Nintendo Switch Chat thread

Hexx wrote:

Cheeky Devlin wrote:

Floex wrote:Potential Spec Leak

Four ARM Cortex-A57 cores, max 2GHz
NVidia second-generation Maxwell architecture
256 CUDA cores, max 1 GHz, 1024 FLOPS/cycle
4GB RAM (25.6 GB/s, VRAM shared)
32 GB storage (Max transfer 400 MB/s)
USB 2.0 & 3.0
1280 x 720 6.2" IPS LCD
1080p at 60 fps or 4k at 30 fps max video output
Capcitance method, 10-point multi-touch

https://twitter.com/NWPlayer123/status/ ... 6109655041

It uses carts doesn't it? So maybe not that big an issue. Nintendo never been great for digital.

That's fine for physical games, yeah. But I've starting getting more and more of my games digitally recently. I've only got three "Full" Wii U digital games and along with the various VC and eShop games I have (Not many) I'm lucky if I can store more than one of those three at any given time. 32GB is a joke in this day and age.

Cheeky Devlin wrote:...I'm lucky if I can store more than one of those three at any given time. 32GB is a joke in this day and age.

True, Cheeky. But...

jawafour wrote:...I'd assume that maybe "blank" cards will be available; although this approach would suggest that space could be quite limited? Or perhaps Nintendo will sell them relatively cheaply, recognising that money is to be made through downloading?...

I wonder if we'll be able to download to blank Game Cards?

I am pleased with the way things seem to be going.

Floex wrote:Potential Spec Leak

Four ARM Cortex-A57 cores, max 2GHz
NVidia second-generation Maxwell architecture
256 CUDA cores, max 1 GHz, 1024 FLOPS/cycle
4GB RAM (25.6 GB/s, VRAM shared)
32 GB storage (Max transfer 400 MB/s)
USB 2.0 & 3.0
1280 x 720 6.2" IPS LCD
1080p at 60 fps or 4k at 30 fps max video output
Capcitance method, 10-point multi-touch

https://twitter.com/NWPlayer123/status/ ... 6109655041

Compared with Nvidia Shield specs...

NVIDIA® Tegra® X1 processor with a 256-core GPU
CPU (4+4) A57: 1.9 GHz A53: 1.3 GHz
GPU NVIDIA Maxwell 256-core
4 CPU-cores, 64-bit ARM® CPU
3 GB RAM (25.6 GB/s)
16 GB
Two USB 3.0 (Type A)
HDMI 2.0 with HDCP 2.2
Gigabit Ethernet
802.11ac 2x2 MIMO 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz Wi-Fi

Looks like a similar spec, an updated version of the X1 in all likelihood rather than the either of the newer Tegra SoC they've announced. It does basically mean that the Switch will be 2 generations of processors out of date almost as soon as its released.

Cheeky Devlin wrote:That's fine for physical games, yeah. But I've starting getting more and more of my games digitally recently. I've only got three "Full" Wii U digital games and along with the various VC and eShop games I have (Not many) I'm lucky if I can store more than one of those three at any given time. 32GB is a joke in this day and age.

I'd imagine it'll be just like the Wii U, you'll be able to plug an external HDD in to the base station.

Also even though not mentioned, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of adding storage through a MircoSD card. Its an option on the Nvidia Shield afterall.

But would mean a lower cost.

Lower processor now, NEW Nintendo Switch in 2-3 years time with faster speeds.

Yeah like I said, if it is just an updated X1 and Nintendo has got a good deal out of Nvidia then a £199 price point isn't out of the question.

I loved seeing all those photogenic people playing on the Switch in their clean, stylish and massive city apartments, when in reality I imagine it will be mostly used in these conditions:

Fuzzy Dunlop wrote:

Actually prefer that

I did try to hint this a week or so ago on the NX thread - but it was kind of missed I think

more heat than light wrote:They're launching this at a funny time, PS4 and Xbox One are hitting their strides and are available at around the £200 mark now. I think Nintendo have to be aggressive with pricing, even if it means taking a loss on hardware. My guess would be £199 with some sort of pack-in game that shows off the local multiplayer and portability.

They must be kicking themselves they've missed Christmas, I think it'd have been a phenomenon.

The idea that they're using a Maxwell GPU and not going for Pascal doesn't seem right. I know it'd be more expensive but considering how much more power efficient Pascal is it seems a no brainer to go with Pascal on a portable device.

bear wrote:The idea that they're using a Maxwell GPU and not going for Pascal doesn't seem right...

I'm not totally up on tech gear, but isn't even the minimum spec Pascal-based GPU a couple of hundred dollars?

Cuttooth wrote:

more heat than light wrote:They're launching this at a funny time, PS4 and Xbox One are hitting their strides and are available at around the £200 mark now. I think Nintendo have to be aggressive with pricing, even if it means taking a loss on hardware. My guess would be £199 with some sort of pack-in game that shows off the local multiplayer and portability.

They must be kicking themselves they've missed Christmas, I think it'd have been a phenomenon.

I think Hugo's closer to the mark on potential pricing with $299/€299/£299.

The real fun will be seeing if they (and everyone else) try to up the pound price for games....

The big push I think will be multiplayer gaming on the go, which you can see is quite prominent in video. I'm pretty sure the plan for the future will involve upgradeable base units. It's going to be pushing higher res on TV than the handheld unit, so will draw extra for that anyway.

I think they have the design right too, it looks stylish and desirable, which the WiiU didn't

jawafour wrote:

bear wrote:The idea that they're using a Maxwell GPU and not going for Pascal doesn't seem right...

I'm not totally up on tech gear, but isn't even the minimum spec Pascal-based GPU a couple of hundred dollars?

Not quite how it works, Nvidia take their desktop architecture and cut it down for their Tegra mobile SoC.

Only problem with that is that they don't currently have a Tegra SoC based on Pascal, there's one on their books (as well as one from the next generation) but they've not actually produced anything with it in yet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra#Tegra_X1

jawafour wrote:

bear wrote:The idea that they're using a Maxwell GPU and not going for Pascal doesn't seem right...

I'm not totally up on tech gear, but isn't even the minimum spec Pascal-based GPU a couple of hundred dollars?

The GTX 1050 was announced a couple of days ago as the budget Pascal GPU for $109.

EDIT - Oh yeah, mobile and all that.

Wedgie wrote:

AXL wrote:

Lagamorph wrote:So doesn't look like this is replacing their handheld portable offerings. Wonder if we'll get a follow up to the 3DS in 2-3 years.

Eh? Of course it is. They're not going to release this, and then release a separate handheld.

This is it. This is Nintendo's new handheld and home console.

It's great that all Nintendo teams can focus all efforts on one system only.

But Nintendo are still focusing on the 3DS as well?!

No way this is going to replace the 3DS type device.
Just look at it, that is in no way designed to be taken outside of the home like the 3DS is.

HSH28 wrote:...they don't currently have a Tegra SoC based on Pascal...

Cuttooth wrote:The GTX 1050 was announced a couple of days ago as the budget Pascal GPU for $109.

Thanks, chaps. So I guess that, although a cheaper Pascal GPU is being launched, it's a bit too early to see that in smaller (Tegra) form.

Parksey wrote:Presumably this means the end of the DS line of handhelds, and perhaps dedicated Nintendo handhelds in general? If so, it means we finally get a proper home console Pokemon game...

Not only does that sound ace, it's a potential system seller, especially now Pokemon Go has whetted public appetite for Pokemon again. Sun and Moon to be the last hurrah for the DS line and a Switch Pokegame for Xmas '17?

jawafour wrote:Oh! And *surely* a new Animal Crossing will appear on Switch... playable at home and on the go .

This is the point at which I have to buy one.

Fade wrote:If it were anyone but Nintendo bringing this out people would be all 'meh'

Except no. If this were the Sony Switch, or the Apple Switch, or the Valve Switch, millions of people would be interested.