As for NX, I'm mainly interested in the games. I can put up with an incredible amount of infrastructure woes as long as the games remain of a high quality.

But ideally, I would like to see a comprehensive OS with proper online integration that allows me to easily play with friends. I would like to be able to just assume that all games have invite systems, lobby systems, and party systems without having to do the feature dance with regards to what subset of those Nintendo may or may not support on a per title basis. Make stuff like Miiverse instantaneous, and expand it to encompass stuff like achievements, stat tracking, leaderboards etc. The "Play Log" should also track per-game information, like how many heart pieces you've collected in Zelda, the largest fish you've caught, etc. Currently this type of stuff has to sent to Miiverse in the form of explicit posts (just look at how Hyrule Warriors spams the medal unlocks), but they could do so much more with it. Almost like giving each game its own "Bomber's Notebook" with social network hooks.

I would like it to be a Butler.

PostRe: Nintendo NX - What do YOU want? by **That** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:17 pm

The Watching Artist wrote:I would like it to be a Butler.

I have my fingers crossed for sexbot.

Say what you want, but it would certainly sell.

PostRe: Nintendo NX - What do YOU want? by **SEP** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:25 pm

You know those robots we were all supposed to have by now that do all the housework? I want one of those. strawberry floating Jetsons lied to me.

Nintendo NX to come with hoover bot confirmed. It guarantees your console will never be dusty again!

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