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Re: Oil protesters throw soup on the glass protecting Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:49 pm
by Vermilion
Re: Oil protesters throw soup on the glass protecting Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:51 pm
by Prototype
Not the correct colour of powder for ronnie o'sullivan though amirite
Re: Oil protesters throw soup on the glass protecting Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:00 pm
by Qikz
The only thing that should frame IDS' head is this
Re: Oil protesters throw soup on the glass protecting Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:02 pm
by OrangeRKN
jawa_ wrote:The results for "Should protesting be banned?" were along the lines of "No 95.6%" and "Yes 4.4%".
Presenting the question like that is dangerous enough. It's a kind of push polling - it sets up a false equivalence between yes and no by presenting both as legitimate, acceptable opinions, and it suggests to anyone being asked that banning protest must be a common opinion that they should consider and that it is reasonable for society to consider.
It's not a reasonable question for our society to consider, banning protest would go against the fundamentals of a free democracy. Responsible media should not indiciate it as an open debate or legitimise the stance. Even though the vast majority can be seen to disagree and support the right to protest, it makes the alternative more acceptable - should a government make moves to ban protest (as our current government already has and wishes to do moreso), people who have been subjected to polls like this may think "well I don't agree with it, but the government can do that" because it has been framed as a debate, rather than thinking "this cannot be allowed to happen".
Re: Oil protesters throw soup on the glass protecting Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:05 pm
by Vermilion
Qikz wrote:The only thing that should frame IDS' head is this
Are you sure we have enough rotten veg to throw?
Re: Oil protesters throw soup on the glass protecting Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:09 pm
by Moggy
Qikz wrote:The only thing that should frame IDS' head is this
This would be better.
Re: Oil protesters throw soup on the glass protecting Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:13 pm
by jawa_
OrangeRKN wrote:jawa_ wrote:The results for "Should protesting be banned?" were along the lines of "No 95.6%" and "Yes 4.4%".
Presenting the question like that is dangerous enough. It's a kind of push polling - it sets up a false equivalence between yes and no by presenting both as legitimate, acceptable opinions, and it suggests to anyone being asked that banning protest must be a common opinion that they should consider and that it is reasonable for society to consider.
It's not a reasonable question for our society to consider, banning protest would go against the fundamentals of a free democracy...
You're absolutely right, IMHO, Orange, but personally I wouldn't read too much into it. Most media is now geared towards "outrage" just to try and get some eyes on their paper/website. They *want* to wind us up and cause us to get a bit annoyed.. and post letters/responses about it. They sure don't want us thinking "yeah, that sounds okay... so I won't read any more and will move on to something else".
I'm thinking about making my "
jawa asks..." thread titles a wee bit more provocative in order to drive more interaction ;-).
Re: Oil protesters throw soup on the glass protecting Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:15 pm
by jawa_
Moggy wrote:This would be better.
Those three guys look like they're... smiling? Happy in their work!
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Re: Oil protesters throw soup on the glass protecting Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:19 pm
by kazanova_Frankenstein
I joke about assaulting a 25 year old standing on someone else's pool table (an indisputably funny image) and there is uproar, another jokes about decapitating a 69 year old and it is met with joy and adoration.
Fine, fine margins.
Re: Oil protesters throw soup on the glass protecting Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:23 pm
by BID0
so much for the tolerant left
Re: Oil protesters throw soup on the glass protecting Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:30 pm
by Moggy
kazanova_Frankenstein wrote:I joke about assaulting a 25 year old standing on someone else's pool table (an indisputably funny image) and there is uproar, another jokes about decapitating a 69 year old and it is met with joy and adoration.
Fine, fine margins.
1. I wasn't joking.
2. If you love IDS so much, then you can sew his head back on and strawberry float him. Which works very well with your username.
Re: Oil protesters throw soup on the glass protecting Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:31 pm
by OrangeRKN
kaz this stool bloke roleplay is getting out of hand
Re: Oil protesters throw soup on the glass protecting Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:34 pm
by Vermilion
jawa_ wrote:Moggy wrote:This would be better.
Those three guys look like they're... smiling? Happy in their work!
.
Reminds me of Baldrick in Blackadder 2.
Re: Oil protesters throw soup on the glass protecting Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:34 pm
by kazanova_Frankenstein
Tough crowd
Moggy wrote:kazanova_Frankenstein wrote:I joke about assaulting a 25 year old standing on someone else's pool table (an indisputably funny image) and there is uproar, another jokes about decapitating a 69 year old and it is met with joy and adoration.
Fine, fine margins.
1. I wasn't joking.
2. If you love IDS so much, then you can sew his head back on and strawberry float him. Which works very well with your username.
Safe to assume i'm the monster, and therefore can't, as my nuts are in my neck.
Re: Oil protesters throw soup on the glass protecting Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:35 pm
by Victor Mildew
Vermilion wrote:Qikz wrote:The only thing that should frame IDS' head is this
Are you sure we have enough rotten veg to throw?
Re: Oil protesters throw soup on the glass protecting Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 3:07 pm
by Hypes
False wrote:Hypes wrote:It works. Got people talking about Just Stop Oil again.
Some people will fantasize about the protesters being beaten up or call for them to be hanged. Some people will do nothing. Other people might consider their usage of oil, change things in their personal lives, vote for greener MPs, councillors, or join environmental groups.
how many times does it have to be shown that its not the end consumer that needs to adjust their habits, but the captains of industry
great ill use less electric, less fuel, eat local, carry my shopping on foot in my arms - huh some megacorp burned more energy in a day than i would in two lifetimes? i better start weaving my own clothes too
100% agree. But that's only going to happen with changes in regulation. Which requires increased public awareness and/or changes in government
Re: Oil protesters throw soup on the glass protecting Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:33 pm
by Robbo-92
Better they disrupt a Snooker match for a bit rather than gluing themselves to a lane or two of the M25 in my opinion, that is just ridiculously dangerous.
Re: Oil protesters throw soup on the glass protecting Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:06 pm
by Moggy
twitter.com/saucyseventies/status/1648234917954994184
She didn't care at all about the working classes.
Re: Oil protesters throw soup on the glass protecting Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:42 am
by speedboatchase
kazanova_Frankenstein wrote:I joke about assaulting a 25 year old standing on someone else's pool table (an indisputably funny image) and there is uproar, another jokes about decapitating a 69 year old and it is met with joy and adoration.
Fine, fine margins.
The protestor was a Good Person. IDS is a Bad Person.
Re: Oil protesters throw soup on the glass protecting Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:01 am
by Dual
Love me snooker. Love me right to protest. HATE protesters (not a fascist just don't like 'em) Simple as.
