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PostRe: No Man's Sky - No Man's Sky was a mistake, so says Hello Games' Twitter
by Denster » Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:44 pm

If you thought there was multiplayer - in the traditional sense of the word - then you're a strawberry floating idiot.

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PostRe: No Man's Sky - No Man's Sky was a mistake, so says Hello Games' Twitter
by Fade » Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:52 pm

But he said there was

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PostRe: No Man's Sky - No Man's Sky was a mistake, so says Hello Games' Twitter
by Mafro » Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:59 pm


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PostRe: No Man's Sky - No Man's Sky was a mistake, so says Hello Games' Twitter
by Lagamorph » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:04 pm

"The only way to know what your character looks like is to meet another player and let them see you"

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PostRe: No Man's Sky - No Man's Sky was a mistake, so says Hello Games' Twitter
by Pedz » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:12 pm

Lagamorph wrote:"The only way to know what your character looks like is to meet another player and let them see you"


I'm wondering if this was planned to come in an update in the future and HG was hoping no one would meet up due to the size of the game. Maybe.

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PostRe: No Man's Sky - No Man's Sky was a mistake, so says Hello Games' Twitter
by OrangeRKN » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:10 am

It's the consumer's fault in so much as it is blinkered naivety and selective retention of information about the game. There are interviews where Sean Murray talks about multiplayer (and yes he did not help in the slightest with the overhype of the game, there are of course things to criticise). There are also multiple articles pre-release with titles like "Stop Thinking Of No Man's Sky As A Multiplayer Game", "'No Man's Sky' Is Effectively A Single Player Experience", and "No Man's Sky 'Is Not a Multiplayer Game,' Hello Games Founder Says". The final press release pre-release (What do you do in No Man's Sky?) lays out quite accurately what the game actually is. There is no mention of multiplayer. It explicitly states:

That means this maybe isn’t the game you *imagined* from those trailers. If you hoped for things like pvp multiplayer or city building, piloting freighters, or building civilisations… that isn’t what NMS is.


There were never any previews showing any traditional multiplayer. There was never even any concrete laying out of what said multiplayer would entail. There should be and element of cynicism in watching any developer interview for a game currently in development - it should be accepted that something said in an interview might not make it into the final game, by development's very nature. But more importantly, if there have been multiple sources around the game, including a pre-release press release and series of tweets from the lead dev, citing it is not a multiplayer game and that people should not go into it expecting a multiplayer game, then I can't really sympathise with people who then bought the game expecting it to be a multiplayer game. It's also very very easy to just wait for the game to come out and read some reviews before committing to a purchase, especially when it was unclear for much of the build up to release what exactly the game would entail.

I was following the release very closely and the game was pretty close to the experience I imagined it would be. I certainly wasn't expecting traditional multiplayer when I bought it. I don't think that's because I am some sort of prophetic genius who saw through a layer of false expectations and misadvertisement. I think it's probably because I actually looked into what the game was rather than just buying into the insane hype.

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PostRe: No Man's Sky - No Man's Sky was a mistake, so says Hello Games' Twitter
by jawafour » Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:33 pm

In case some folk feel that Hello Games hasn't said anything about No Man's Sky, or they want to know more about what they're working on in terms of improving the game, this may help.

> Hello Games has have explained what they're focusing on here.
No matter what feedback you gave us, you have been heard and we are listening carefully. Thank you.

Here’s what we’ve been busy with in the weeks since release:
• A community/support management team has been brought on board.
• Support issues raised are been categorised by that team, and we are fixing them in order of priority.
• We’ve released a bunch of patches for PC and PS4.
• We’ve written up patch notes for all those patches. You can find them here.

What matters now, as always, is what we do rather than what we say. We’re developers, and our focus is first on resolving any issues people have with the game as it is, then on future free updates which will improve, expand and build on the No Man’s Sky universe.

This is a labour of love for us, and it’s just the beginning.

> They have detailed exactly what each of the six-or-so updates have done here.
> They are running a support helpline, and talk through some of the common challenges people may be facing, here.

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PostRe: No Man's Sky - No Man's Sky was a mistake, so says Hello Games' Twitter
by jawafour » Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:59 pm

I got my exosuit up to (what I believe is) the maximum number of slots last night. I've reached 48 and the last one cost 350k credits!

My ship is extremely modest, though, and so I'm gonna focus on that now. I'm currently following the Atlus path although I'm still doing way more wandering about rather than trying to get there quickly.

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PostRe: No Man's Sky - No Man's Sky was a mistake, so says Hello Games' Twitter
by Denster » Sat Nov 05, 2016 6:03 pm

Brerlappin wrote:
Mafro wrote:


But you're a strawberry floating idiot if you expected there to be multiplayer, apparently.




Multiplayer in the traditional sense. He says there its a mass multiplayer world. Meaning there's a lot of people who will play it. It then says the likelihood of meeting them is small due to the vastness of that world.

So yes - if you watch that and think it will be multiplayer space battles and meeting your mates or some kind of space set WOW.?
Then yes, you are a strawberry floating idiot.

It is not what he says.

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PostRe: No Man's Sky - No Man's Sky was a mistake, so says Hello Games' Twitter
by JNR » Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:21 pm

jawafour wrote:In case some folk feel that Hello Games hasn't said anything about No Man's Sky, or they want to know more about what they're working on in terms of improving the game, this may help.

> Hello Games has have explained what they're focusing on here.
No matter what feedback you gave us, you have been heard and we are listening carefully. Thank you.

Here’s what we’ve been busy with in the weeks since release:
• A community/support management team has been brought on board.
• Support issues raised are been categorised by that team, and we are fixing them in order of priority.
• We’ve released a bunch of patches for PC and PS4.
• We’ve written up patch notes for all those patches. You can find them here.

What matters now, as always, is what we do rather than what we say. We’re developers, and our focus is first on resolving any issues people have with the game as it is, then on future free updates which will improve, expand and build on the No Man’s Sky universe.

This is a labour of love for us, and it’s just the beginning.

> They have detailed exactly what each of the six-or-so updates have done here.
> They are running a support helpline, and talk through some of the common challenges people may be facing, here.


tl:dr it's the same game but less broken.

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PostRe: No Man's Sky - No Man's Sky was a mistake, so says Hello Games' Twitter
by jawafour » Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:43 pm

I forgot to say in my earlier update (about the game, not the "controversy" stuff) - for the first time I have stumbled across a galaxy that another player has already visited. Nothing too exciting, the galaxy details just noted the player's name and when they found the area (11 August in this case).

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PostRe: No Man's Sky - No Man's Sky was a mistake, so says Hello Games' Twitter
by floydfreak » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:43 am

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PostRe: No Man's Sky - No Man's Sky was a mistake, so says Hello Games' Twitter
by jawafour » Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:17 am

I wonder if we've reached the stage where we need a new, specific thread to talk about the "Sean Murray lies / truth" topic? This thread could then be dedicated to chat about playing the game, whilst the new thread would accommodate folk who want to talk about lying and evidence.

It's not a case of "jawa doesn't want people saying bad things about the game"... more that the lying / not lying issues seems to be so intense and prolonged that they deserve their own separate chat.

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PostRe: No Man's Sky - No Man's Sky was a mistake, so says Hello Games' Twitter
by Death's Head » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:27 am

Is anyone else playing the game?

Yes?
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PostRe: No Man's Sky - No Man's Sky was a mistake, so says Hello Games' Twitter
by The Watching Artist » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:29 am

Jawa is. I heard he found a lush green wilderness. It was named Hyrule Field.

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PostRe: No Man's Sky - No Man's Sky was a mistake, so says Hello Games' Twitter
by Saint of Killers » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:37 am

And he never played NMS again.

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PostRe: No Man's Sky - No Man's Sky was a mistake, so says Hello Games' Twitter
by Octoroc » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:17 am

Death's Head wrote:Is anyone else playing the game?


I still want to play it once I get a PS4. Although I intend to wait until Hello Games have finished patching it.

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PostRe: RE: Re: No Man's Sky - No Man's Sky was a mistake, so says Hello Games' Twitter
by Death's Head » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:52 am

Octoroc wrote:
Death's Head wrote:Is anyone else playing the game?


I still want to play it once I get a PS4. Although I intend to wait until Hello Games have finished patching it.

I'll probably also buy it at some point, when it turns up for £10 on PS4 or PC.

Yes?
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PostRe: No Man's Sky - No Man's Sky was a mistake, so says Hello Games' Twitter
by Dual » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:03 pm

I've found your enjoyment of the game really depends on how much your willing to put into the resource gathering (grinding) aspect of it. I found it frustrating very early on due to the limited space you have to store materials and I got bit bored of it.

It is exciting landing on a new planet to see what the game will throw at you but once you've done a light jump a couple of times you realize the planets are all built of the same stuff.

Minecraft does base building, resource gathering, exploration, survival-sim and more way better.

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PostRe: No Man's Sky - No Man's Sky was a mistake, so says Hello Games' Twitter
by Tafdolphin » Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:17 pm

Death's Head wrote:Is anyone else playing the game?


This is a good point. I think the only person actively still playing it, and wanting to talk about it at least, is Jawa. And this talk of Sean Murray is not, I don't think, trolling. It's a genuinely interesting situation that deserves discussion. I don't see why it should be moved anywhere else.

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