Donald Trump becomes the first US president to meet a North Korean leader

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PostRe: North Korea and South Korea to "announce end of war" that started in 1950
by abcd » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:16 pm

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PostRe: North Korea and South Korea to "announce end of war" that started in 1950
by Squinty » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:43 pm

Something is going on in NK. The about turn has been extremely quick and bizarre.

My guess is they see where these sanctions are going to take them and they don't like the look of it.

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by Grumpy David » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:20 am

Imagine the timeline where Trump is finishing 8 years in the White House with North Korea having completely changed from a rogue nation to a fledgling democracy. Impeachment and a single term presidency is probably the more likely but it's been a funny few years in politics.

IIRC, North Korean diplomats apparently regularly ask if Trump is legitimately a madman or just pretending. Fighting crazy with crazy may actually be paying off. :slol:

Although I can't trust NK just yet. It wasn't that long ago that Kim had his uncle assassinated in an airport. Trump's shift of foreign policy has probably helped but I imagine the sanctions has had greater impact. Once they're relaxed, I'm sure NK would just revert back to being the rogue nation.

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PostRe: North Korea and South Korea to "announce end of war" that started in 1950
by Curls » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:26 am

Moggy wrote:Trump is now going to restore the Soviet Union, give Taiwan back to China, unite Ireland, tow the Falkland Islands to just off the Cornish coast and create the republic of Catalonia.

Is there anything he can’t do? :wub:



It would bring me a little bit closer to home at least!

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by lex-man » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:01 pm

Grumpy David wrote:Imagine the timeline where Trump is finishing 8 years in the White House with North Korea having completely changed from a rogue nation to a fledgling democracy. Impeachment and a single term presidency is probably the more likely but it's been a funny few years in politics.

IIRC, North Korean diplomats apparently regularly ask if Trump is legitimately a madman or just pretending. Fighting crazy with crazy may actually be paying off. :slol:

Although I can't trust NK just yet. It wasn't that long ago that Kim had his uncle assassinated in an airport. Trump's shift of foreign policy has probably helped but I imagine the sanctions has had greater impact. Once they're relaxed, I'm sure NK would just revert back to being the rogue nation.


NK aren't giving up anything, it's Trump and South Korea who's shifted position. Trump's said he's prepared to meet Kim, which was a meeting offered to Clinton but Clinton wanted NK to make a good faith gesture first. Also on the sanctions side of things, they've just been moved back to the level they were at in 2009.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/09/politics ... index.html

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PostRe: North Korea and South Korea to "announce end of war" that started in 1950
by Alvin Flummux » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:26 pm


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PostRe: North Korea and South Korea to "announce end of war" that started in 1950
by Preezy » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:16 pm

Grumpy David wrote:Although I can't trust NK just yet. It wasn't that long ago that Kim had his uncle assassinated in an airport.

That was his half-brother. He had his uncle fed to starving dogs :roll:

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PostRe: North Korea and South Korea to "announce end of war" that started in 1950
by Moggy » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:31 pm

Preezy wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:Although I can't trust NK just yet. It wasn't that long ago that Kim had his uncle assassinated in an airport.

That was his half-brother. He had his uncle fed to starving dogs :roll:


I thought he had him killed with anti-aircraft guns?

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by Preezy » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:32 pm

Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:Although I can't trust NK just yet. It wasn't that long ago that Kim had his uncle assassinated in an airport.

That was his half-brother. He had his uncle fed to starving dogs :roll:


I thought he had him killed with anti-aircraft guns?

Nah that was just a couple of his top generals. He's not a monster, you know.

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PostRe: North Korea and South Korea to "announce end of war" that started in 1950
by NickSCFC » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:04 am

Kim Jong-Un has entered South Korea, the first North Korean leader to do so in 65 years

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-43914208

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PostRe: Kim Jong-un visits South Korea for historic summit
by Return_of_the_STAR » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:57 am

I’m still finding this all very very weird.

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PostRe: Kim Jong-un visits South Korea for historic summit
by Cheeky Devlin » Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:04 am

Maybe he's just popped over to South Korea so he can see Avengers?

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PostRe: Kim Jong-un visits South Korea for historic summit
by NickSCFC » Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:08 am

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... eting-live

Kim and Moon hammered out a joint statement that is short on concrete steps and heavy on aspirational goals. It’s mostly about holding more talks between the two side on issues ranging from families divided by the Korean war to transport links.

There’s one section about denuclearisation, but it only repeats the general idea that “the South and North have confirmed their common goal of realizing a nuclear-free Korean peninsula”.

Here are the highlights:

- They will hold talks on formally establishing a peace treaty

- Agreed to “urgently resolve” humanitarian issues of divided families

- The two sides will work together to “ease the sharp military tensions on the Korean peninsula” and defense ministers will meet in May

- Starting May 1, all propaganda activities, including loudspeakers and leaflets, will be halted.

- Moon will visit Pyongyang in the autumn.They agreed to establish an inter-Korean joint liaison office in Kaeseong

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PostRe: Kim Jong-un visits South Korea for historic summit
by Preezy » Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:01 am

Well, it's all a bit weird and suspicious, but at least it's positive. Can't always be too cynical about these things :shifty:

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PostRe: Kim Jong-un visits South Korea for historic summit
by Moggy » Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:58 pm

It's just weird how quickly it went from FIRE AND FURY, to Kim popping over the border for a friendly chat.

I am not sure if we will ever know why this turned around so quickly, but it just seems suspicious. I guess this is how conspiracy theorists feel about everything. ;)

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PostRe: Kim Jong-un visits South Korea for historic summit
by Alvin Flummux » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:04 pm

South Korea's foreign minister reportedly credited Trump with this whole thing. :dread:

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PostRe: Kim Jong-un visits South Korea for historic summit
by Moggy » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:10 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:South Korea's foreign minister reportedly credited Trump with this whole thing. :dread:


Imagine if we are wrong about Trump and Kanye West is right. :dread:

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PostRe: Kim Jong-un visits South Korea for historic summit
by Mini E » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:16 pm

This is all incredibly disconcerting.

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PostRe: Kim Jong-un visits South Korea for historic summit
by lex-man » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:49 pm

I still think at some stage Kim's going to blow raspberries and run off, or sign a document and then completely ignore everything it says. Probably, the second thing.

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PostRe: Kim Jong-un visits South Korea for historic summit
by False » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:50 pm

I dont know if anyone said it in this thread, but there are aerial photos and reports from Chinese scientists which would seem to indicate that the NK nuclear testing facility actually collapsed after the final test. That would provide some basis for a quick turnaround and apparant willingness to abandon current strategy.

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