Nintendo Switch Chat thread

Mazza Kart and Zelda.

Squinty wrote:Mazza Kart and Zelda.

Forgot about Zelda.

Qikz wrote:

Squinty wrote:Mazza Kart and Zelda.

Forgot about Zelda. :fp: :lol:

Don't think they've added anything to Zelda though have they.

Hound wrote:I can't see there being downloads of Wii U games because you instantly lose the 2nd screen and that could be important for the game in question

I genuinely don't think it'd be completely unworkable. They could add a WiiU mode where it uses the Switch as the gamepad screen but still uses the TV. I think it'd be more dependent on if the Switch is powerful enough.

I'm looking forward to Nintendo finally talking digital, and unveiling the e-shop and Virtual Console. Hopefully next month. Well I suppose it has to be really.

BAKA wrote:

Hound wrote:I can't see there being downloads of Wii U games because you instantly lose the 2nd screen and that could be important for the game in question

I genuinely don't think it'd be completely unworkable. They could add a WiiU mode where it uses the Switch as the gamepad screen but still uses the TV. I think it'd be more dependent on if the Switch is powerful enough.

I'm looking forward to Nintendo finally talking digital, and unveiling the e-shop and Virtual Console. Hopefully next month. Well I suppose it has to be really.

How would that work? If you have the Switch undocked then there is nothing in the dock to send a signal to the TV

Also it would require Nintendo effort to refactor the games to make it work. Never going to happen. Ports are the only way we will see Wii U games on Switch.

HSH28 wrote:

Qikz wrote:

Squinty wrote:Mazza Kart and Zelda.

Forgot about Zelda.

Don't think they've added anything to Zelda though have they.

An extra £10-£20.

Hound wrote:

BAKA wrote:

Hound wrote:I can't see there being downloads of Wii U games because you instantly lose the 2nd screen and that could be important for the game in question

I genuinely don't think it'd be completely unworkable. They could add a WiiU mode where it uses the Switch as the gamepad screen but still uses the TV. I think it'd be more dependent on if the Switch is powerful enough.

I'm looking forward to Nintendo finally talking digital, and unveiling the e-shop and Virtual Console. Hopefully next month. Well I suppose it has to be really.

How would that work? If you have the Switch undocked then there is nothing in the dock to send a signal to the TV

Also it would require Nintendo effort to refactor the games to make it work. Never going to happen. Ports are the only way we will see Wii U games on Switch.

Maybe it's what they have been spending their time doing over the last few years ?

HSH28 wrote:

jawafour wrote:*** CARE ***

Amazon seems to have two products listed for the grey Switch console:

1) Unavailable - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nintendo-UK-Sw ... 76171011_3
2) Available - https://www.amazon.co.uk/NINTENDO-SWITC ... 76171011_9

This is a bit odd!

Interesting that the unavailable one has UK in the URL and the available one doesn't. Wonder if the other listing is for stock that isn't being allocated to the UK?

It is a tad strange... the second link doesn't have any text in the product description to suggest it's not a UK model, but it does include an additional product photo that lists some of the pack content in Spanish. It's peculiar because it is actually Amazon selling this rather than another party... and it is still available to pre-order for a Day One delivery. Personally I'd be cautious about this... but it is zooming up the sales chart, with many folk probably not realising that - potentially - they're not ordering the "proper" product.

Hound wrote:

BAKA wrote:

Hound wrote:I can't see there being downloads of Wii U games because you instantly lose the 2nd screen and that could be important for the game in question

I genuinely don't think it'd be completely unworkable. They could add a WiiU mode where it uses the Switch as the gamepad screen but still uses the TV. I think it'd be more dependent on if the Switch is powerful enough.

I'm looking forward to Nintendo finally talking digital, and unveiling the e-shop and Virtual Console. Hopefully next month. Well I suppose it has to be really.

How would that work? If you have the Switch undocked then there is nothing in the dock to send a signal to the TV

Also it would require Nintendo effort to refactor the games to make it work. Never going to happen. Ports are the only way we will see Wii U games on Switch.

I wasn't aware the Dock needed the Switch console itself to communicate with the TV, as the dock has a) a power source and b) some form of computational power if it's enhancing the technical performance when docked, and there are devices with less that are able to communicate with your television (dongles, etc). It seems bewildering to me that it wouldn't be possible or something Nintendo wouldn't even consider, especially in an age with cloud gaming services (like PS Now) that could have taken the brunt... I guess, because Nintendo?

BAKA wrote:I wasn't aware the Dock needed the Switch console itself to communicate with the TV, as the dock has a) a power source and b) some form of computational power if it's enhancing the technical performance when docked...

It does this by having a built in fan to cool the Switch down when it's docked. That's what allows the Switch to run faster.

FAO OrangeRakoon

OrangeRakoon wrote:.

You were interested in pre-ordering from a place that does collection not delivery, right? Just wanted to let you know my local HMV had plenty of its launch allocation left, so I put my pre-order in there. You have to collect it launch day or the next day - or you lose your £10 deposit & they sell your console - but I imagine that's not a problem for you. Hopefully you might have luck at a HMV near you.

BAKA wrote:I wasn't aware the Dock needed the Switch console itself to communicate with the TV, as the dock has a) a power source and b) some form of computational power if it's enhancing the technical performance when docked, and there are devices with less that are able to communicate with your television (dongles, etc). It seems bewildering to me that it wouldn't be possible or something Nintendo wouldn't even consider, especially in an age with cloud gaming services (like PS Now) that could have taken the brunt... I guess, because Nintendo?

I see OSC has already answered this in a way, but to be completely clear. The dock has no form of computational power whatsoever.

OldSoulCyborg wrote:

BAKA wrote:I wasn't aware the Dock needed the Switch console itself to communicate with the TV, as the dock has a) a power source and b) some form of computational power if it's enhancing the technical performance when docked...

It does this by having a built in fan to cool the Switch down when it's docked. That's what allows the Switch to run faster.

I genuinely Googled that because I thought you were having a laugh. I had no idea, very interesting. It seems so lo-fi that I actually respect it a little more on a design front, but also find myself returning to the price point with an increasing scepticism.

I was thinking with them using the mobile app for chat it pretty much guarantees all online games with have everyone's game audio streaming down the mics as you won't be able to use a headset for the console and chat which is pretty gooseberry fool.

So there actually is little stopping the Switch from connecting to a TV over HDMI without the dock, aside from the lack of an HDMI connection on the console itself?

Would be good if you could connect it to a TV just by a HDMI cable and just stick with the "mobile" power profile for times when you can't carry the dock with you.

BAKA wrote:I genuinely Googled that because I thought you were having a laugh. I had no idea, very interesting. It seems so lo-fi that I actually respect it a little more on a design front, but also find myself returning to the price point with an increasing scepticism.

Seeing as the thing here that is making you sceptical about the price point is the fact the device contains less processing power than you thought it did, I have to assume this scepticism is driven from a value perspective (you think that the device isn't offering enough for its £280 price point).

Given that its processing power that has moved you to this point I think its only fair to compare the price against other devices running similar (or in these cases) the same type of processor.

There are currently (as far as I'm aware) two devices on the market using a similar Nvidia processor (perhaps not quite the same as what Nvidia is giving to Nintendo is supposedly tweaked for them in some ways). The processor is the X1 and the devices are the Nvidia Shield TV and the Pixel C.

The Pixel C is a 10" tablet with a 2560 x 1800 resolution screen with 3GB of RAM. It comes (or was available) in 32GB and 64GB versions for either £399 or £479

The Nvidia Shield TV is a smart TV box with no portability at all, it does come with a games controller and it also has 3GB of RAM. It comes in two version also 16GB or 500GB HDD for £179.99 or £279.99.

It seems to me that the hardware of the Switch puts it between these two devices (not in terms of functionality, but in terms of what you get for your money). And the price point matches that very nicely.

I paid £200 for my Shield tablet and controller in 2015, part of me was hoping that Nintendo could bring the Switch in for something closer to that price. I can understand people having gripes about the cost, personally it's moved me from being almost certain to buy at launch, to probably buying before the end of the year.

I can honestly say what processor and how many devices on the market use it, or a similar one, and the cost of those, has no bearing on my purchase decision or whether I think something is value for money, but it was nice of you to go the effort anyway.

Jenuall wrote:Would be good if you could connect it to a TV just by a HDMI cable and just stick with the "mobile" power profile for times when you can't carry the dock with you.

Everything goes through the USB-C connection in the dock as far as I understand, so it'll be interesting if something like this would be technically viable as a "replacement" portable dock.

I mean, I know it almost certainly won't, but it'd be interesting nonetheless.