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PostOf hitting kids and stuff.
by Squinty » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:20 pm

Inspired by a thread I read on the Neogaf forum ( :dread: )

Do you believe in corporal punishment? This is something that has piqued my interest recently, as I have a young nephew who will be coming to that age in a year or two where he will be into anything and everything. I'm interested to see how his parents will deal with any bad behaviour.

Is it okay to beat children with sticks? Or is another form of discipline more equally effective (the Fritzl technique etc)

Just interested to hear from any parents on here.

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PostRe: Of hitting kids and stuff.
by Moggy » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:31 pm

The Fritzl technique is the only one that is guaranteed to keep your kids away from other people. ;)

My lad is too young to be properly punished, he just wouldn’t understand. We say “no”, move him away from whatever naughtiness he is doing and have put him in his cot a few times.

As he gets older, I don’t know what we will do, but I can’t imagine we will ever hit him. I don’t think corporal punishment really works and I can’t imagine myself hitting a small child like that.

But, who knows. He might drive me crazy and I might knock his teeth out at some point. ;)

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by Green Gecko » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:37 pm

In my experience being hit by adults stays with you forever, and it's not something I'd want to inflict. I'd sooner ignore or take away things like screens and dessert that are probably much more effective considering how obese and addicted kids are these days.

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PostRe: Of hitting kids and stuff.
by Errkal » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:41 pm

I think there are degrees of it. I don't agree with hitting and beating etc. but a small smack on the hand or something like that I don't think is a bad thing and can help them learn.

It is a tough one really wether it is an outright no never or well some element is reasonable because some point "no" and etc. isn't going to make them listen so as a last resort a smack on the hand seems ok to me.

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by Preezy » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:50 pm

I was put over my dad's knee and had my arse or back of my legs slapped a couple of time when I was a lad if I'd done something bad, I once kicked a hole in my front door and got a walloping for it which I can honestly say I deserved. Never got hit in the face or body though, it was always a slap on the arse or legs. I don't think it's affected me in my upbringing, I'm a normal person (stop laughing) and I don't hold it against my parents at all as I could be a tearaway at times.

Having said that, I don't think I'd ever be able to hit my daughter. She's into her terrible twos and can be a nightmare at times and it can be a real struggle to keep calm when she's throwing a wobbly because she can't have a banana or that she wants my phone to smash on the floor, but you learn to keep a lid on it and remember that she's still developing and you can't hold it against her.

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PostRe: Of hitting kids and stuff.
by Jam-Master Jay » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:57 pm

I used to get a beating whenever I misbehaved as a kid, it's not something I'd want to to inflict on any of my potential children.

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by Death's Head » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:15 pm

I used to get a smack when I was younger and when at junior school the headmaster had a cane and although there were various legends of caning, thinking about it, I think it was just a nuclear deterrent. I don't condone a beating, but I do think a smack should be acceptable and a useful deterrent. I pity teachers who have to face unruly kids of today.

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PostRe: Of hitting kids and stuff.
by Lotus » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:16 pm

Can't imagine it's something I'd ever do myself (not that I plan on having kids). I imagine it'd be tempting, as kids are beyond annoying, but even then I'm sure I'd decide against it. There has to be a way of telling a child that something they've done is wrong/dangerous, but generally shouting and something that shocks them rather than hurts them - like a slap on the back of the hand perhaps - would be enough I'd have thought.

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PostRe: Of hitting kids and stuff.
by Moggy » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:27 pm

Death's Head wrote:I pity teachers who have to face unruly kids of today.


I have heard plenty of stories from people that grew up in the days of the cane. Older people delight in telling people how much it hurt, how they came up with tactics to stop it hurting so much etc. One bloke I know was telling me that the school would set a date a few days later for the caning to take place, just so he had a few days to worry about it.

All that makes me think that the cane doesn’t stop unruly behaviour. They all seemed to get it so often and never stopped misbehaving. :lol:

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by Errkal » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:30 pm

Moggy wrote:
Death's Head wrote:I pity teachers who have to face unruly kids of today.


I have heard plenty of stories from people that grew up in the days of the cane. Older people delight in telling people how much it hurt, how they came up with tactics to stop it hurting so much etc. One bloke I know was telling me that the school would set a date a few days later for the caning to take place, just so he had a few days to worry about it.

All that makes me think that the cane doesn’t stop unruly behaviour. They all seemed to get it so often and never stopped misbehaving. :lol:


I imagine there is a load of spread of what was caned for, you start of with the serious gooseberry fool and then go "hey it works for that lets use it as a punishment for x" and so on to a point where you are caning for small stuff.

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PostRe: Of hitting kids and stuff.
by Preezy » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:31 pm

Yeah ultimately violence begets violence, it's not a deterrent and just introduces kids to violence at a very young age which can't be a good thing.

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PostRe: Of hitting kids and stuff.
by Lotus » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:40 pm

Death's Head wrote:I pity teachers who have to face unruly kids of today.

Out of all the people I know who trained to be teachers (about 8 or 9 people) none of them are still teaching. The most common reason is that they can't discipline the kids or do anything to stop them or punish them when they get inevitably get violent. The teachers have had desks thrown at them, chairs thrown at them, coffee thrown over them, been physically assaulted, etc etc. and the teachers can't do gooseberry fool. Detentions, suspensions, expelling them...the kids (nor the parents) don't give a gooseberry fool. I'm not saying the cane or a dropkick to the face would work either, but there's definitely a problem with discipline, and I'd hate to be a teacher in that kind of environment.

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PostRe: Of hitting kids and stuff.
by Photek » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:40 pm

I've never ever come close to hitting my little girl. She's a very sensitive girl and is extremely affectionate towards me and the wife. She always wants hugs and stuff and I know every parent thinks it but in all honesty, since birth she's been an absolute doddle. No terrible two's no late nights teething just all smiles and giggles. :wub:

We didn't research a lot when we became parents but basically let her be, we didn't force feed her every 4hrs if she didn't want to, didn't have any bed time and didn't till she started school and never restricted her from eating anything she wanted including sweets. Now not only is she well behaved but on the odd occasion she misbehaves by sulking mostly about things I just say I'm disappointed in her and she immediately stops and apologizes and its all swept aside. She has no longing for anything sweet, never ever complains when shopping about wanting treats and is doing well at school.

Being idiots we just stumbled into what so far has been easy parenting.

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PostRe: Of hitting kids and stuff.
by Met » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:41 pm

The little gooseberry fools probably deserve it.

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PostRe: Of hitting kids and stuff.
by <]:^D » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:42 pm

im sorry what?
if a kid throws something at a teacher they are OUT of that school

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PostRe: Of hitting kids and stuff.
by Moggy » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:47 pm

Lotus wrote:
Death's Head wrote:I pity teachers who have to face unruly kids of today.

Out of all the people I know who trained to be teachers (about 8 or 9 people) none of them are still teaching. The most common reason is that they can't discipline the kids or do anything to stop them or punish them when they get inevitably get violent. The teachers have had desks thrown at them, chairs thrown at them, coffee thrown over them, been physically assaulted, etc etc. and the teachers can't do gooseberry fool. Detentions, suspensions, expelling them...the kids (nor the parents) don't give a gooseberry fool. I'm not saying the cane or a dropkick to the face would work either, but there's definitely a problem with discipline, and I'd hate to be a teacher in that kind of environment.


None of that is new though. That used to go on in the 70s and 80s.

Kids should be expelled if they get violent, although I guess that just pushes the problem on to somebody else.

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PostRe: Of hitting kids and stuff.
by Lotus » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:48 pm

<]:^D wrote:im sorry what?
if a kid throws something at a teacher they are OUT of that school

Not necessarily. Even when I was at school my classmates would chuck stuff across the room at teachers and nothing would happen at all. And even if you exclude them, they don't care, so it's hardly a deterrent, whether at that school or another one they may end up going to.

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PostRe: Of hitting kids and stuff.
by <]:^D » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:51 pm

thats the teachers 'fault' if they dont report it - how will the kids learn that if they do that there will be consequences if there arent any!?
if the teacher brings that to the head then the kid is suspended and/or expelled.
how is hitting kids going to make them less violent/less likely to throw things at teachers?

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PostRe: Of hitting kids and stuff.
by Rax » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:51 pm

Corporal punishment is a bit bonkers, beating the life out of a kid for doing something wrong isnt the way to go. But a smack on the hand is a perfectly acceptable way to let them know what theyre doing is wrong. I cant see myself ever disciplining my daughter by putting her over my knee or taking the wooden spoon to her, (was that done in the UK or is it one of those uniquely Irish things?) but I dont seem the harm in a literal smack on the wrist, especially if shes grabbing at things when she shouldnt. I guess Im lucky in the sense that my parents never hit me or my brothers, not that I can remember anyway, we got a smack on the wrist or a clip round the ear when we were being cheeky, but never a full on spanking or anything like that. Got the ol' "we're disappointed in you" a couple of times, it never worked but good on them for trying I guess.

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PostRe: Of hitting kids and stuff.
by OrangeRakoon » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:53 pm

You shouldn't hit kids, you might hurt your hand. Use a shock collar instead.

My parents are great but I remember locking myself in the bathroom one time because I was scared I was gonna get hit. Not anything I'd ever like to replicate


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