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Karl wrote:I think it helps that the Switch only had to do well compared to the Wii U to be perceived as successful, whereas the Xbone was in direct competition with the PS4.

Maybe MS should have tried to make something unique.

NickSCFC wrote:https://twitter.com/Chris_Dring/status/907547744994295808

Christopher Dring (ex MCV)

UK sales of Switch are slower compared with other markets. But doing ok. Currently ahead of Xbox One for the year (but well behind PS4)

That's pretty impressive given how the UK has often been Nintendo's weakest major market.

twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/940566931987423232

Great numbers, but don't forget this is also a handheld, so it needs to be compared against sales of Wii U and 3DS surely?

AndyXMAS wrote:Great numbers, but don't forget this is also a handheld, so it needs to be compared against sales of Wii U and 3DS surely?

No?

Don't forget the PS4 is also a media player, so it needs to be compared to sales of Blu-ray players, set top boxes, Chromecasts, Amazon Fire sticks, etc.

Very pleased to see the Switch doing well, its a brilliant machine that deserves it!

That said I'm more interested to hear software numbers and particularly how some of the third parties have fared with their toe-dips back in to the Nintendo market...

Nice to see the system selling well. I feel we’re still some way off from the kind of awareness and desire associated with the Wii, though. But, hey, you can’t knock such a good start.

Qikzen wrote:

AndyXMAS wrote:Great numbers, but don't forget this is also a handheld, so it needs to be compared against sales of Wii U and 3DS surely?

No?

Not combined as I believe a large percentage of Wii U owners had a 3DS.

3Ds sold 65m, so above that would be success, I think 100m would be possible.

The point I was making was that in all the last generations, Nintendo had 2 systems - e.g. Wii U and 3DS. So that's 2 sets of hardware and games sales.

Now it just has one - so Switch needs to sell well to match having had 2x everything in the past.

AndyXMAS wrote:The point I was making was that in all the last generations, Nintendo had 2 systems - e.g. Wii U and 3DS. So that's 2 sets of hardware and games sales.

Now it just has one - so Switch needs to sell well to match having had 2x everything in the past.

That's simplifying it way too much. There will be a lot more factors at play-for example, I imagine their internal costs will go down by a lot given that they only have to support one system going forward. Also, I expect their profit margins are bigger on Switch games when compared to 3DS.

If Nintendo hit 3DS figures with the Switch then they'll be delighted.

AndyXMAS wrote:The point I was making was that in all the last generations, Nintendo had 2 systems - e.g. Wii U and 3DS. So that's 2 sets of hardware and games sales.

Now it just has one - so Switch needs to sell well to match having had 2x everything in the past.

Its worth noting Nintendo are still making and selling various versions of the 3DS.

I tend to agree with Tom and HSH but I can also understand Andy's thinking... the 3DS is on the way out and I feel that the Switch is going to become Nintendo's sole pillar of income for a period. Some 3DS titles still sell in decent numbers but its probably going to see little action next year.

I'm not slating the 3DS by saying that - I still thinks it's a fine machine and I continue to enjoy using it!

Jenuall wrote:Don't forget the PS4 is also a media player, so it needs to be compared to sales of Blu-ray players, set top boxes, Chromecasts, Amazon Fire sticks, etc.

Very pleased to see the Switch doing well, its a brilliant machine that deserves it!

That said I'm more interested to hear software numbers and particularly how some of the third parties have fared with their toe-dips back in to the Nintendo market...

Yes would be great to know how well the big third party games have done so far as that will determine iff they continue to support it with ports and downgraded specs of current gen games. hopefully we are entering a time when most modern game engines scale well and I'm happy to play to the latest Assassins creed with low res graphics if it's possible.

AndyXMAS wrote:The point I was making was that in all the last generations, Nintendo had 2 systems - e.g. Wii U and 3DS. So that's 2 sets of hardware and games sales.

Now it just has one - so Switch needs to sell well to match having had 2x everything in the past.

Well put it this way, had Nintendo continued their trend of supporting 2 platforms and, going forward, splitting their delelopment efforts between both I certainly wouldn't have bought a Switch.

The "unified platform" approach is what got me hyped for the NX in the first place.

But they are still releasing 3DS games

OrangeReindeer wrote:But they are still releasing 3DS games

As far as I'm aware there isn't a single first party 3DS game scheduled for 2018.

Edit: I lie, there's "Sushi Striker" coming out in Japan.

Metroid: Samus Returns was effectively 3DS' swansong.

I think Nintendo are realistic, a straight successor to the 3DS probably wouldn't be a success as the mobile device market has moved on massively. It's almost a cultural shift as I can't imagine many people over the next decade or so would want a dedicated 3DS style device along with their tablets and phones.

For me a hybrid style console seems the more modern and future proof concept.

captain red dog wrote:I think Nintendo are realistic, a straight successor to the 3DS probably wouldn't be a success as the mobile device market has moved on massively. It's almost a cultural shift as I can't imagine many people over the next decade or so would want a dedicated 3DS style device along with their tablets and phones.

For me a hybrid style console seems the more modern and future proof concept.

The closest thing we'll see to a 3DS successor is this...

...and before people say it defeats the purpose of the Switch, the main selling point of 3DS was the 3D, they removed that, and more people play Switch in handheld mode than docked mode anyway.

NickSCFC wrote:As far as I'm aware there isn't a single first party 3DS game scheduled for 2018.

Edit: I lie, there's "Sushi Striker" coming out in Japan.

Metroid: Samus Returns was effectively 3DS' swansong.

Looks like we will finally get a translation of Detective Pikachu

Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon came out after Samus Returns too

There have been a good number of 3DS releases post-switch anyhow.

NickSCFC wrote:

captain red dog wrote:I think Nintendo are realistic, a straight successor to the 3DS probably wouldn't be a success as the mobile device market has moved on massively. It's almost a cultural shift as I can't imagine many people over the next decade or so would want a dedicated 3DS style device along with their tablets and phones.

For me a hybrid style console seems the more modern and future proof concept.

The closest thing we'll see to a 3DS successor is this...

...and before people say it defeats the purpose of the Switch, the main selling point of 3DS was the 3D, they removed that, and more people play Switch in handheld mode than docked mode anyway.

Is this a fact?