One Man's Spy... The End

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PostRe: One Man's Spy... The End
by Mommy Christmas » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:15 pm

Moggy wrote:The WhatsApp chat in Alpha group was amazing in the first few days of the game. I genuinely haven't laughed that much in a long time.

I think Drumstick might have been genuinely pissed off when we executed him. Apologies if it did mate, we came up with a plan to off the spy, get the extra action per day and go hell for leather for the super weapon. At the last minute I almost swapped you with Parksey, but we decided to stick with the order of execution that we had already decided on.


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PostRe: One Man's Spy... The End
by Qikz » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:16 pm

Mommy you did the one thing I told you not to do on the day I died as well. Why did you randomly fire all three of our missiles :fp: :lol:

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PostRe: One Man's Spy... The End
by Roonmastor » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:16 pm

By the by Moggy, we saved your arse on Turn 2. Getting the blower turn one was very bold. I had a nice window as turn 2 blower to point out the special item had moved from C7 to X, when it should have moved from A7, but decided it wasn't in my interest.

Had Alpha won the 2nd blower...oof.

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PostRe: One Man's Spy... The End
by Herdanos » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:18 pm

:toot:

WP to Parksey for the shift you put in as our spy. Sorry for bothering you so much when you were busy!

Think it's really interesting that we won despite losing our spy first. If anything that whole disaster / getting Qikz wrong, made us more determined to see out the game - certainly it made us want to get the Ultimate Powerup and carve a path to it.

We were dead against the Alphas running for Blower until we realised literally everyone in the game knew Moggy was the spy. Mommy being Blower would move the UP to X meaning we knew we could get it on B7 if I were Blower the subsequent turn.

Apologies to Rula. You were unlucky. Someone feeding your name (Moggy I presume) through the Charlie chat and back to us, meant you were a suspicion we just couldn't shake... it was also poor fortune that you were the last legit Bravo to not be verified, so it was a toss-up between you and Qikz, and we thought you being quiet was sus. Sorry mate.

Qikz you played a good game as a convincing non-spy, well done! I was so sure there was a good reason for trusting you, but it turns out there wasn't. :lol: The bluff of openly naming Rula (whoever decided that) was one that paid off.

Big WP to my comrades Roon and Preezy, it was a pleasure to theorise with you both and plot out the best way ahead. We called it right. I think Roon's tactical decisions in the last couple of days ultimately won it for us.

I found the constant PM-ing and vying for allegiances to be quite exhausting :slol: OB I don't know how you do it! Though I was relieved that the Charlies betrayed us at the same point we had intended to betray them.

This was a very welcome distraction at a good time for me so one final WP and thank you to Ob Bob, this was great. Cheers for running it!

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PostRe: One Man's Spy... The End
by Moggy » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:19 pm

Roonmastor wrote:By the by Moggy, we saved your arse on Turn 2. Getting the blower turn one was very bold. I had a nice window as turn 2 blower to point out the special item had moved from C7 to X, when it should have moved from A7, but decided it wasn't in my interest.

Had Alpha won the 2nd blower...oof.


I never asked to be blower on turn 1! I seemed to get nominated but as a spy, I wouldn't have run at that stage!

I was genuinely considering coming clean with Staydead and offering to work together to destroy Bravo first. But there was a big doubt in my mind that he'd go for it, so I held off. I wish I'd gone for it, would have been fun.

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PostRe: One Man's Spy... The End
by Oblomov Boblomov » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:21 pm

Special mention to the spies, who put in a hell of a shift and coped expertly with what they could have easily ballsed up very quickly. I think it became a full-time job for Qikz for a while :lol: :wub:.

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PostRe: One Man's Spy... The End
by Drumstick » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:23 pm

Thanks for running, OB.

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PostRe: One Man's Spy... The End
by Herdanos » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:25 pm

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:The first that springs to mind: Dan, a) did you ever realise what happened on Turn Ten, and b) if so, was it actually an insane ploy that ultimately paid off masterfully?!

If yes to b) I will forever bow down to you. But instinct tells me the answer to a) is '...huh, what?' :lol: :lol:


:shifty:

This was the turn where we fired all-out on Alpha, as per our agreement with Charlie, but they didn't follow suit?

We also proposed to meet them at X, but that part was a bluff by us, as we couldn't fire all the missiles and move to X, as we were more than one move away.

But the way we worded it in the PM to the Charlies (as we knew their location) made it seem like we were telling them we were on B7, without outright saying as such. I listed the proposed order of actions that we should both submit.

... so if that's what you're referring to, I guess yes, it was intentional?

And if that's not what you're referring to, then I've no idea :slol:

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PostRe: One Man's Spy... The End
by Oblomov Boblomov » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:25 pm

Please feel free to share any team chat highlights. There is far, far too much for me to trawl through, but so much gold within! I know there were huge amounts I wasn't ever privy to.

The Dan/Roon combo in these final few days is possibly the smartest and most effective I have ever seen in a game.

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PostRe: One Man's Spy... The End
by Moggy » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:25 pm

Herdanos wrote:
Apologies to Rula. You were unlucky. Someone feeding your name (Moggy I presume) through the Charlie chat and back to us, meant you were a suspicion we just couldn't shake... it was also poor fortune that you were the last legit Bravo to not be verified, so it was a toss-up between you and Qikz, and we thought you being quiet was sus. Sorry mate.


At one point I sent a text to each member of my group telling them they'd been rumbled and should come clean. I didn't expect anybody to admit it, but I should have realised then that Parksey was the spy as he read it, took ages to reply. :lol: And then when I asked him privately who he suspected, he took ages again after reading and replied with a "oh I'm really busy, I'll get back to you later".

I did drop a different name to each member though, saying something like "ok I believe you, but I am tempted to work with XXX against..." For Parksey's message, I used Rula's name, so that might be where the suspicion of him came from?

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PostRe: One Man's Spy... The End
by Oblomov Boblomov » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:26 pm

Herdanos wrote:
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:The first that springs to mind: Dan, a) did you ever realise what happened on Turn Ten, and b) if so, was it actually an insane ploy that ultimately paid off masterfully?!

If yes to b) I will forever bow down to you. But instinct tells me the answer to a) is '...huh, what?' :lol: :lol:


:shifty:

This was the turn where we fired all-out on Alpha, as per our agreement with Charlie, but they didn't follow suit?

We also proposed to meet them at X, but that part was a bluff by us, as we couldn't fire all the missiles and move to X, as we were more than one move away.

But the way we worded it in the PM to the Charlies (as we knew their location) made it seem like we were telling them we were on B7, without outright saying as such. I listed the proposed order of actions that we should both submit.

... so if that's what you're referring to, I guess yes, it was intentional?

And if that's not what you're referring to, then I've no idea :slol:


Nope :lol:

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PostRe: One Man's Spy... The End
by Herdanos » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:27 pm

Oh my god :lol:

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PostRe: One Man's Spy... The End
by Drumstick » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:28 pm

Moggy wrote:The WhatsApp chat in Alpha group was amazing in the first few days of the game. I genuinely haven't laughed that much in a long time.

I think Drumstick might have been genuinely pissed off when we executed him. Apologies if it did mate, we came up with a plan to off the spy, get the extra action per day and go hell for leather for the super weapon. At the last minute I almost swapped you with Parksey, but we decided to stick with the order of execution that we had already decided on.

Nah, I don't hold grudges over forum games. It was more a sense of total and utter bewilderment at how I could be deemed less trustworthy than any of the other non-confirmed loyalists.

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PostRe: One Man's Spy... The End
by Moggy » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:30 pm

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Moggy wrote:The WhatsApp chat in Alpha group was amazing in the first few days of the game. I genuinely haven't laughed that much in a long time.

I think Drumstick might have been genuinely pissed off when we executed him. Apologies if it did mate, we came up with a plan to off the spy, get the extra action per day and go hell for leather for the super weapon. At the last minute I almost swapped you with Parksey, but we decided to stick with the order of execution that we had already decided on.

Nah, I don't hold grudges over forum games. It was more a sense of total and utter bewilderment at how I could be deemed less trustworthy than any of the other non-confirmed loyalists.


There was pretty much nothing against you, we just drew up a list. In hindsight, Parksey should have been at the top, but even then it was pretty flimsy evidence against him really.

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PostRe: One Man's Spy... The End
by Roonmastor » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:40 pm

Mad props to Parksey as our spy. His early doors work at keeping everything on a need to know basis really helped us get established. Our General that lead us marvellously and was sorely missed when he was gone.

DarkRula played his role superbly. Early leader who get up the verification circle for Parksey and then patiently stepped back for his call up. If it wasn't for some bad theorising on my part and some good play from the Alpha and Charlie spies (whether coordinated or lucky), and the luck of the verifyer, we'd have had you with us.

Qikz, I think I should have been Sus when I realised we were thinking the same and getting along much better than we do in AYA? I assumed it was because you didn't have a load of secret PM chats going so we had finally found out groove. A bit gutted when I found out you were the spy, but you had us convinced you were Bravo so fair play there.

Herdanos and Preezy, absolute beasts as team mates. Great for bouncing theories off, Dan a machine at subterfuge, Preezy with the right level of bloodlust. Both clever enough to pull me back from my craziest theories and backing them when the time was right. I'm sorry I almost messed up one of our plans by not actually sending the PM to ally with the Charlies and almost firing on them in retaliation. But at least I didn't send them out attack confirmation by accident :slol:

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PostRe: One Man's Spy... The End
by Roonmastor » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:42 pm

Moggy wrote:
Herdanos wrote:
Apologies to Rula. You were unlucky. Someone feeding your name (Moggy I presume) through the Charlie chat and back to us, meant you were a suspicion we just couldn't shake... it was also poor fortune that you were the last legit Bravo to not be verified, so it was a toss-up between you and Qikz, and we thought you being quiet was sus. Sorry mate.


At one point I sent a text to each member of my group telling them they'd been rumbled and should come clean. I didn't expect anybody to admit it, but I should have realised then that Parksey was the spy as he read it, took ages to reply. :lol: And then when I asked him privately who he suspected, he took ages again after reading and replied with a "oh I'm really busy, I'll get back to you later".

I did drop a different name to each member though, saying something like "ok I believe you, but I am tempted to work with XXX against..." For Parksey's message, I used Rula's name, so that might be where the suspicion of him came from?


Yep, this was super effective.

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PostRe: One Man's Spy... The End
by Roonmastor » Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:54 pm

Right, I'll post the Bravo chat below in two parts to get around the smilie limit. I've also had to replace some smilies with the best alternative, and some gifs and such won't come over. Enjoy!

Bravo Team Chat on Discord:

Part 1: The Spy Era

Team Bravo

DanCRobbo 30/01/2024
@MrParksey can you add Roon to this chat?
MrParksey added Roonmastor to the group. 30/01/20244
DanCRobbo added Preezy to the group. 30/01/20248

DanCRobbo 30/01/2024
Right that's all of us!

Preezy 30/01/2024
Preezy has entered the game!

Qikz 30/01/2024
I'm going to invite yall to the GRCade server as well if you're not in there. If the forum ever goes down people usually post about it in there

Preezy 30/01/2024
between this and the whatsapp groups we might as well just shut the GR server down
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DanCRobbo 30/01/2024
So what moves do we want to make this turn?
@MrParksey - let us know what the Charlies end up doing
Of course, we have to factor in that one of you lot will be telling the Alphas that too...

Qikz 30/01/2024
I'm genuinely not sure how this game is meant to work, because if every team has a spy every team will know every other teams action
but then I'm not sure I really understand the rules either as I've not had time to properly read them so maybe knowing is only half the battle

DanCRobbo 30/01/2024
Well we'll only know one other team's action yeah
But we need to somehow identify which of the five of us (not including Parksey) is the spy
As Parksey can't ever be our leader
And we all have to take turns
It's possible whoever is the spy might submit false turn instructions to OB

Qikz 30/01/2024
If the spy sends in false turn instructions wouldn't that just give them up though?
Since I'm assuming everyone sees the result of the night actions or at least the team see their own?

DarkRula 30/01/2024
Yeah, I'd imagine the spy wouldn't get away with a wrong submission. Since we as a team would see that in the new turn report.

Qikz 30/01/2024
I need to properly read the rules later on so I understand how this all works but hopefully as the game goes on it'll just kinda click
I did skim read it yesterday and it seems like Obbob has really thought this through so it should be fun to play at least

DanCRobbo 30/01/2024
Given the layout of the map it should be tough for any one team to be the Blower more than once in a row

Preezy 30/01/2024
"Meanwhile, each team must secretly decide on their two actions for the turn. The action options are:
Move by one tile (forwards or backwards)
Verify one loyalist (receive one verification chosen at random from the pool of members truly loyal to your team)
Equip one forcefield (you must specify who will receive the forcefield)
Fire one missile (you must specify which tile to fire on and which player)"

Qikz 30/01/2024 01
Are we all on the same tile to begin with or are we all spread out? (just reading that not the thread)

Preezy 30/01/2024 01
who are we giving the forcefield to?
and who are we going to fire a missile at?

Qikz 30/01/2024 02
You only get two of those - so I guess it depends if we want to fire right away, but I'm thinking it would make sense to give you the forcefield?
although I guess until you're found out by team charlie you might not need it?

DanCRobbo 30/01/2024 03
We all stay on the same tile

Preezy 30/01/2024 04
you mean give Parksey the forcefield Qikz? Not sure why I'd need it over anyone else in the team

DanCRobbo 30/01/2024 04
We all have 2HP

Qikz 30/01/2024 04
If Charlie find out you're not one of them they'll kill you I'm assuming?
oh ok if we all have 2HP we could maybe wait to use that lol

DanCRobbo 30/01/2024 05
I would be surprised if any of the other teams fire missiles yet


Qikz
If Charlie find out you're not one of them they'll kill you I'm assuming?
Preezy 30/01/2024 05
It's Parksey that's our spy in Charlie, not me ;)

Qikz 30/01/2024 06
Well hell this isn't confusing at all
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I thought I was talking to parksey lmao
Sorry facepalm

MrParksey 30/01/20240
I believe we are all on the same tile and we move as a team.

I'm in Charlie and I know their spy in Alpha. But we have one Alpha member in here with us.

I can't be leader.

Everyone can only be leader once before the cycle resets again.

We can pick two actions today
I'm the only trustworthy player.

No-one should make decisions unilaterally - ideally, without going power mad, I should decide everything after discussing it with you all here.

I then dictate the action to the day's leader.

That's my working summary of what we need to move forward with a decision today.

I believe we should do a rota for leadership, Even if we verify a player, it has to cycle through everyone else in the team

If we set a rota, we know in advance who will be mayor on what day - we have a line of responsibility so can pick up if someone "misses" their vote or we don't get an action that we plan for.

Downside of a rota is that we can't be flexible - if we think Player X is trustworthy and Player Y is gonna do something dodgy, we may not be able to parachute someone in quickly.

Preezy 30/01/20245
so... anyone wanna fess up that they're the spy? :slol:

Qikz 30/01/20240
Seems like something a spy would say to me Thonk

Preezy 30/01/20241
:lol:
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Qikz 30/01/20241
Parksey should be able to get the identity of the spy from Charlie - but based on my very poor understanding of how things work it doesn't seem to be beneficial for anyone to out any of the spies early or Parksey would've just told us who Charlie's spy is right away. I think the second a spy is exposed all three are basically exposed

Roonmastor 30/01/20242
Just got a min before I head out and not read this chat, but my initial gut was a move and a verify for our turn.


Qikz
Parksey should be able to get the identity of the spy from Charlie - but based on my very poor understanding of how things work it doesn't seem to be beneficial for anyone to out any of the spies early or Parksey would've just told us who Charlie's spy is right away. I think the second a spy is exposed all three are basically exposed
MrParksey 30/01/20245
I know Charlie's spy in Alpha, but we have an Alpha member in this chat.

Qikz 30/01/20246
Yeah, which is why I think it doesn't make sense for any team to expose the others spy

MrParksey 30/01/20246
Charlie are not set on an action yet. There was activity in the group chat late last night and early today, but everyone is presumably at work now

Qikz 30/01/20246
their spy being alive is beneficial for us since they get you info on Alpha unless I'm missunderstanding?
Qikz changed the channel name: Team Bravo 30/01/20246

Qikz 30/01/20247
I need to remember that DanCRobbo is Herdanos and not Robbo-92 lol
Oh I can set him a nickname for just myself, problem solved


MrParksey
Charlie are not set on an action yet. There was activity in the group chat late last night and early today, but everyone is presumably at work now
DanCRobbo 30/01/2024 03
Plus two of them are in different timezones

DanCRobbo 30/01/20243
Do we need to add OB? Feels like it's a power move at this point
Or, rather, not doing so would be a sign of weakness?

Qikz 30/01/20248
I mean it might be useful given the rules are confusing enough that we may need his clarification on things

MrParksey 30/01/20248
OB is in the Charlie chat.
DanCRobbo added 44Redshaw to the group. 30/01/20240

DanCRobbo 30/01/20240
Hello OB

Qikz 30/01/20241
So according to the thread that means Oblomov is in all three chats I guess now he's here (he confirmed Charlie and Alpha before) (edited)


Qikz
I'm going to invite yall to the GRCade server as well if you're not in there. If the forum ever goes down people usually post about it in there
Preezy 30/01/20246
Go on then x

44Redshaw 30/01/20247
Hi everyone. Haven't ever really used Discord before! Forgot I had this old account
To clarify something I saw mentioned earlier: every team starts with 0 missiles and 1 forcefield. So it is impossible for any team to fire a missile on the first turn

Preezy 30/01/20248
i've got a big rocket right here for you Ob

44Redshaw 30/01/20249
See your team status update in the first group PM I sent. You'll get one at the end of every turn.
Every team gains one missile at the end of every turn, and one forcefield at the end of every two turns


Preezy
i've got a big rocket right here for you Ob
44Redshaw 30/01/20249
Oh yeeeaaahh :toot:

Qikz 30/01/20249
Is the game going to look like this at the end of day 5?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCpjgl2baLs
AlbinoBlackSheep
The End of the World

FIRE ZE MISSILES

44Redshaw 30/01/20240
Yes but with more nudity

Qikz 30/01/20240

DanCRobbo 30/01/20245
That gif hasn't aged well...
So if we know nobody else has any Missiles surely the best move is to verify two players?

Preezy 30/01/2024 05
pick me coach!

DanCRobbo 30/01/2024 07
I think it's random

Preezy 30/01/2024 08
well then, may the odds be forever in my favour
but yeah let's verify x2, seems like the way to go

DanCRobbo 30/01/2024 13
Makes a mini trusted circle within our group alongside Parksey
They can then root out the spy by keeping the rest of us in the dark on decisions
Thus starving Alpha of our Intel and giving us an advantage
Though Alpha will know that's our plan now.

Preezy 30/01/2024 15
we can't be concerned with other teams knowing what we're doing, we just have to focus on ourselves

MrParksey 30/01/2024 09
There's no timed deadline for me to PM OB with our actions, right?
As long as I get it in today

Qikz 30/01/2024 14
Wait, so the leader doesn't have to PM oblomov? What's the purpose of the leader or do I just need to read the rules
I'll be finished work in about 3 hours so I'll properly catch myself up then

MrParksey 30/01/2024 17
Sorry my mistake. I can't be leader

Roonmastor 30/01/2024 19
Just needs to be done in a reasonable time I think, and turn won't tick without a Blower being voted. Not sure who we vote for that as they get to move the X towards their team. Obvs voting Parksey is a bit obvious, and so is the bluff of us all piling in on some other person in Charlie. So we would make more sense maybe to vote for someone Alpha but that probably plays into our spies hand.

Just remember that moving gets us an ability too, so move and verify may be as good as 2x verify. But I'm not strongly viewed either way. Benefit of two verified means we can't lose our verified members in one go, but having only one means it's easier to use a protect on them.

MrParksey 30/01/2024 19
But one of us needs to be, and needs to PM OB

I suggested putting leadership on a rota, but the decision for action would be mine (as the sole trustworthy player, though we would increase this to a trusted circle as we verify).

The planned action would be stated here, so we know if the leader then unilaterally acted alone.

I would PM the leader the action so that only one person was in the know before it was carried out. To reduce the risk of Alpha getting wind (though obviously, one of the Leaders on the rota will be Alpha).
I am a bit unsure about verification.

We are likely going to have to work with a spy in our ranks for a few days at least. Best to get our structure down to minimise their impact and their chances to sabotage (and making any sabotage fatal to them).

Qikz 30/01/2024 21
I think any sabotage is going to be fatal for any spy because the second you do anything that goes against what Charlie wants for example they'll just instantly out and kill you

Preezy 30/01/2024 21
I'm happy to be leader today to prove my loyalty to the Bravo cause o7

Roonmastor 30/01/2024 24
Happy to go with Parksey's plan as it is as good as any plan.

DanCRobbo 30/01/2024 37
Staying on our current tile also gets us a power I think?

Roonmastor 30/01/2024 44
How the game is played

Each turn will see the following actions:

(1) In-thread, a democratic vote will elect a Blower. The Blower will be responsible for blowing the Ob Bob Horn. Blowing the Ob Bob Horn will cover the Blower in a magical protective substance, giving the Blower immunity from attacks on that turn.

(2) Meanwhile, each team must secretly decide on their two actions for the turn. The action options are:
Move by one tile (forwards or backwards)
Verify one loyalist (receive one verification chosen at random from the pool of members truly loyal to your team)
Equip one forcefield (you must specify who will receive the forcefield)
Fire one missile (you must specify which tile to fire on and which player)
A Leader for the turn must PM me privately (i.e. without copying in their team members) to confirm the two actions. I will reply to them (also privately) to confirm the outcome of their actions. I will accept confirmed actions from any player on the team, however each player can only be Leader once. When every surviving team member has been Leader, this allowance resets.

(3) (Optional) At any time, if at least half of the remaining players from any team vote to execute a member of their team, they may do so by PMing me together. This will not cost the team an action. If at any point there are only two players remaining in a team and one of them is the Spy, the last loyal member will automatically be executed, the team will lose, and the Spy will rejoin their true team.


Assuming (1) has been completed, the turn ends after each team has completed (2)
How to gain the upper hand

Obtain the powerup found on each tile of the map by ending your turn on that tile. There is only one quantity of each powerup.
The powerups increase in power as you progress along the tiles. The powerup on the fourth tile will benefit every team.
The ultimate powerup starts at tile X. Once per turn, it will be moved closer to the team to which the Blower swears allegiance. Obtaining this powerup will give you a huge advantage.
PMs are open. Perhaps you can persuade the other teams to target each other…


Rules

1. PMs from me may be described but never quoted, copy/pasted or screenshotted. You may fabricate or adjust the content of my PMs when describing them to anyone else, but you mustn’t produce a fake image purporting to be a PM from me.
2. You cannot fire a missile onto your own tiles.
3. Teams may choose to carry out the same action twice per turn.
4. Spies are not based with their true teams, therefore they cannot carry out actions as a Leader for their true team. However, they may carry out actions as a Leader for the team they have infiltrated.
5. A Blower must be elected in-thread each turn. You cannot vote for a Blower from your own team.


General information

1. If a Spy remains alive when their true team has been destroyed, the Spy will flee to the tile their true team last inhabited.
2. At the beginning of the game, with 15 active players, the number of votes required to elect a Blower is 5. This number will be reduced by one for every third death.
3. Anyone can be elected as the Blower, even if they were the Blower in the previous turn.
4. Each team gains one missile at the end of every turn, and one forcefield at the end of every second turn.
5. To fire a missile, you must target a tile and a player. If the team the player is on is on the tile you specified, that player will be hit.
6. Everyone starts with 1HP. The only way to gain HP is to equip a forcefield. Forcefields cannot be stacked, but they can be replaced
Not sure if I can post PMs but basically in our team PM is says one of us needs to post our actions by PM each day, and we have one forcefield.
Note that even if we put a structure in place, anyone can usurp the day's leader by simply PMing OB earlier, and then apportioning blame to whoever was due to be leader that day. Worth noting Parksey both for our defence and your offense.

DanCRobbo 30/01/2024 51
@44Redshaw Once a turn ends is there any sort of confirmation (either in thread, or given to teams privately) that actions have been carried out?


Roonmastor
Note that even if we put a structure in place, anyone can usurp the day's leader by simply PMing OB earlier, and then apportioning blame to whoever was due to be leader that day. Worth noting Parksey both for our defence and your offense.
DanCRobbo 30/01/2024 52
Surely we would know this has happened though?
Because we have to rotate who is leader

Roonmastor 30/01/2024 55
Yes, you're right. The only way it works is short-term, you put the PM in and then never reveal the outcome, but after five days it is clear who did the crime.
The easier blag is to be the leader today, do two verify, verify yourself and be hidden.
So Parksey has to pick our leader for today, we shouldn't self nominate

DanCRobbo 30/01/2024 56
But you can't verify yourself if you're a spy
And only the spy would want to blag


DanCRobbo
But you can't verify yourself if you're a spy
Roonmastor 30/01/2024 59
You have to PM OB verifyx2 and he will PM only the leader the result. Let's say Parksey does this in Charlie, he gets told two verified, and he tells the Charlie's he and someone else was verified. How would he get found out? Only he had the intel from OB


DanCRobbo
@44Redshaw Once a turn ends is there any sort of confirmation (either in thread, or given to teams privately) that actions have been carried out?
44Redshaw 30/01/2024 59
Private confirmation of actions is sent to the Leader

Deaths are confirmed in-thread
When the ultimate powerup is claimed, that will also be confirmed in-thread

Qikz 30/01/2024 59
I think it'd be difficult for the spy to make any kind of action without getting themselves killed in the early game for what you guys said above. Either they act and they immediately get found out or they get found out in 5 days. Parksey might be the best to talk about this given he has the role.
to talk to*

Roonmastor 30/01/2024 01
I think we need to de-risk ourselves and have Parksey say who he wants as our leader to PM OB

Preezy 30/01/2024 03
Yep that's smart, Parksey do it to OB anonymously (but pick me)


44Redshaw
Private confirmation of actions is sent to the Leader Deaths are confirmed in-thread When the ultimate powerup is claimed, that will also be confirmed in-thread
DanCRobbo 30/01/2024 10
How do we learn about the powerups we obtain then?

Qikz 30/01/2024 11
It says this above "Each team gains one missile at the end of every turn, and one forcefield at the end of every second turn."

I assume that's the same for all teams unless there's secret powers outside of the ultimate one that's also mentioned?
It's still confusing but thanks to the info dump I'm slowly starting to understand it lol

Roonmastor 30/01/2024 12
You get a power for every space you finish on if its your first time finishing on that space. I suspect this is told direct to the leader only.


Roonmastor
You get a power for every space you finish on if its your first time finishing on that space. I suspect this is told direct to the leader only.
DanCRobbo 30/01/2024 12
Yeah that's why I'm asking
If the powerup is ours (as a team) then I'm assuming OB will tell us - but then that gives away whether the leader has followed the group consensus
If the powerup is given only to the leader that's a concern! We need to root out the spy ASAP

MrParksey 30/01/2024 24
Ah okay, I didn't realise we didn't have the missiles already and had to earn them.

Makes our potential move clearer in my head.

44Redshaw 30/01/2024 58
Sorry I wanted to add more but got called into that meeting
People will be told if they are hit by a missile but not killed (so, if they had a forcefield equipped)

Preezy 30/01/2024 59
do these sexy love missiles kill in one hit?

44Redshaw 30/01/2024 59
The group receives a status update at the end of every turn (see the end of your original group PM for an example of this)


Preezy
do these sexy love missiles kill in one hit?
44Redshaw 30/01/2024 00
Yes, unless someone has a forcefield.
If you hit the right tile that a team is on, the player you target will definitely be hit. The only unknown is if they have a forcefield

Preezy 30/01/2024 00
GOTCHA

Qikz 30/01/2024 01
If you hit a tile and they've already moved do you miss?
How does movement work in the move order of things, do the missiles happen before someone would move?

44Redshaw 30/01/2024 01
Movement happens first for all teams. If you strike the tile they're on at the end of their turn, you will definitely hit the player you target

Qikz 30/01/2024 02
Ah thanks for confirming

Preezy 30/01/2024 02
so we have the potential dilemma of firing a missile that might not hit anything
because we won't know if a team decides to move or not

44Redshaw 30/01/2024 03
That's right. Although I hear there is plenty of intel flying around...

Preezy 30/01/2024 04
not here :P

DanCRobbo 30/01/2024 20
Yeah we're out of the loop somewhat.
@MrParksey do you know anything of this Alpha Charlie allegiance?

MrParksey 30/01/2024 44
I'll have to read the Charlie thread back as I've been at work today. Though it hasn't been too active.

We also need to take our actions before 8pm. Which means deciding on a leader and how we will choose the leader going forward

I put forward the idea of a rota. I could also randomised the names each day, removing those already leading. Would stop the Spy being able to plan ahead.
I would then decide on the action, and PM that action to the leader, who sends it to OB.

That way, the spy won't get wind of what we are doing, unless the leader is the spy (which will happen at least once, inevitably)

Roonmastor 30/01/2024 02
As good a plan as I can think of. Go ahead Parksey.

DanCRobbo 30/01/2024 21
Yeah I agree

Qikz 30/01/2024 23
I've finally read all the rules and stuff and I agree as well

MrParksey 30/01/2024 33
I've ran the random number generator and PM'd the Day One Leader, who will now confirm that they can get our action in during the timeframe.

I'll then PM them the action.

DanCRobbo 30/01/2024 42
@44Redshaw How did Moggy win mayor?

Qikz 30/01/2024 45
yeah it looks like Cora is the same team as Moggy no?
It seems Obbob's post is the one that added Cora to Moggy as well lul

Preezy 30/01/2024 46

Qikz 30/01/2024 48
Then again reading the thread Moggy still would've been in the lead anyway from what I can tell

44Redshaw 30/01/2024 48
Oh FFS, I've totally ballsed that up haven't I :lol: read Cora's post as him voting for Moggy and forgot to check if he was on the same team
Let's go with Moggy still had the most votes anyway and we needed to do something to get things moving

Qikz 30/01/2024 49
You have so much stuff to track this game that it's understandable if you make a mistake

44Redshaw 30/01/2024 50
He says "vote in return for Moggy please" and I think I read that as him saying he'd vote for Moggy in return

Qikz 30/01/2024 51
Ahh I see what you mean yeah

MrParksey 30/01/2024 13
Hmm the leader on the random number generator hasn't responded to the PM.

Roonmastor 30/01/2024 28
We're all here in Discord since thought, right?
Has the PM gone out of your Outbox?

Qikz 30/01/2024 30
We're all in discord, could be the person didn't reply on grcade or something
everyone's online atm so hopefully it's sorted itsef

DanCRobbo 30/01/2024 31
I've legitimised the vote for you OB

MrParksey 30/01/2024 38
Today's leader has sent the action to OB. Just awaiting confirmation that it's been carried out.

44Redshaw 30/01/2024 43
I have received Team Bravo's actions. I will PM confirmation of the outcomes to the Leader later this evening
grtoot
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MrParksey 30/01/20240:12
I have also changed my mind in terms of revealing who was Leader today.

It's probably not that valuable in terms of intel, but at least his way, the spy won't know who has had their turn - just whether they have been picked.

Of course, should actions not be carried out as I stated, then we need to look at who was in charge.

DanCRobbo 30/01/2024 05
So what, we moved one tile and verified one player?

MrParksey 30/01/20244
My actions were carried out as stated.

DanCRobbo 30/01/20242
Yep it's turn two now
Parksey what is the status of Team Charlie?

Qikz 31/01/2024 09
Voting for blower, do we have any preference of what team? Alpha got it yesterday so if we can't get elected ourselves should we be going for Charlie instead?

MrParksey 31/01/20247
Qikz, do you not want to go for it? You're normally fairly prominent in these games.

Qikz 31/01/20248
People got mad at me last time for being too outward in the thread so I thought I'd stay quieter in the thread this time
Nobodies really posting in the thread anyways

MrParksey 31/01/20248
Yeah it's a ghost town. Probably the one flaw to the game is that everything gets done in secret.

Qikz 31/01/20249
I can't really work out who would want to vote for who either. Like I can see the benefit of voting for the team your team is spying on (alpha for bravo, bravo for charlie, charlie for alpha) but I'm not really sure if that's the best play or not (edited)
I guess we 100% don't want to be voting someone from alpha in since the weapon moved closer to them yesterday - but I guess do we want Charlie to get voted in either? The best play would be for us to have blower every day but I'm assuming it wouldn't be that easy

DanCRobbo 31/01/2024 06
The Blower only moves the "ultimate prize" one tile closer to their team each turn. If Alphas and Charlies have indeed come to an agreement behind the scenes (which could have happened without Parksey knowing, though we can't discount that the Alpha spy on our team might know) then they'll likely alternate. Which isn't a bad thing for us per se as it just means the prize will continually move between tile A7 and tile X. The caveat is, team Alpha might be counting on this - if they move twice on all three of their first three turns, and they are the Blower on turn three, they'll gain the prize.
If team Charlie's spy in Alpha is reporting back to Charlie what Alpha's plans are, in theory we would get a read (through Parksey) each day on what both teams are up to. But us knowing that intel would get fed back to Alpha anyway due to their spy within our team.
@Qikz There is no downside to you going for Blower.


DanCRobbo
The Blower only moves the "ultimate prize" one tile closer to their team each turn. If Alphas and Charlies have indeed come to an agreement behind the scenes (which could have happened without Parksey knowing, though we can't discount that the Alpha spy on our team might know) then they'll likely alternate. Which isn't a bad thing for us per se as it just means the prize will continually move between tile A7 and tile X. The caveat is, team Alpha might be counting on this - if they move twice on all three of their first three turns, and they are the Blower on turn three, they'll gain the prize.
DanCRobbo 31/01/20244
I wonder if there is any merit to me pointing this out in the thread. It'll rile up Drummy and Cora if nothing else. But it might sow some seeds of doubt among Charlie if they are indeed in cahoots with Alpha, in case they haven't factored in that it's a play for the ultimate powerup.

Preezy 31/01/20244
I've got quite a busy day at work today so won't be around too much, sorry guys

DanCRobbo 31/01/20245
Don't worry. Not much is happening.

Qikz 31/01/20245
I'll run for blower and see what happens I guess. Who wouldn't want a chance to blow Obbob's horn TPLove

DanCRobbo 31/01/20243
@MrParksey Do you know the tile location of either of the other teams?

MrParksey 31/01/20249
I know the location of Charlie but not Alpha.
I'll have to have a re-read of the Charlie chat and check if their spy has revealed the Alpha position

Roonmastor 31/01/20240
With the Blower, you have to assume the spy will move the X towards their true team, so for example Parksey could get voted and move it towards us. I guess that would have the same outcome as any other Charlie member though if it is on A7

Qikz 31/01/20240
if the spy moved it towards their true team wouldn't that just give them away? I'm assuming it would move it towards their current team - so Parksey would move it towards Charlie

Roonmastor 31/01/20241
I didn't think the position was reported anywhere?

DarkRula 31/01/20241
But privately, Charlie would see they hadn't moved despite one of their own being the blower


Roonmastor
I didn't think the position was reported anywhere?
Qikz 31/01/20242
we got a PM last night which showed our own position
oh the position of the weapon nvm

DarkRula 31/01/20247
Ah, yeah... The position of the weapon is unknown, but wouldn't that likely be because it's not in our sector?

MrParksey 31/01/20241
The blower is definitely on A7 right?

Qikz 31/01/20242
Oblomov said yesterday that the weapon moves one space closer to the team that was the blower right? Could that mean each team have their own weapon because otherwise I guess it would move back to the center?


MrParksey
The blower is definitely on A7 right?
DanCRobbo 31/01/20243
No


Qikz
Oblomov said yesterday that the weapon moves one space closer to the team that was the blower right? Could that mean each team have their own weapon because otherwise I guess it would move back to the center?
DanCRobbo 31/01/20243
No

Qikz 31/01/20244
"The ultimate powerup starts at tile X. Once per turn, it will be moved closer to the team to which the Blower swears allegiance. Obtaining this powerup will give you a huge advantage."

So it should be on A7 no?

DanCRobbo 31/01/20244
@44Redshaw if a spy is blower where does the ultimate weapon move - one tile closer to their public team or their true team?
The ultimate powerup should be on A7 yeah
Unless Moggy is a spy
Mommy :lol:

Qikz 31/01/2024 06
omg lul

DarkRula 31/01/20240
Tempted to respond back to that with a "Our spy is [INSERT NAME HERE] and would be happy for [INSERT TEAM NAME HERE] to take care of them."

DanCRobbo 31/01/20240
Do it
I was tempted to reply "strawberry float off Mommy" but I thought that might hinder our future options

Roonmastor 31/01/20245
Mommy :lol:

DarkRula 31/01/20245
And sent

Qikz 31/01/20246
Hi [REDACTED] our [REDACTED] would like to [REDACTED] with [REDACTED] on [REDACTED] to perhaps [REDACTED] together. Please reply via [REDACTED] [REDACTED] on [REDACTED] to [REDACTED]

Roonmastor 31/01/20246
Worth telling him we will help them if we get their blower vote today?

DarkRula 31/01/20247
But ain't that an act of betrayal? 'Cus what help can we really give them?

Roonmastor 31/01/20247
A return blower vote later?

Qikz 31/01/20243
ask not who can blow you, ask who you can blow for your team

DarkRula 31/01/20244
I guess a return vote makes sense. And maybe if we show support to them, they won't turn the ultimate power on us if they get it
Okay, let's see if they accept such an offer. Sending now.

Roonmastor 31/01/2024 01
Moves-wise, I'm leaning away from firing our missile yet. I think it would be better to hold them for mutually assured destruction at a later turn if someone decides to target us.

DarkRula 31/01/2024 07
Keep the missiles, yes. If we can stockpile them enough to get a few shots off at both teams, that would be a good situation to be in. Especially if the other two teams can't wait to start chucking them around.

Roonmastor 31/01/2024 09
If the other teams start chucking them around, we'll have to think about wasting moves protecting ourselves. Tricky.

DarkRula 31/01/20240
Okay, so Mommy's responded to me about that deal, saying that they want it the other way around. We vote for one of them today, they'll do the same for us tomorrow. What do we think?

Roonmastor 31/01/20243
No, they already have the Blower from turn 1, so it is too valuable to them this way round. At least in turn 3, the Blower is still in A7.

Can they reach A5 by turn 3?

Qikz 31/01/20243
I think that's a stupid idea given they're already the closest to the ultimate weapon and Dan thinks they might be working together with Charlie. I'm happy to leave the decision to Parksey though

Roonmastor 31/01/20243
In case we get betrayed

Qikz 31/01/20244
Roon you can move 2 turns I believe since you get two actions per turn

Roonmastor 31/01/20246
So yes, if we vote them, they will be on A5 tonight, with the Blower A6, so night 3 they are all in on A7.

Though by that logic we are already goosed so if we agree the order doesn't matter

Qikz 31/01/20247
Unless I'm blind I don't think Parksey told us if Charlie had said if Alpha had moved yet so it's possible they're either on A2 or A3 currently - so if they move 2 spaces again they'd be on A5 by the end of tonight I assume?
ah sorry you said the same thing lul

Roonmastor 31/01/20248
Maybe we do agree to help them and then that forces Charlie to shoot at them on Turn 3?

Qikz 31/01/20249
If they're working together with Charlie though couldn't Charlie just let them get the weapon and then shoot at us?

Roonmastor 31/01/20240
Also, for their "all-in move to the centre", they can't be verifying so it leaves them wide open to spy interference from Charlie.

Qikz 31/01/20241
We don't even know if that's what they're doing is the problem - they might have not even moved yesterday. Only way we can find out is if Parksey gets told by Charlie
Maybe Mommy is trying to get them blower again because they didn't use their actions last night to move?

DanCRobbo 31/01/20247
I've sent you all a PM


DarkRula
Keep the missiles, yes. If we can stockpile them enough to get a few shots off at both teams, that would be a good situation to be in. Especially if the other two teams can't wait to start chucking them around.
DanCRobbo 31/01/20247
We can only ever fire twice in one turn
I want to try and sow some disharmony
But I don't want to post that megapost in the thread without consensus from you lot
Give it a look

Qikz 31/01/20249
Just read your post, all of it makes sense but maybe I'm bad at English, but does perhaps fit here? We know for certain that Charlie has a spy in Alpha no?
The one problem I guess
is because you're pushing for Roc to recieve the vote today it might mean they cross him off the "could be spy" list as there's no way you'd out your own spy in the thread by pushing for them to be voted (or at least you would assume so)
Maybe they could see it as a double bluff
:thumbs:
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DanCRobbo 31/01/20242
Only roc because he went yesterday
I think perhaps fits
I'm not saying they don't have a spy
I'm saying the spy might not push to dampen the plan
For fear of outing themselves

Qikz 31/01/20243
I'd only be worried about the risk to Parksey - but I guess eventually people have to vote for someone

Roonmastor 31/01/20244
Well Charlie could nominate a Blower we vote for? But it seems stronger to name someone.

Qikz 31/01/20244
If you tell them to nominate someone, they could nominate Parksey I guess. If they nominate Parksey and we vote for him then could that fall back on him?

MrParksey 31/01/20245
Seems like the Alpha spy in here has leaked everything.

DarkRula 31/01/20245
Oh?

Roonmastor 31/01/20246
:evil:
But I guess to be expected?

Qikz 31/01/20246
Isn't that why we're specifically not saying any plans out loud though? (Given you're picking a leader each day and telling them what to submit)

MrParksey 31/01/20247
Yes, one of us will relay anything I say here back to Alpha.

Weirdly, because if they got the same PM I did, it's in their interest to keep me alive.

(We get bonuses for keeping the spy alive in the team we infiltrate).
Basically Mommy being unhinged and spreading info and chaos. He's not the spy but I think he's the source of a lot of info passing across all three teams.

Qikz 31/01/20248
Has your name been leaked?

MrParksey 31/01/20249
Ive been messaged privately by the Charlie spy in Alpha saying "you've been rumbled".

Won't mention that spy's name in here, as Alpha will want it.

DarkRula 31/01/20241
So was Mommy calling for a cull of all the spies as a hint that he knows more than he's letting on?

Roonmastor 31/01/20241
Could be a bluff he's sent to his whole team?

Qikz 31/01/20241
Could they be bluffing though? If you've been rumbled wouldn't the guy in Charlie just get you executed?
Roon do you and I share the same braincell or something? lmao
we keep posting the same messages
:lol:
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MrParksey 31/01/20242
I've not outed myself in my reply to the Charlie spy.

Qikz 31/01/20243
Still if they've messaged you saying you've been rumbled I assume that would mean that they know you're the spy? If not, what have you been rumbled of, being in Charlie?
Infact thinking about it logically alpha would already know you're the spy - it's charlie who doesn't know that at this stage in the game

DanCRobbo 31/01/20247
I don't know if it changes anything but...
Yesterday I sent a group message to Cora, Jenuall and Tomous via WhatsApp, asking for them to back my candidacy for blower, on the basis we'd vote for one of them to be blower on Turn 2. I signed off with "together let's destroy the Charlies" or similar.
I then sent the same offer to Moggy via PM after we interacted in the thread.
My intention was to then see if any of you mentioned me proposing this alliance without running it by you all first (though I let Parksey know) as that would have revealed you as the traitor in our midst.
Anyway, Drummy posted in the thread earlier that he heard I'd been conspiring to destroy Charlies (true).
I asked him via PM who told him this and he told me Mommy.
Drum may be lying / throwing a random name out there.


MrParksey
Ive been messaged privately by the Charlie spy in Alpha saying "you've been rumbled". Won't mention that spy's name in here, as Alpha will want it.
DanCRobbo 31/01/20249
So the player in Alpha who is loyal to Charlie has told you they know you're our spy.
I don't believe it
They'd just vote to kill you if they were sure.
:thumbs:
2
You are in Charlie publicly - you know who their spy in Alpha is
Why would that player risk outing themselves at this point?

MrParksey 31/01/20241
I think the Charlie spy is trying to:
a) make an alliance with one side to destroy the others
b) trying to play both sides and ultimately come out on top

Yes, Alpha spy, you should be reading this. They've leaked info to Charlie and made them the strongest team currently, where they view themselves as in a position to offer an alliance to the other (as the senior partner in that alliance).

DanCRobbo 31/01/20241
If whomever is our traitor/secret Alpha, has just told all Alphas that you're the spy in Charlie secretly loyal to Bravo, then that means that info will get back to Charlie? They'd kill you and gain a huge advantage - so it's a big own goal for the Aloha spy in our ranks as it benefits Charlie

Qikz 31/01/20242
Aloha spy lul

DanCRobbo 31/01/20243
Parksey, play dumb. Go offline for a while to justify your lack of reply. See if anything else comes out.
Maybe an in-thread distraction would be timely?

MrParksey 31/01/20243
Yeah the Alpha spy hasn't thought it through. They've just spilled my name in the thread, which just helps Charlie really.

It doesn't benefit Bravo people to know who is the Charlie spy (at this moment), but it has given the Charlie team knowledge of all three spies.

Probably all comes down to Mommy being an unhinged psychopath with the subtly of throwing a sack of potatoes into a bath.

Qikz 31/01/20244
In the thread? Wouldn't that mean the alpha spy has given themselves up in the thread as well?


DanCRobbo
Parksey, play dumb. Go offline for a while to justify your lack of reply. See if anything else comes out.
MrParksey 31/01/20244
I replied but non committal. I think the Charlie spy made a mistake and got the team names wrong, so I queried that, as it was confusing.

He was asking me to team up and destroy the Charlies, which is obviously a mistake.

Qikz 31/01/20247
Could this post be related? It seems a bit of a weird thing to say given the rules of the game we're aware of.
or is that related to this?

MrParksey 31/01/20248
They don't have a spy within our team. Drum is Charlie. There's someone from Alpha here.

DanCRobbo 31/01/20248
I think it's just Drum posturing.

Qikz 31/01/20248
Ah


DanCRobbo
If whomever is our traitor/secret Alpha, has just told all Alphas that you're the spy in Charlie secretly loyal to Bravo, then that means that info will get back to Charlie? They'd kill you and gain a huge advantage - so it's a big own goal for the Aloha spy in our ranks as it benefits Charlie
Qikz 31/01/2024 01
I know I laughed at your typo but this is how I view it as well. I think they're maybe just sending messages out in team to try and spook you (or at least the bravo spy since they don't know who it is). If they knew for certain you were the bravo spy in Charlie they'd have 0 reason to keep you alive. They don't gain anything from you being alive so they'd just vote to execute you
They already know what Alpha is doing and until Alpha's spy is still dead here Charlie will get all the info they need without having you spying on them no? (edited)

DanCRobbo 31/01/2024 08
So am I posting in the thread or...?

Qikz 31/01/2024 09
I don't think your post is a bad idea, but I'd rather Parksey make the decision

DanCRobbo 31/01/20243
Roon and Qikz you are now splitting the vote :lol:
I might hold off
Might send a reworded version later

Qikz 31/01/20247
Do you mean Darkrula?

DanCRobbo 31/01/20247
So people don't vote Alpha in turn 3
Yeah I did mean Rula - sorry

Qikz 31/01/20248
I was so confused, I was thinking what vote lul


Qikz
I don't think your post is a bad idea, but I'd rather Parksey make the decision
MrParksey 31/01/20247
It's quite a long post to get my head around whilst at work.

Dan, can you just give me a couple of bullet points of what it's going to say/what your intention is with it?

DanCRobbo 31/01/20241
Sure
It's basically a conspiracy theory
Cora has duped Drummy into an alliance where they rotate the, erm, Blowership
BUT
Evil Cora is planning on seizing the ultimate power on Turn 3!
Drummy doesn't realise!
Seems pointless to post it now - likelihood is Rula will be the blower
BUT I could post it on Turn 3 as a way to get people to NOT vote Alphas as blower that turn

Qikz 31/01/20245
I really wish he didn't call it the blower, every time I read the word it makes me laugh

MrParksey 31/01/20246
Did Rula openly go for the blower or was he nominated? I'd missed one of us going for it

Qikz 31/01/20249
Moggy nominated him

DanCRobbo 31/01/2024 11
The Wind has changed
I think I should post
Alphas might get Blowrr again

DarkRula 31/01/2024 30
Well, half an hour left until Ob Bob lowers it to three votes to lock in the blower, and no-one seems to be voting. Who can we convince to give me one more vote?

DanCRobbo 31/01/2024 54
If its Roons birthday we're better off trying to get people to switch from you to him I think. It's still a Bravo vote

Roonmastor 31/01/2024 46
Has it swung my way now then?

Qikz 31/01/2024 47
I can't tell because nobody is bothering to type out their own votes

Aaron said he'll vote for you but only because Rula said he'll vote for you and Rula can't vote for you lul

DarkRula 31/01/2024 57
Aaron's just posted a vote tally. Tied between me and Roon at present with two each

DanCRobbo 31/01/2024 03
Roon you did it

Roonmastor 31/01/2024 03
Well looks like one of us will get it either way which is good for us

Qikz 31/01/2024 03
@DanCRobbo did you make your post then delete it? Just saw this post from Aaron

DarkRula 31/01/2024 17
The protection has gone to Roon, then
And yeah, I saw that Aaron post, but never saw anything myself. So unless it was a quick post then retract, there's no record of it by my count.

Roonmastor 31/01/2024 26
So excellent news that the power up is back on X. Slight crisis averted. Now we need a plan for the evening move before 8pm. What do we want to do? I think we should at least move to get another power up, and probably go for a verify. I'm now also a bit wary that B4 is a global power up so we will want to think about landing or jumping over that square shortly. Is it worth protecting Parksey with our Protection? The only other reason Moggy would out him and not kill him would be to get the Alpha team to shoot at him, but I guess if they all knew Parksey was the spy they wouldn't go for that unless they had Moggy do their PM. Anyone with any ideas?
Final call should still sit with him, but we should give him ideas.

Qikz 31/01/2024 59
@MrParksey did you decide on who is leader today/have you sorted everything? The deadline is in an hour

44Redshaw 31/01/2024 19
Team Bravo, you have 40 minutes to confirm your actions

Qikz 31/01/2024 30
Has anyone heard anything from Parksey? We're about 30 minutes away from missing the deadline

MrParksey 31/01/2024 31
Don't worry, we'll get it done

Qikz 31/01/2024 31
Ah cool he's alive grtoot

Roonmastor 31/01/2024 36
If he doesn't confirm in the next half hour, I'll send a PM if the rest of you are okay with that. I'll do a double verify in that situation.


Roonmastor
If he doesn't confirm in the next half hour, I'll send a PM if the rest of you are okay with that. I'll do a double verify in that situation.
Roonmastor 31/01/2024 39
This post was sent 30 mins ago. Apologies it makes no sense out of sequence! Mrs decided now was the time to download the whole of Netflix and looks like it killed my connection. :lol:

Roonmastor 31/01/20240:09
Do we think that was a Charlie power up or some fired missiles?

DanCRobbo 31/01/20240:19
It could be either
It could also just be a game mechanism and the Charlies are still on C1

Qikz 31/01/20240:26
It'd be weird if they haven't moved at all, but it'd also be weird to assume they'd fire missiles at both other starting positions as surely teams would want to move

Qikz 31/01/20240:57
Thinking about it - did Oblomov ever mention that it did damage to the tile if you fired missiles?

If it was the power up at C4 then they've somehow moved 4 spaces and also used the power up on the same day - so I'm assuming it's not a power up. We've moved twice and the powerups we got were

Extra Missile and Free Forcefield looking at the PM we got from Ob today and the one yesterday

Preezy 01/02/20247
Morning fellas, save me a scroll - can someone give me the tl;dr on yesterday?

Roonmastor 01/02/20242
It was me as blower, we moved the big bonus to square X. Charlie did something that removed the squares B1 and A1.

Qikz 01/02/20242
It was either Charlie or a game mechanic - I'm not sure if we've figured that out
and Parksey I think is only speaking to verified people which makes sense so we're somewhat in the dark here

Roonmastor 01/02/20243
Yeah, but I reckon the mechanic triggers on reaching square 4.

Qikz 01/02/20244
It's possible I guess. If we think either Alpha or Charlie are on A4/C4 (since we're on B3) who do we think we should vote for blower today?
I'm assuming it would be Charlie given it didn't affect C1 but I guess we don't really know for sure

DanCRobbo 01/02/20241
@MrParksey do you know the location of the Charlies?

MrParksey 01/02/20241
Yes.

DanCRobbo 01/02/20243
The Alphas?

Qikz 01/02/20242
Sorry to jump in since Dan's waiting for Parksey, but should we be voting for anyone today or just trying to get people to vote for us again? I saw you've voted for Charlie Dan, but do we actively want to be voting?

Roonmastor 01/02/20242
Did the Charlie's vote for me yesterday, or the Alpha's?

DanCRobbo 01/02/20244
Mommy was the deciding vote
He went for you Roon so as to avoid the Bravos getting in
lul
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Roonmastor 01/02/20243
I'll hold my vote a moment until we have a plan on what we want to do with our turn (or at least Parksey says we have one). Don't want to rush.

Anyone got a view on whether we go aggro, defensive, move towards the mega-power up or just do some verifying? I'm leaning more to aggro at this stage.

And any view on if we should use Parksey to get active in the Charlie camp?

DanCRobbo 01/02/2024 06
I have so many views but knowing it'll all get fed back to Alpha is making me wary

Qikz 01/02/2024 08
I think the best thing we can do is only share things with people we know are verified (which will happen I guess as we get verified) and not share anything that could be beneficial to any team (since anything fed back to Alpha will likely get fed back to Charlie)
I think general who should we vote for or basic things that don't involve anything specific should be fine if it only really affects us
If you've got any views you should probably share them direct with Parksey
Roonmastor started a call that lasted 0 minutes 01/02/2024 09

Roonmastor 01/02/2024 09
Sorry, pressed the wrong button

Qikz 01/02/2024 09
God that made me jump lul

Roonmastor 01/02/2024 09
Was trying to read a notification :lol:

DanCRobbo 01/02/20240
Just in a meeting but I'll ring you back Roon

Qikz 01/02/2024 05
I gave the deciding vote to Charlie - I'd rather they get in for now given Parksey can see what they're up to and voted along with you you two (edited)

Qikz 01/02/2024 54
@MrParksey Charlie executed Aayl looking for you (although I guess you knew this already)
Only thing I can imagine is they haven't actually moved from C1 and they spent 2 nights verifying as many people as they could and maybe had a 1/3 chance and they gambled and failed

DanCRobbo 01/02/2024 28
That's a surprise

Qikz 01/02/2024 28
They just executed someone else

DanCRobbo 01/02/2024 29
What?!

Qikz 01/02/2024 29
omg Parksey I don't know how you did it but you've just stayed alive after they merked half their team lmao

DanCRobbo 01/02/2024 29
strawberry float
It's Drummy
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Parksey you're playing a blinder

Qikz 01/02/2024 31
I guess there's a chance they execute again - maybe they verified a few times and are just tanking everyone they have other than the verified members to remove the spy

DanCRobbo 01/02/2024 31
Yeah true
Very risky approach though

Qikz 01/02/2024 31
Weird thing is it doesn't make any sense, if they've figured out who the spy or think they have just do what Parksey is doing and only talk amongst the verified people
they've put themselves at a massive defecit
It's also given Parksey more power, because if we can somehow shoot and kill one of the remaining Charlie members tonight Parksey can execute the other member and knock them out no?

DanCRobbo 01/02/2024 39
No
Roc is protected

Qikz 01/02/2024 40
Ah that's a point he blew the horn

44Redshaw 01/02/2024 59
RIP In Peace sweet angel Parksey

Qikz 01/02/2024 59
omg they executed their entire team to kill him

44Redshaw 01/02/2024 59
Please could you leave this chat group and cease all contact with remaining players

Qikz 01/02/2024 03
So charlie are down to 3 players now - the spy in alpha and 2 others
Is someone willing to take over arranging things now Parksey is dead? he was kinda arranging who was leader before
We need a leader for today and none of us know who's already been leader
I know that Parksey planned on verifying people - can one of you take over or we might not be able to submit an action tonight
@DarkRula @Preezy @Roonmastor @DanCRobbo have you been kept in the loop? I don't mind taking the lead but I've not been involved in anything and as far as I'm aware I haven't been verified so I'd rather someone else do it who has been (nobody contacted me about being verified yet) (edited)

MrParksey 01/02/2024 07
:unknownsmilie:

Qikz 01/02/2024 07
I'd love to know what happened after the game Parksey lol it must've been a mess over there

MrParksey 01/02/2024 08
I don't actually know how to leave Discord chats so my graceful exit has been ruined.

Someone feel free to kick me out.
:lol:
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Qikz 01/02/2024 08
click on the X
MrParksey left the group. 01/02/2024 08

44Redshaw 01/02/2024 08
He's too handsome to leave

Qikz 01/02/2024 08
He didn't see your compliment T_T
:'(
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Has anyone submitted our actions for today yet Obbob?

44Redshaw 01/02/2024 08
No
You're the only team left

Qikz 01/02/2024 09
@DarkRula @Preezy @Roonmastor @DanCRobbo guys we need to decide on what to do - if it gets too late we'll miss the deadline (edited)

Qikz 01/02/2024 37
I don't know what we've done so far, but given I've not been leader yet just so we don't miss the deadline I'll give it 5 more minutes and then submit - Obbob said before we're the only team that hasn't submitted yet. I'm not sure what to do really because I haven't thought it through and nobody is around, but I think we should maybe do a move, a verify and maybe equip our free forcefield since it doesn't take a turn.

We're not sure where either team are either so we can't really fire

DanCRobbo 01/02/2024 38
Qikz I am OK with you acting as you've said.

Qikz 01/02/2024 50
@44Redshaw I've sent in our actions as above given I only had a response from Dan (edited)

44Redshaw 01/02/2024 51
Received

DarkRula 01/02/20240:07
All I know is that one person has been verified. Best course of action I can see is for me to contact them and then see if they have also been a leader.
And then, if so, who they have verified.

Qikz 01/02/20240:09
Would've been nice if you were around an hour ago so I didn't have to rush submit something

DarkRula 01/02/20240:17
To be fair, repeating our actions of the previous two days was a safe bet whether everyone had been around or not

Qikz 01/02/20240:20
Well now we're 3/5 and given Parksey was super tight lipped to anyone who wasn't verified it means we don't know who's been leader already so tomorrow I think the verified players haven't been leader they should definitely be next
I'm hoping Parksey left some kind of plan with a verified player for if he died, but given Charlie suddenly killed half their own team he might not have thought he needed one

DarkRula 01/02/20240:26
Hopefully that is the case. Not heard from them yet

Qikz 01/02/20240:28
I've contacted the name of the person who I just verified directly as well
@44Redshaw do we get to find out what the powerup does?


Qikz
@44Redshaw do we get to find out what the powerup does?
44Redshaw 01/02/20240:33
I'd suggesting looking in the thread...

Qikz 01/02/20240:33
oh thanks lol that explains it

DanCRobbo 01/02/2024 08
@44Redshaw what happens now with our leader? We know Qikz did it for T3 but Parksey was Co ordinating the moves in secret for T1 and T2 - can you tell us who was leader for those turns?

44Redshaw 01/02/20240
All I can tell you is that for Turn Four I can accept confirmed actions from an eligible Leader from Team Bravo

DanCRobbo 01/02/20248
Right so if we don't get it right we lose a turn and the spy on our team won't mind that
gooseberry fool
I know I've not been leader before so I'll go next
:thumbs:
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Qikz 01/02/20247
As Charlie have been blower today I imagine Mommy might be going to try and get the blower again for Alpha tomorrow. He was outwardly annoyed with us in the thread for us not voting them back, but I wonder if we can get Charlie (now they've killed Parksey) to vote one of us in - or even better if we can get Alpha to vote for us as well. I'm going to throw my name out there and see if it sticks.

Roonmastor 01/02/20244
I've literally just landed (6hr flight) and now I find out Parksey is dead? I've got a few hours drive ahead of me so I'll catch up ready for tomorrow morning but that is a bit gooseberry fool.

Qikz 01/02/20245
Damn, what is it with everyone globetrotting all over the place in games recently lul

In the last game Parksey was constantly on flights as well

DanCRobbo 01/02/20245
Don't catch up while driving Roon!

Roonmastor 01/02/20246
Had you accepted my call, I'd have shown you a nice view of the beach from my sunbed.

DanCRobbo 02/02/20244
Honesty time, lads.
Who has previously been leader and when?
We need to work together to ensure we don't waste any turns. Parksey left us nothing.

Qikz 02/02/2024 00
I was leader last night

DanCRobbo 02/02/2024 00
I've not yet been leader
We need to account for Turns 1 and 2

DarkRula 02/02/20247
Still not been contacted by the person I'd verified.

DanCRobbo 02/02/20245
What do you mean, DR?

DarkRula 02/02/20243
I was day one leader. If Parksey was using the person verified to be the next leader (at least until it brought back someone who already had), then it stands to reason that person was second leader, so if I can confirm it, we have our three leaders and won't waste a turn.

DanCRobbo 02/02/20245
OK

Qikz 02/02/20246
If that's the case at least we won't waste a day

DanCRobbo 02/02/20246
@Preezy
@Roonmastor
Do either of you want to come forward? Were you leader on day two?

Roonmastor 02/02/2024 08
Right, read everything. Not as much to catch up on as I thought.

At this point I think being hidden is worse than being open.

I was verified Day 1 and was the Day 2 leader. Up to two players can confirm this (but don't feel compelled to) as one verified me as Day 1 leader, and one was in a chat with Parksey and I after I verified them.

Qikz, feel free to tell me who you verified (privately if you wish) so we can narrow down on our spy.

Preezy 02/02/20243
Morning guys, RIP Parksey you absolute hero - dying in battle is the best way to go!

Roonmastor 02/02/20245
We got good value out of his deeds. Knocked out two Charlies in their mini AYAB? game.
:lol:
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Preezy 02/02/20245
Apologies for the lack of engagement from me over the last few days, but I'm BACK and ready to lead us to glory

Qikz 02/02/20244
Works a little full on today so I can't get as involved at least early in the day (not that there's much to do) but I've told the person I verified they're verified and if they trust you I'll let them come to you because I don't know who has or who hasn't been verified other than who I just did.

All I know is I likely haven't been verified yet because Parksey never spoke to me outside of night one when he wasn't sure if the leader was going to be around to send the instructions off (but he never told me who that was so I can't confirm that either)

I think personally Charlie made a big mistake executing half their team to kill Parksey. Even with Parksey alive he was so tight lipped to everyone who wasn't verified nothing could've leaked to Alpha anyway

Qikz 02/02/2024 06
ok I'm on my lunchbreak now - should we be voting Alpha in as the blower or is it better for us to let them vote for us today?

DarkRula 02/02/2024 46
I suppose we could get one of the Alphas in today. But it depends on who we think the Charlie spy on their team is.

Preezy 02/02/2024 19
RIP Rula :(

Qikz 02/02/2024 23
RIP Rula - I guess the fact I wasn't even told about the vote is a bad sign for me. I'm not the spy but if killing me gets you closer to getting them then I guess I have to accept my fate

DarkRula 02/02/2024 24
Guess everyone verified got together, then. Hope you can will it. Bonjour.
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Roonmastor 02/02/2024 48
Well played Qikz, you had us fooled

Qikz 02/02/2024 49
I should've got alpha to make me blower today. Damn

Preezy 02/02/2024 49
well played qikz, now burn in pretend hell

Roonmastor 02/02/2024 49
I trusted you more here than in AYA? :lol:

Qikz 02/02/2024 49
I'll be watching alpha win from the sidelines TPLove
ciao bitches!
Qikz left the group. 02/02/2024 50

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PostRe: One Man's Spy... The End
by Roonmastor » Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:55 pm

Part 2: The Missile Era

Roonmastor 02/02/2024 52
Right so now we just have to have the night actions go our way

Preezy 02/02/2024 52
3 actions to use tomorrow as well which is good

Roonmastor 02/02/2024 52
No response from Pedz. Suspect it has not been seen or has been ignored

DanCRobbo 02/02/2024 53
That's fine
Our position is a bit different now

Roonmastor 02/02/2024 54
Ah shoot! That means Charlie had three moves this turn. They are probably on C7

DanCRobbo 02/02/2024 54
How?!


DanCRobbo
Our position is a bit different now
DanCRobbo 02/02/2024 54
Oh yeah
Just seen the PM

Roonmastor 02/02/2024 54
You get an extra action.
@44Redshaw do we get to add this to this turn and take a third action?

DanCRobbo 02/02/2024 55
Ha, just PM'd that

Roonmastor 02/02/2024 55
Move again?
Does it help as we will be in three range anyway from tonight, right?

DanCRobbo 02/02/2024 58
I'd be minded not to, Alphas don't now yet, and they're the majority
Less likely to be spooked by us possibly going for the Ultimate Power
I say fire a second missile at Jen?
Arguably another gamble
But they've gone well for us so far

Roonmastor 02/02/2024 59
Or one at Tomous? Or one at Pedz? Argh!

DanCRobbo 02/02/2024 59
:unknownsmilie:

Roonmastor 02/02/2024 01
Let's go two at Jenuall. Shows allegiance to Charlie somewhat

DanCRobbo 02/02/2024 28
Qikz lied about verifying me
He wasted our free use forcefield too

44Redshaw 02/02/2024 20
Team Bravo, you have 40 minutes to add a third action

DanCRobbo 02/02/2024 22
@Preezy are you about?

DanCRobbo 02/02/20240:34
Right, I have no clue where we go from here, but Charlie were definitely making a dash for the Ultimate Powerup, which (I believe) must now be on tile X.

Roonmastor 02/02/20240
So we need to make an alliance with Alpha and move the powerup either to us or them. Then they will likely reach the power up anyway but we will be able to hammer that position with power ups from both sides.
And now I'm captain hindsight, we shouldn't have fired at A4 as that has the world shield on it lol
@44Redshaw What happens if multiple teams reach the ultimate power up on the same turn?


Roonmastor
@44Redshaw What happens if multiple teams reach the ultimate power up on the same turn?
44Redshaw 02/02/20244
We might have to find out together

Roonmastor 02/02/20245
And do missiles resolve before power ups are received?

44Redshaw 02/02/20247
Yes

Roonmastor 02/02/20247
Right, so we either banzai to the power up ourselves if we can make it (but means we need to get the vote and we're more likely to see Alpha win than us); or we bombard the power up square with Alpha's help and see how the chips fall next turn. We can do three turns and have a free shot.

DanCRobbo 02/02/20240
@44Redshaw can we move onto A and C tiles?

44Redshaw 02/02/20248
No, the furthermost tile you can travel to is X

DanCRobbo 02/02/20248
OK
Can we move back along the grid to tiles we've previously been on?

44Redshaw 02/02/20249
Yes, as long as they're still there

DanCRobbo 02/02/2024 02
This is the first turn Charlie had three actions available, right?
That's a question for my team mates not you OB as I know you probably can't tell me that

DanCRobbo 02/02/20242
There is clearly some kind of hidden game mechanic that removes tiles that have previously been stepped on if not retrodden within two(?) turns
I think the plan this turn has to be:

I try to get in as Blower

We move two spaces to claim the ultimate power-up

Forcefield on one of the two of you, hope the other one doesn't get targeted

Next turn, move back as far as we can, to give us maneuvering space in the inevitable missile endgame

Roonmastor 02/02/20244
The squares disappear every couple of turns (I think) up to two behind where you are right now.


DanCRobbo
This is the first turn Charlie had three actions available, right?
Roonmastor 02/02/20245
I believe so, yes

DanCRobbo 02/02/20247
They may already be on tile X then
@44Redshaw would obtaining the Ultimate Powerup prompt a global announcement?

Roonmastor 02/02/20248
They are at best C7 I think
They were C4 the same time as us, we are now on B5 and they are on C7 given the "team location - 2 falls into the water mechanic"
Alpha team are probably shielding up ready for a missile war. Charlie are bolting for the ultimate power up. And we are sort of caught between the two strategies and sort of haven't done either :lol:
:lol:
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DanCRobbo
@44Redshaw would obtaining the Ultimate Powerup prompt a global announcement?
44Redshaw 03/02/2024 01
Another one for us to find out together

Roonmastor 03/02/20241
Today will be slow paced I think. But if you get Blower Dan then we will know for certain the location of the power-up and can plan accordingly.

DanCRobbo 03/02/20242
And if it moves to B7 we'll definitely get it


44Redshaw
No, the furthermost tile you can travel to is X
DanCRobbo 03/02/20242
Because of this
Hyuk hyuk

Roonmastor 03/02/20246
Which means we would move two and shield one. But we will get hammered by missiles to get to the power up. But you would be untouched and have the ability to fire four missiles the following day. You probably won't get the Blower the following day (although the big power up probably removes that ability) but just a slight chance one of the others gets it.
I have one other idea, but I'll see how it all plays out

DanCRobbo 03/02/2024 18
@44Redshaw I'm Blower today. By our calculations the ultimate powerup will move from Tile X to tile B7 as a result. In order to claim the ultimate powerup do we need to end a turn on the same tile, or just pass it? I.e. could we move onto B7, claim it, then move again in the same turn?

44Redshaw 03/02/2024 31
You can only obtain a powerup from a tile by ending your turn on it

DanCRobbo 03/02/2024 41
Cheers
That makes our plan clear IMO

DanCRobbo 03/02/2024 18
The tile is on B7, OB has confirmed via PM. Am I OK to submit our team actions? Move twice (to get to B7) and forcefield one of the two of you?

Roonmastor 03/02/2024 26
Yes

DanCRobbo 03/02/20240:39
Hahaha
We got a nuke

DanCRobbo 03/02/20246
Here's my read of the situation based on the info OB has provided.

Charlies are obviously in the worst position. I think they're on Tile X and they only have one other spot to move to. Plus there's only the two of them left.

Alphas are in a strong position. There's four of them, and I believe they're on Tile A3 meaning they've still got lots of options for movement (i.e. potentially avoiding missile attacks). On the flipside, they'll likely not have many extra power-ups beyond standard missiles and forcefields.

We're not in a great position on the face of things - we can move forwards or backwards one tile, but ending a turn on Tile X would presumably remove Tile B6 as a future option. We do however have a good amount of firepower at our disposal.

No Blower means no additional protection from here on.

DanCRobbo 04/02/2024 00
While an alliance with Alpha to take out Charlie is tempting, we need to get Alpha moving. Some warning Missiles to A3 might get them to rethink their strategy. Do we try to play both sides?

Roonmastor 04/02/20246
Don't just assume Alpha is on A3. If I were playing as them, I might hide on A2 if I wasn't bothered about moving forward. They can activate A4 at any time and neutralise a round of missile firing and locate us.

@44Redshaw Do you only get a power up from a particular space once or can you keep getting it each round?
I think we have to ally with Charlie, and probably hold onto our nuke until A4 has gone.
Unless we think the nuke will break through the dome?


Roonmastor
Don't just assume Alpha is on A3. If I were playing as them, I might hide on A2 if I wasn't bothered about moving forward. They can activate A4 at any time and neutralise a round of missile firing and locate us. @44Redshaw Do you only get a power up from a particular space once or can you keep getting it each round?
44Redshaw 04/02/20245
Only one powerup per tile

Roonmastor 04/02/20249
The most missiles Alpha could have is 6 right now. It seems they mirrored our first two days moves and got A2 and A3 power ups and then lost A1 on turn 2 like we did.
Someone fired on turn 3 and turn 5 who wasn't us.
As Charlie bolted for X, I assume Alpha fired on turn 5. As Alpha have also not been moving it is likely they also fired on turn 3.
So we both have 4 shots, and we also have the nuke.
I'm curious what happens if we move to X where the Charlie's are. Knowing OB, it would be an orgy and...our teams merge?
There is a lot of sticky substance and we are all protected?
:lol:
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Roonmastor
I think we have to ally with Charlie, and probably hold onto our nuke until A4 has gone. Unless we think the nuke will break through the dome?
DanCRobbo 04/02/20242
What dome? I think I missed this m

Roonmastor 04/02/20243
Alpha still have A4 available to use as a power up, which is a defence dome that stops missiles from hitting all players.

DanCRobbo 04/02/2024 03
Oh is it?!
I thought it was just a device to reveal everyone's location! I definitely didn't see that

DanCRobbo 04/02/20248
@44Redshaw The thread is dormant. Obviously killing all the spies and removing the blower was always going to slow things down, but I wonder if it's also because it's the weekend, and things might pick up tomorrow? Are the other Team chats similarly quiet?
Is the deadline still 8pm or do you think you'll delay until Monday to see if you get any more engagement?

44Redshaw 04/02/20249
Yeah nothing else to do in the thread now and teams no longer need to do anything other than decide on their actions, so it's all gone very basic
Reckon we can push on with the deadline, but I'll let you know if anything changes

DanCRobbo 04/02/2024 02
OK, cheers.
@Preezy Do you think you'll be around much today?
@Roonmastor What do you think our best way forward is?

Roonmastor 04/02/2024 21
I think we try and make contact with the Charlie team and go from there. I would probably fire a single missile at Alpha just to keep them on their toes, and just forcefield up to the eyeballs. The only thing left for us to grab is the B6 power up, so I'm edging towards grabbing that.

DanCRobbo 04/02/2024 22
I think, if at all possible, we save the nuke for the alphas, and only use it when we're as certain as we can be that the tile we aim it at will be occupied

Roonmastor 04/02/2024 24
Yeah, I think shooting A2 or A3 gives us the best intel on that. The lava will tell us if they are on A4 or beyond (and A4 is announced/protected).
I would lean shooting A2, move B6 and forcefield Dan.

DanCRobbo 04/02/2024 28
Do we want to use a forcefield this turn though? We don't get them that often and will want them for the endgame. We figured it might be predictable yesterday that we'd be on B7 but it's less so today that we'll end the turn on B6, arguably?

Roonmastor 04/02/2024 32
Gonna send this to all Bravo and Charlie via PM:

Hola,

Wondering if you are interested in a little mutually beneficial alliance?

Alpha have the most players and the most spaces to hide on, as well as the dome of protection on A4 they can use at any time.

We were wondering if you wanted to do a coordinated missile attack on the this round. We only ask for one missile to be fired, on a space of your choosing at Alpha, and we would hit another tile to try to ensure a hit.

Thoughts?
:thumbs:
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DanCRobbo
I think, if at all possible, we save the nuke for the alphas, and only use it when we're as certain as we can be that the tile we aim it at will be occupied
Roonmastor 04/02/2024 33
I think the forcefield remains in force, doesn't it? Moving you to 1HP to 2HP?
It says it is equipped, cannot be stacked but can be replaced. Sounds like it remains in play.
Can you confirm @44Redshaw

44Redshaw 04/02/2024 15
That is correct

DanCRobbo 04/02/2024 26
@Roonmastor did you send our actions?


Roonmastor
I would lean shooting A2, move B6 and forcefield Dan.
DanCRobbo 04/02/2024 50
I'm going to send this to OB

Roonmastor 04/02/20240:11
Go ahead, I didn't do actions


DanCRobbo
Is the deadline still 8pm or do you think you'll delay until Monday to see if you get any more engagement?
44Redshaw 04/02/20249
I should have gone with your suggestion first time :fp:


DanCRobbo
@Preezy Do you think you'll be around much today?
Preezy 05/02/20244
Morning fellas, sorry I had a busy weekend so wasn't around at all

DanCRobbo 05/02/20243
Exactly what a spy would say :)

Roonmastor 05/02/20246
So everyone missed then?

A5 is where the Alpha's are right now.

@44Redshaw we didn't receive a power up from B6. This is our first occasion on this square :)

DanCRobbo 05/02/20248
There's a chance the other teams didn't miss. We don't know yet if you get told when/if you get hit by a missile (remember everyone has 2HP)
I didn't use the forcefield on myself because I guessed nobody would expect us to move to B6.
I thought it would be best to keep it.
But I could be wrong - someone could have hit me - it all depends on whether it triggers a notification.

Roonmastor 05/02/20249
OB confirmed they stay equipped

DanCRobbo 05/02/20249
Stay equipped? What, indefinitely?

Roonmastor 05/02/20240
Until you get hit, yeah


Roonmastor
It says it is equipped, cannot be stacked but can be replaced. Sounds like it remains in play. Can you confirm @44Redshaw
Roonmastor 05/02/20240
This was confirmed

DanCRobbo 05/02/20242
gooseberry fool, my bad. Sorry.
We now have two forcefields - could equip both tonight

Roonmastor 05/02/20243
Might as well, only reason not to is if we also want to move and shoot
If shooting, we want to target A5. Means the Alpha's need to either go to A4 and use that power up, or they need to go A6+ and burn A4 behind them.

We need to decide if we want to remain on B6 or move, we get max 5HP as a team this round (6HP max max), which means we can get wiped out in any single round by both teams or maybe even one team with freefire power ups.
Charlie max at 4HP (assume they are at this level already) and Alpha at 8HP (they won't be at this level yet).


Roonmastor
So everyone missed then? A5 is where the Alpha's are right now. @44Redshaw we didn't receive a power up from B6. This is our first occasion on this square :)
44Redshaw 05/02/2024 06
Balls! Sorry! Will send another PM now

DanCRobbo 05/02/20244
Oh that's a good power


44Redshaw
Balls! Sorry! Will send another PM now
DanCRobbo 05/02/20244
This time you've deducted a forcefield :lol:

Roonmastor 05/02/20245
And moved our location
It's a good job we know what we have :lol:
Status update

Location: B6
Missiles: 4
Forcefields: 2
Powerups: Free shot (on any turn after this one you may fire a missile without using an action);
Free shot and free forcefield equip (on any turn after this one you may fire a missile and equip a forcefield without using an action);
Tactical nuclear warhead (when firing this weapon you only need to aim at a tile – you do not need to aim at another player)
Long-range homing missile (when firing this weapon you only need to aim at a player – you do not need to aim at a tile)
Once A4 is out of play, that homing missile will be really useful
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44Redshaw 05/02/20247
Eh :lol: I thought I'd just hit reply all to my last sent message!

44Redshaw 05/02/2024
Actions in by 8 please, chaps

DanCRobbo 05/02/2024
OK. @Roonmastor How do you want to play it from here

Roonmastor 05/02/2024
Equip a forcefield on two people, and then either move or shoot.

DanCRobbo 05/02/2024
Can you submit tonight?

44Redshaw 05/02/2024 1
Deadline approaching

DanCRobbo 05/02/2024
Done

Roonmastor 05/02/2024
Thanks for sorting Dan!

DanCRobbo 05/02/2024
No worries. My daughter fell asleep early so I had chance to get online!
Wow, Alphas have squandered their advantage going power-up hunting

DanCRobbo 05/02/2024
I wonder if, the turn after this next one, both Alpha and Charlie will be on X?

Roonmastor 05/02/20249
Yeah, Alpha have blasted forward. I'm wondering if our best play next turn is to nuke X, and fire our other missiles at A7 (or A6).
Nuking X is always the best play as you might hit Charlie if you miss Alpha. We are now at 33% of hitting Alpha and 50% of hitting Charlie, meaning targeting X gives a 66% chance to hit, or a 17% chance to hit both teams.

Of course, the mind games mean the odds of someone being somewhere is not truly random so those % could be a bit out.
I think I prefer firing a regular missile at A6 as the power up there is very good. A forcefield on me is very important. Then it's just if we move or fire.
Forget me, I already have a forcefield on, and there are none to be had in the supply.
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My view is that now is the time to roll the dice. We have max defence, our enemies will only gain more defence faster than us, and missiles faster than us. I think it is time to fire, and perhaps properly recruit the Charlies
They haven't responded to any of my attempts so far so maybe you will have more joy, Dan?
If we plan to wait a turn to see if the odds improve, that is the same as assuming they will move to X


Roonmastor
They haven't responded to any of my attempts so far so maybe you will have more joy, Dan?
DanCRobbo 06/02/20245
Did you send that PM?


Roonmastor
Gonna send this to all Bravo and Charlie via PM: Hola, Wondering if you are interested in a little mutually beneficial alliance? Alpha have the most players and the most spaces to hide on, as well as the dome of protection on A4 they can use at any time. We were wondering if you wanted to do a coordinated missile attack on the this round. We only ask for one missile to be fired, on a space of your choosing at Alpha, and we would hit another tile to try to ensure a hit. Thoughts?
DanCRobbo 06/02/20246
This one

Roonmastor 06/02/20246
Yeah, didn't I put you both on that PM too?

DanCRobbo 06/02/20246
Nope

Roonmastor 06/02/20247
:shocked:
Yeah, I mustn't have sent it. Can't see it in my PMs

DanCRobbo 06/02/20243
That will explain their lack of reply :lol:

Roonmastor 06/02/20241
Bastards not responding to my unsent messages
It needs a rewrite now, so feel free to do so and send it out

Preezy 06/02/2024
Morning fellas, apologies again for the radio silence
when are we using our nuke?

Roonmastor 06/02/2024
I think we should use it today, but what do you think?

Preezy 06/02/2024
The game seems to be in a lull so why not cause some carnage and thin out the herd

DanCRobbo 06/02/2024
Hold up
Roc has engaged with our message
Might be better to try and thin out some Alphas with the Charlies this turn

Roonmastor 06/02/2024
Yeah, okay. Stick to conventional fire for A6 then maybe?

Preezy 06/02/2024
Preezy used Warmonger Influence - it was not very effective!

Roonmastor 06/02/2024
They can target A7 . Let them name the target player as act of good faith. We could even drop a post into the thread saying there is a good power up on A6 and encourage them to go to that square (meaning they have to trade a power up for a hit)

DanCRobbo 06/02/2024 1
Do you want to reply Roon
Mainly as I'm not sure I follow

Roonmastor 06/02/2024 4
Yeah, done

Roonmastor 06/02/2024 4
Agreed Charlie will fire Cora at A7 and we fire Cora at A6. Now just to decide what to do with the rest of the turn.

44Redshaw 06/02/2024 0
Ready to confirm your actions?

Roonmastor 06/02/2024 2
I guess I'll do it today.
Will move to B7, shoot one missile at Cora on A6 and not spend our other turn.

44Redshaw 06/02/2024 3
Any reason you're not using a third action?

DanCRobbo 06/02/2024 3
Thanks Roon. Sorry, I've been offline until now.

Roonmastor 06/02/2024
Saving missiles as we only have a stock of 4, and our chance to hit Alpha is still pretty poor.

44Redshaw 06/02/2024
Fair enough

DanCRobbo 06/02/20242
Well that went well

Roonmastor 06/02/20244
Ooh, better than expected that

DanCRobbo 06/02/20244
Yeah that puts us in a really good position
Might be worth proposing to the Charlies that we continue in the same vein?

Roonmastor 06/02/20244
I'm assuming Charlie got hit for the forcefield to get destroyed, unless it is one of us and we didn't get notified


DanCRobbo
Might be worth proposing to the Charlies that we continue in the same vein?
Roonmastor 06/02/20246
Yeah, we need to keep them onside before they realise we are now the strongest team.
We do need to fire the nuke this round, expect high fire on us this round from both teams I think.
@44Redshaw would the individual be notified if they lost their forcefield?

DanCRobbo 06/02/20248
Nuke X?

Roonmastor 06/02/20241
Seems like a fair plan. Although will Alpha go to X? It takes them two moves to do so...


Roonmastor
@44Redshaw would the individual be notified if they lost their forcefield?
44Redshaw 07/02/20249
Yes. And now that all spies are dead, the whole team is notified

DanCRobbo 07/02/20240
@44Redshaw would an individual be notified if they were hit by a missile?


DanCRobbo
@44Redshaw would an individual be notified if they were hit by a missile?
44Redshaw 07/02/20245
Not directly, no.
They would be announced as dead in the thread, and removed from their group chat

DanCRobbo 07/02/20247
But if they only got hit once? Because of the HP thing?

44Redshaw 07/02/20249
Either they have a forcefield on and get the team notification, or they don't have a forcefield and therefore they die

DanCRobbo 07/02/20249
Oh I misread the thread

44Redshaw 07/02/20249
Ah

DanCRobbo 07/02/20249
"Everyone starts with 1HP"

44Redshaw 07/02/20249
Correct

DanCRobbo 07/02/20240
I thought it was 2 :lol:
OK so we're actually doing pretty well!

44Redshaw 07/02/20240
:P

DanCRobbo 07/02/20243
@44Redshaw Does our "long-range homing missile" come from our stock of 4 Missiles?

44Redshaw 07/02/20247
No, it's additional
Can cost an action or be a free action as a powerup

DanCRobbo 07/02/20242
OK so we have the four conventional Missiles plus the long range one and the nuke
I'm guessing you're not giving anything else away regarding the effects of the nuke?

44Redshaw 07/02/20243
Not until it's been used ;)

DanCRobbo 07/02/20244
Yeah thought so :lol:
We know the Alphas can't have stayed on A6 as otherwise tile A5 wouldn't have collapsed. But they could be there now, or on A7, or X.
Charlies are on C7 or X
We are on B7
Today we could move to B6 & use the nuke on X? Then depending on the outcome, we're in a decent position to "mop up" next turn

Roonmastor 07/02/20241
They are on A6, we hit them

DanCRobbo 07/02/20241
One other, far more risky, move I had thought of:
Anyone else can probably calculate that we obtained the Ultimate Powerup but they don't know what it is.
We could bluff that it's the power to recruit a spy, as long as we know what tile they're on.
Then, I could PM someone on Team Alpha (Mommy has been game for an alliance before, or I could lean on my wolf-team connection with Tomous from the recent AYAW) and ask if they want to win the game for sure with us - all they need to do is tell us what tile they're on.
That would allow us to target them for recruitment, and target one of their current teammates with a missile - because as per the rules, once a team goes down to two, if one is a spy, the non-spy is killed and the spy joins their true team.

But really, we're just going to drop a nuke :lol:
Sorry, they'd need to tell us what tile they're ending the turn on, for that to work.


Roonmastor
They are on A6, we hit them
DanCRobbo 07/02/20242
Oh yeah.

Roonmastor 07/02/20245
The only other possibility I think is the nuke will irradiate the tile maybe, so going X brings Charlie to one locale, and Alpha to two (and us to two).

Going A7 should bring the Alpha's to one (or two if you can pass through), Charlie's to two and keep us on three.

Odds on X landing a hit are still theoretically higher, but I think the Alpha's will be like us and unwilling to give up their A6 space.

DanCRobbo 07/02/20246
Hmm, interesting points

Roonmastor 07/02/20248
Although the Alpha's did blast through all their other spaces, I think that was to dodge our shots and it worked.

DanCRobbo 07/02/2024
*nearly

Roonmastor 07/02/2024
I reckon we ask Charlie to do the same as yesterday, we take A7 and they can opt for A6, but we fire our nuke. We should probably also fire one conventional missile at X to make us feel less shitty if we miss our nuke shot. Target Jenuall as he posted in thread so he is more active. And we need to pick where we want to stand, which I'm easy on.
You know what, if the nuke is going up, let's fire the whole arsenal.
Charlie's to fire A6
Nuke to A7
Homing on Mommy (?)
Missile to X on Jenuall


Roonmastor
You know what, if the nuke is going up, let's fire the whole arsenal.
DanCRobbo 07/02/2024
Well now hold on :lol:
We don't know exactly what the nuke will do
So we might end up squandering some firepower
For example if you're right about the nuke irradiating a tile - then the turn after we can use regular Missiles on the team that is stuck and the homing missile on the team that isn't. Whereas using the homing Missile now is a waste - as we might use it on a player we're about to nuke anyway!

Roonmastor 07/02/2024
Yeah okay
Got an itchy trigger finger for a second there :fp:
The irradiated tile is an assumption on my part ofc


Roonmastor
Charlie's to fire A6 Nuke to A7 Homing on Mommy (?) Missile to X on Jenuall
DanCRobbo 07/02/2024
I'm OK with this apart from using the homer

Preezy 07/02/20242

Roonmastor 07/02/20246
Cool, I'll PM Charlies


Roonmastor
Cool, I'll PM Charlies
DanCRobbo 07/02/2024
Looks like the plan is set

DanCRobbo 07/02/2024
So... shall we submit our actions?
:thumbs:
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Roonmastor 07/02/2024 3

DanCRobbo 07/02/2024 7
Ah, er, hang on
Roon you've proposed (to Charlies via PM) we target Jen on A7
But our plan was to nuke A7

Roonmastor 07/02/2024 8
Yeah, well we will hit Jen with the nuke on A7 along with the others

DanCRobbo 07/02/2024 8
Are we better nuking X?
Because it traps the Charlies so they'll be easy pickings

Roonmastor 07/02/2024 8
It also impacts us

DanCRobbo 07/02/2024
And we can home in on the Alphas (might only be Mommy by then)


Roonmastor
It also impacts us
DanCRobbo 07/02/2024
True
OK so...

Nuke A7
One regular missile targeting Jenuall on X
We stay put (no third action)

(Or shall we revert to B6?)

Roonmastor 07/02/2024
Happy to do either really. I suspect we are getting hit either way.

DanCRobbo 07/02/2024
I think we should move. We haven't in a while.
We've not been hit yet so odds are they'll target us at B7 if they haven't yet
Nuke A7
One regular missile to Jenuall on Tile X
Move to B6

Roonmastor 07/02/2024
We did move last night and stayed put the night before

DanCRobbo 07/02/2024
I'm so good at keeping track of this game.

Roonmastor 07/02/2024
Happy to move to B6, it's a coin toss anyway. I'm guessing Alpha's hit Charlie's yesterday. They probably want to knock one of the teams out as they were leading so had the biggest threat to them being multiple weapons.

DanCRobbo 07/02/2024 2
@Preezy what do you think?

DanCRobbo 07/02/2024
@44Redshaw will you accept submissions here

44Redshaw 07/02/2024
Yeah can do, now that the spies are all dead

44Redshaw 07/02/2024
Clock's a-tickin'

44Redshaw 07/02/2024
Have I missed a message?
Am I referring to Dan's message at 16.54?
:thumbs:
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Roonmastor 07/02/20240
Yep!

Roonmastor 07/02/20240
Oooh, called it!

Alpha stuck on A6 now, we'll need to hammer them next turn.

My thinking is that we are best going to X soon turn too. I want to see what happens if we co-locate with Charlie. We probably can't achieve both things. But now missile fire is going to be coming out faster, we need to finish off one of the teams quickly. Argh! It's not easy this.
We can fire 4 missiles (3+ our free shot).

Next turn we can fire 4 missiles again (2 + a missile/protect combo + our homing).

We can't move if doing the above.

If we get located, just the per turn hits mean we could take four hits, and then it's whatever they have in the arsenal. Alpha can't move so they will just shoot/shield constantly.

The extra shot/turn really screws us, but at least it'll speed things up.
I think it just got really scary to me because we effectively just took the lead. 4HP and two spaces Charlies, 5HP and one space Alpha's, 6 spaces and 6HP Bravo.
I think I've misread some of our power ups. I thought they were all single use, but some read as multi-use (eg. Free Shot). Can you confirm @44Redshaw ?

Only matters if we want to fire our missiles and leg it this turn.

44Redshaw 08/02/2024
Could be an error on my part. They are supposed to be single-use.

DanCRobbo 08/02/20249
Roon I think Preezy and I would agree that you are team captain here
What do you think is our best move now?
Alphas are stuck so as you say they'll just be firing away, likely at us.
So with that in mind is it worth maintaining the Charlie alliance for another round?
Between us we could wipe the Alphas out in one turn
If both Bravo and Charlie fire three Missiles at A6 - one each at their remaining players - then even if they all have Forcefields they're all dead.
But it opens the door to a potential Charlie double cross ie they fire on us as we fire on the Alphas

Roonmastor 08/02/20247
I thought you were team captain and I was just providing you with tactical options :lol:
:lol:
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DanCRobbo 08/02/2024
Let's make @Preezy captain then
Captain Preezy, what shall we do?
:thumbs:
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Roonmastor 08/02/2024
I'm torn. I like working with the Charlie team, but the theory would suggest now we are in the lead our best move is to remove one team asap, and on a missiles required basis targeting Charlie makes most sense, but we can also miss on the Charlie's so we can screw ourselves.

If I wasn't turn limited, I'd banzai to X and fire at Alpha to wipe them out
I just have this notion that something interesting will happen if we meet a team on X

DanCRobbo 08/02/2024
Interesting but not beneficial, surely?

Roonmastor 08/02/2024
Knife fight or orgy
We should come out on top either way
But high risk just right now

DanCRobbo 08/02/2024
We know the Alphas are on A6 and we know Jenuall doesn't have a forcefield. They might equip him with one this turn though.
We also know the Charlies are either on C7 or X
And we know their powerups likely mirror ours at this point
We could PM the Charlies again and propose we wipe out the Alphas using Missiles together and each use our Free Shot to fire the third missile, enabling us both to use our third turn onto tile X (giving them the impression we're on B7) to see what happens if we meet on X? In case our forces merge? Or just to trigger something interesting? As it'll be a straight gunfight between the two of us once the Alphas are gone
BUT we then have the option of following through with that plan OR double crossing them, staying where we are, firing one missile at them on X (if they go with our plan) and another, homing missile at them as well (in case they don't go with our plan)
Our alliance won't last beyond this turn anyway
But best case scenario, we wipe out the Alphas, kill one of Roc or Pedz (prob Roc, he's more active) and then we just have to get Pedz on tile X or C7 to win the game

DanCRobbo 08/02/2024
So...

Roonmastor 08/02/2024
If you can get the Charlies on board, let's do it.


DanCRobbo
We could PM the Charlies again and propose we wipe out the Alphas using Missiles together and each use our Free Shot to fire the third missile, enabling us both to use our third turn onto tile X (giving them the impression we're on B7) to see what happens if we meet on X? In case our forces merge? Or just to trigger something interesting? As it'll be a straight gunfight between the two of us once the Alphas are gone
Roonmastor 08/02/2024 50
This
I don't think the provenance of the shot is confirmed
(if we do betray)

DanCRobbo 08/02/2024
Done
Let's see if they are on board.
If they are, we then have one other choice: oblige or betray

DanCRobbo 08/02/2024
Right, they're in
They might always betray us, of course
But hopefully if they do, they'll think we're on B7 based on my message.
FYI @Roonmastor @Preezy I'm going to be offline between around 5pm until much later tonight
Will have a spate of online-ness 20pm until 5pm as its my bus home
So either I can submit our actions then (if we agree them) or one of you two can do so before the 8pm deadline

DanCRobbo 08/02/2024
OK so I think I'll be acting unilaterally :lol:

We can't follow through with the plan in earnest as we're not on the right tile. So I'm going with BETRAY.

Here are the actions I plan to send to OB:

Actions for Turn Ten
Action 1 - fire 1 regular missile at Jenuall on Tile A6
Action 2 - fire 1 regular missile at Mommy on Tile A6
Action 3 - fire 1 regular missile at Tomous on Tile A6
Use powerup "Free shot" - aim 1 regular missile at Rocsteady on Tile X
User powerup "Long-range homing missile" - aimed at Rocsteady

This means that, no matter the outcome, at the end of Turn Ten we'll have:

3 Missiles
2 Forcefields
Powerup "Free shot and free forcefield equip"

Worst case scenario: Charlie's don't follow through, we only break Forcefields for Alpha (but we can't miss them) and Rocsteady (with the homer) and we miss him with our non-homer.

Best case scenario: all Alphas and Roc are killed tonight, leaving the three of us to take on Pedz (who will either be on Tile C7 or X) for the endgame.

If neither of you object in the next 30 mins I'll PM OB

Roonmastor 08/02/2024
In Captain Dan we trust (edited)

DanCRobbo 08/02/2024
Well I'll just PM now then as I doubt Preezy will even see these until later!

Preezy 08/02/2024
As the silent partner of this organisation you have my full backing to carry out military action as you see fit o7

DanCRobbo 08/02/2024
o7
(That's good, because we did)
If we are indeed only left with Pedz after tonight, we've won. He only has two spaces and we'll still have a free shot. We just need to wait until we've got 4 Missiles and we can fire them all on one turn.
Might be getting ahead of myself here though
(Sneaking in 5 mins phone time)

Roonmastor 08/02/2024
Yeah, let's survive the night first

Roonmastor 08/02/20240:56
Betrayal! Charlie didn't follow through.
All of Alpha remains standing
Good bluff on our location probably saved us.

DanCRobbo 08/02/20240
Yeah, worked out OK
The alliance officially over then :lol:
Wonder if Alphas and Charlies now working together - if so if they get our tile right they could take us all out in one go.
Done well to retain our forcefields

Roonmastor 09/02/20247
Roc will want to reset his forcefield
Alpha's will probably want to do the same as they are on a clock so to speak, they need to burn through their stockpile of weapons asap to stay alive.
We need to knock one out asap to limit our risk.
Knowing all the power ups, Roc will probably use the free forcefield/fire power up, as will Alpha if they have it.
So Alpha can still fire 2-3, and Charlie will do 2-3.
Did we hit Jenuall on the nuke turn, and again last night, so we should have killed him right? So they should have used 4 forcefields so far.
We have used 4 too. Our three plus the one Qikz wasted.
We have 3 available to use still.
So, another spread-fire may not kill anyone, but would tell us who got shielded up.
3 shots on Alpha is our best bet to wipe a team.
Charlie are our biggest threat as they can also hammer Alpha at will once we are gone.
:thumbs:
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But firing three missiles at Charlie is a 50/50 risk, and then we are down to two shots per turn.
:thumbs:
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The question really is does anyone else have a bigger arsenal than us?


Roonmastor
Did we hit Jenuall on the nuke turn, and again last night, so we should have killed him right? So they should have used 4 forcefields so far.
DanCRobbo 09/02/20240
He must have re-forcefielded

Roonmastor 09/02/20240
And there is no way to know that


Roonmastor
We have 3 available to use still.
DanCRobbo 09/02/20240
Only 2 currently

Roonmastor 09/02/20241
@44Redshaw has messed up our team PM again :fp:


Roonmastor
The question really is does anyone else have a bigger arsenal than us?
DanCRobbo 09/02/20241
Yeah it all depends - both Alpha and Charlie might have fired and missed at any point, we wouldn't know.


Roonmastor
@44Redshaw has messed up our team PM again :fp:
DanCRobbo 09/02/20241
Oh yeah?

Roonmastor 09/02/20241
Says we have a free forcefield equip, but we don't have that in our power ups the day before

DanCRobbo 09/02/20242
Oh yeah
It's shot and equip I think

Roonmastor 09/02/20242
I think it should be our free missile and free forcefield equip power up

DanCRobbo 09/02/20242
Everyone knows Alphas are on A6
We know Charlies are on C7
Charlies might know we are on B6
We know Charlies didn't fire at Alpha last night so it's likely they fired at us
But we don't know if they fired at X or B7
If they fired at both they'll know where we are
Obviously we can move

Roonmastor 09/02/20244
I think we should be on 4 missiles. I understood the homing missile to be it's own missile, not one from the stock.

DanCRobbo 09/02/20244
But it's guesswork for aiming - likewise us at them


Roonmastor
I think we should be on 4 missiles. I understood the homing missile to be it's own missile, not one from the stock.
DanCRobbo 09/02/20245
Interesting. @44Redshaw could you clarify?
Also
@44Redshaw are we allowed to fire two Missiles at the same player on the same space?
The issue we have is that both Alphas and Charlies are accumulating weapons at the same rate
Alphas are easier to hit but there are more of them
Charlies are fewer but may move
The benefit we have though is we all have Forcefields
Only other player who might is Pedz


Roonmastor
Says we have a free forcefield equip, but we don't have that in our power ups the day before
44Redshaw 09/02/20243
No I think this is correct. You used the free shot element of it (along with your other free shot), but not the free forcefield
So it becomes just free forcefield

DanCRobbo 09/02/20244
So the homing missile had to be used on a turn?


Roonmastor
I think we should be on 4 missiles. I understood the homing missile to be it's own missile, not one from the stock.
DanCRobbo 09/02/20244
We fired four yesterday though

44Redshaw 09/02/20244
That's right. Although it didn't count as a missile, it did count as an action

DanCRobbo 09/02/20244
OK
So yeah the PM is right
You won't see that from me in the politics thread

44Redshaw 09/02/20245
Takes a horrible amount of time to do those PMs every evening :lol:
Trying to make sure they're all correct
Surprisingly difficult

DanCRobbo 09/02/20246
And you wondered why I said after Tribe vs Tribe that I was done being a gamerunner...

44Redshaw 09/02/2024 02
Haha yeah it is a piece of work

Roonmastor 09/02/20244
Ah, got it. Yeah, must be tough to keep on top of it all.

DanCRobbo 09/02/2024 17
What shall we do today?

Preezy 09/02/2024 26
what are our options?

Roonmastor 09/02/2024 2
Bolt to X and see what happens, or pummel Alpha and see how we look next turn.
I'm strongly in favour of standing our ground and firing all three missiles at A6.
@44Redshaw I take it all forcefields are equipped first and then missiles are applied?

44Redshaw 09/02/2024 2
Correct

Roonmastor 09/02/2024 4
So there is no benefit for us pre applying another forcefield, and I think it's better to carpet bomb Alpha than try and second guess who they put shields on.
I propose:
Missile to A6 on Jenuall
Missile to A6 on Tomous
Missile to A6 on Mommy
Cross fingers we don't all die.
There is a small possibility Charlie win this round.
Alpha fire everything at us (3hits and no shields)
Charlie fire everything at us (3 hits and no shields)
We fire everything at Alpha (3 hits)

Alpha die, we die, Charlie win.
Wherever we stand that is likely to happen, but if they know we are on B6 and plan to try and wipe out Alpha (which means they need to be openly communicating to know we could do this) then they are more likely to target B6.

Our rocket on Roc will have helped sow distrust on the basis we fired four times, so Charlie are unlikely to stand still and await their demise, and even with open Comms they may think Alpha backstabbed them.
Scenario 2 then is if Charlie's want to wipe us out, they need to stand on C7 and fire 3 times at us (I don't know if they have any power ups to help them also move remaining). Meaning we could counter fire and hit them three times. They probably have the fire and shield power up as they were on C7. Meaning we could triple fire at Charlies on C7 if we wanted them out.
But they could likely survive and probably have a bigger pot of shields than the rest of us. So I suspect they will play a little more cautiously.
They survive as long as we and Alpha target each other. They need to blitz us after we and Alpha are nearly both dead. If I were Charlie's, I wouldn't want to hasten the downfall of either team beyond the odd bit of chip damage.

With the exception of all our fire this turn could win them the game.


Roonmastor
So there is no benefit for us pre applying another forcefield, and I think it's better to carpet bomb Alpha than try and second guess who they put shields on.
DanCRobbo 09/02/2024 55
We can't stack the Forcefields anyway can we?
Is there merit to moving to X? It virtually guarantees we won't get hit at all this round. We'd lose B7 forever though.

Roonmastor 09/02/2024 1
It does also telegraph our exact position
Standing and firing is a decisive play, but also feels like hubris


Roonmastor
I propose: Missile to A6 on Jenuall Missile to A6 on Tomous Missile to A6 on Mommy Cross fingers we don't all die.
Preezy 09/02/2024 16
I think this is the way to go, blaze of glory trumps all

Roonmastor 09/02/2024 1
Other thoughts I've had is that for us to lose here requires both Alpha and Charlie to say f it and to know where we are. So Alpha and Charlie have to have fired last time on B7 and either communicated that and also agreed to fire everything at us. Alpha will know that if we stand and fire everything at them and they don't block they are out. So they need to not capitulate. They will want to shield up.
Random plan would be to run to X, fire once at Charlie's on C7 (roc) and then seeing what happens if Charlie's are on X. Allows the other teams to waste their stockpiles. But at 2 missiles/turn and 3 moves, its hardly wasting the stockpile, only possible power ups.
I also wonder if at 2 players the moves/turn drops down to 2, which is maybe 50/50 likely to happen.


Preezy
I think this is the way to go, blaze of glory trumps all
DanCRobbo 09/02/2024 29
Happy to go with the majority

Roonmastor 09/02/2024
I think I've come up with enough ideas to be captain hindsight next turn when we don't pick the one that would have put us in the best position :fp:
I'm still with Preezy but I'm open to another play.
Do we contact the Alpha's and see if they will target the Charlies at C7 and banzai to X? I don't think that will float with them, but maybe encourages them to blow their load at us?

Hey Alpha's, want to join us on double shots on Charlie's at C7? We go two on Pedz and you go two on Roc?

Then we Movex2 to X, shoot once at (anyone, Roc?)
If Charlie's move then we meet them on X and join/fight/orgy.

Roonmastor 09/02/2024
I've thought about it some more, typed a PM to Charlie's (and not sent it) as no one is allying at this time. Everyone is one-shotable. Charlie's will think we were going to pummel X last time, and they can't verify that we didn't do that as they got hit once and (knowing what we know) we could have hit them with our other 3 and killed them. So they won't trust another plan. But it is the same with working with the Alpha's.

Standing and firing still seems the better play.
Our mistake last turn was going one each on all three Alpha's (given hindsight) we should have gone 2x on one each and one shot each on Jenuall to ensure they dropped in player count. We could have also confirmed follow through on the shots.
If we shoot Alpha again, we can't spread fire, we need to go 2x on one and 1x on another, because they can also shield everyone up so we could fire 3x just to be where we are now.
Goddamn the numerous permutations of this game.

So do we message Charlie's for a reconciliation where they have to shoot twice at Jenuall and we shoot twice at Mommy to prove loyalty prior to joining our two teams? Would that float?


DanCRobbo
@44Redshaw are we allowed to fire two Missiles at the same player on the same space?
DanCRobbo 09/02/2024
Did we get an answer on this?


Roonmastor
Our mistake last turn was going one each on all three Alpha's (given hindsight) we should have gone 2x on one each and one shot each on Jenuall to ensure they dropped in player count. We could have also confirmed follow through on the shots.
DanCRobbo 09/02/2024 15
As we don't know if this would have been allowed
(If I'm reading it right)


Roonmastor
If we shoot Alpha again, we can't spread fire, we need to go 2x on one and 1x on another, because they can also shield everyone up so we could fire 3x just to be where we are now. Goddamn the numerous permutations of this game. So do we message Charlie's for a reconciliation where they have to shoot twice at Jenuall and we shoot twice at Mommy to prove loyalty prior to joining our two teams? Would that float?
DanCRobbo 09/02/2024 15
Charlies will just betray us again


DanCRobbo
Did we get an answer on this?
44Redshaw 09/02/2024 27
Sorry, yes, you can do this

DanCRobbo 09/02/2024
Ah then yeah we made an error

Roonmastor 09/02/2024
If you are the Alpha team, what do you do? Shield up or fire?

I think I would shield up as I have 3 shields and everyone has 2 missiles. You need to stay in the game another turn and hope attention moves elsewhere.

You might 2x shield and 1x fire in order to hedge your bets and protect your stronger/more active players.
You only firex3 if you've given up.
This is our last round of firex3, then we can only max firex2
We need 9 hits to kill Alpha's if we fire alone and spread our shots. We can do it in 6 if we double up on a person. Both take three rounds.
Assuming they focus on shielding
We insta-kill them today if they yolo
Sorry, if they shield up it's 7 shots (they use their stock today and it's emptied, they get another one tomorrow(?) And apply it to one person.
7 shots is 3 turns (3,2,2) with a lucky YOLO (3,0,0) chance.
6 shots is 3 turns (2,2,2)
Small chance Charlie never hit Jenuall the other day, so slim chance they have another shield but this would mean the Charlie's lost a shield that day as at least one was removed in the report.

Roonmastor 09/02/2024
Tying myself up in knots. Stand to the OG plan. Carpet bomb all three Alpha and stand our ground. If being on two players reduces moves then Charlie's may only have 2 hits so we survive. If it doesn't then spread fire on the Alpha's makes no odds but we may get lucky if they don't fully shield.

If I'm wrong and they hit us six times, I don't have to worry about this tomorrow.
If we are in dire straights tomorrow, shield up and charge X and cross your fingers for that orgy. And if that fails, I prefer a Charlie victory so fire at Alpha.

Preezy 09/02/2024 4

DanCRobbo 09/02/2024 08
Go for it Roony. Send the PM.

Roonmastor 09/02/2024 1

Roonmastor 09/02/20245

Roonmastor 09/02/20246
I don't understand how we are not getting hit

DanCRobbo 10/02/20248
:unknownsmilie: Definitely the correct call :clap:well played @Roonmastor @Preezy


Roonmastor
I don't understand how we are not getting hit
DanCRobbo 10/02/20249
Either:

We have correctly outmanouevered / second-guessed all attempts to attack us so far

Or,

The others have given up :lol:

44Redshaw 10/02/20245
I'll confirm that all actions are being taken by all teams. (Otherwise I would have ended it!)
:thumbs:
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Roonmastor 10/02/20246
Right, did Alpha run out of forcefields or choose tactically not to use one?

By shielding twice they only fired once, meaning they will have three missiles today.

Alpha has to be the target.

My heart wants to:
Missile to A6 on Mommy
Move 2x to X

If they ran out of shields, we finish Alpha and we can then banzai to X. If Charlie is there we either orgy or fight. The only (higher than normal) risk is we warned Charlie that we might try and co-locate with them at some point, so maybe they are shooting there a lot?

Sets us up nicely next turn to stand on X and triple fire on C7 if Alpha's are dead but has it's own risks.

My head says:
Missile 2x to Mommy
Ignore Action 3

If we guess wrong on Mommy, then we take another two missiles fired at us. Best to just remove that risk for one more missile cost.
If people are missing us, maybe they continue to believe that you use all three moves so they all either have many less missiles than us (well, HAD, we are now hand to mouth) and figure we are on A6 but HAVE to move when the stockpile drops down below 3. Alpha must know we are pummeling them. At some point their thinking must change. Is it today?

Blended option:
Missile to A6 at Mommy X2
Move to B7

Confirms Mommy's death
Allows us to step one closer to a potential orgy
Assumes people think we're now happy to just stand still on A6 or it is just time to move. It also sets us up nicely for a 2 shot orgy next turn. (edited)

DanCRobbo 10/02/20246
Alphas must have only had one forcefield right?
They didn't apply two
Unless Charlie also targeted them.
If we fire twice on Mommy this turn we can't triple fire next turn, we won't have enough Missiles
I don't think there will be much spectacular if we land on X and Charlie are also there
I know we said we think there could be in our PMs to Charlie but I don't realistically believe we'll be allowed to merge, or even fight
I would guess there's a mechanism in the rules that resolves the issue if two teams reached X at the same time AND the Ultimate Powerup was still there - so as to determine which team gets it (e.g. who used fewest moves to get there this turn? Who was closer last turn? Who has more Missiles / surviving players?)
But I doubt we'll get told anything APART FROM possibly learning that Charlie are there also, in our nightly PM update from OB
I'm liking your blended option best at this point
Moving to X means B6 disappears forever, which puts us level with Charlie in all but player numbers. So it'll just become a guessing game stand off.


DanCRobbo
They didn't apply two
Roonmastor 10/02/2024 02
Yeah, I counted wrong. So Alpha back to 2 missiles, but potentially with 2 forcefields in the bank unless Charlie shot them. Makes the Head/Blended options yet more appealing.
Charlie are not targeting Alpha.
Happy to lock in blended. Might be us slowing the game down so could lock in early and see if we can finish up this weekend.
:thumbs:
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DanCRobbo 10/02/20240
Wait what just happened
That was a fast turn :lol:
We still haven't been hit!
And the Alphas are out
Can't wait to hear from Qikz :twisted:
So it's a straight showdown now between us and Rocsteady/Pedz
I have an opinion
We fire nothing this turn
That way we'll have 4 Missiles for next turn
Can fire two Missiles on Roc on C7 and one on Roc on X
Then repeat the next turn
That way even if we guess wrong with the most likely tile, we'll still at the worst break a forcefield

Roonmastor 10/02/20248
Wow, was a rapid turn!
Co-locating is a high risk strategy still. If they place 2 missiles at X and are there, we are on equal footing and then who knows what happens?

@44Redshaw what happens if you fire at an enemy on your own square (eg if we are on X and fire at Charlies on X, is it possible and is there any detriment to us?)

44Redshaw 10/02/20247
You can't fire in your own tiles. If you're on X at the time, I'd consider it to be your tile and therefore not a viable target

Roonmastor 10/02/20249
If you start or end your turn there?

44Redshaw 10/02/20240
End

Roonmastor 10/02/20243
Okay, I'm going to pitch to move to X and fire twice at C7.

If they are on X, they can't shoot us on X, so they can only shoot us on X if they are on C7. And even then it's a 33% chance they target us. So moving to X means their chance to missile us is down at 17.5%.

If we co-locate on X this turn we are guaranteed to have more players so any badness we should be fine with.
Take out Roc as he seems more active. Having two or three missiles makes no odds really if two shots in a turn kills a man, and we can guarantee a hit for us or a miss for them.

DanCRobbo 10/02/20240
Happy with all that, good plan :thumbs:

Roonmastor 10/02/20244
Confirming:
Move to X
Missile at Roc on C7
Missile at Roc on C7
:thumbs:
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DanCRobbo 10/02/2024 38
Roon you are cleaning up
Just Pedz now!

Roonmastor 10/02/2024 41
Stand ground, fire at Pedz on C7 twice, orgy on X.

I see no reason to try the make the meet up happen now, but I'll happily welcome Pedz into the celebrations if he turns up. We can be magnanimous like that.

DanCRobbo 10/02/2024 43
You have to stick to X. If Pedz moves to X too, we'll miss him, but he'll also be unable to fire at us.
This could be the last PM. You should send it

Roonmastor 10/02/2024 44
o7
Missile on Pedz at C7
Missile on Pedz at C7
Bravo team orgy on X - all welcome

44Redshaw 10/02/2024 00
Congratulations Team Bravo :toot: :clap:

DanCRobbo 10/02/2024 01
Oh yeah!
:toot:

44Redshaw 10/02/2024 01
Have to say, that was some seriously impressive strategising
:unknownsmilie:
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Roonmastor 10/02/2024 03
Great work team! It all came together pretty flawlessly, which I don't think any of us expected. Apologies for my stream of consciousness in this chat, so thanks for putting up with that (and that random call that one time)

44Redshaw 10/02/2024 07
I don't know how much luck was involved along the way. How many turns in a row you somehow dodged Alpha and Charlie coordinated attacks against you! But I'm sure I saw mention that Dan had been purposely leading them astray via PM? Definitely worth bragging about that :P

Roonmastor 10/02/2024 09
:lol:
2
If you're posting chats in the thread, happy for this one to be posted. Would be very interesting to read what Alpha and Charlie were thinking, both in the spy phase and the missile phase

44Redshaw 10/02/20245
I think they have to be posted don't they. The early days were truly wild. I don't even have access to a huge amount of what I know was going on behind the scenes

Roonmastor 10/02/20249
Do it. Might not translate perfectly with reactions, replies and GIFs not working great on a copy/paste. I'm partially writing this to point that out on GRcade when they see this.
*Waves

Man, I probably talked about orgies a bit too much in hindsight :fp:

DanCRobbo 10/02/20241
The reason the Charlies betrayed us on Turn Ten (when we were going to wipe out the Alphas) is my fault!
I sent our actions PM to Roc not Roon!
:lol:
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I also sent it to Preezy who I presume didn't notice either!

Roonmastor 10/02/20242
Seriously laughing my arse off here

DanCRobbo 10/02/20242
So Roc will have known we were firing a long range missile at us

Roonmastor 10/02/20242
Is that why I had a deleted PM from Roc?

DanCRobbo 10/02/20242
From that point on they'd have known our position though
So how did they not hit us???
Or did they interpret it as a bluff???

Roonmastor 10/02/20243
Wow just wow


Roonmastor
Is that why I had a deleted PM from Roc?
DanCRobbo 10/02/20243
Oh I forgot about this, I had one too!
Haha
I'm so sorry
And so so relieved
This isn't the first time I've sent to the wrong person :lol:

Roonmastor 10/02/20243
I'm glad we won, I'd have been gutted if we lost on that. I bet that made you double your efforts too :lol:

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PostRe: One Man's Spy... The End
by Preezy » Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:02 pm

A glorious victory for Team Bravo, well played to my team mates. I can't take any credit at all despite the kind words of Dan & Roon, it was all them - I barely followed what was happening most of the time and just wanted to fire missiles like a North Korean naughty boy :lol:

Well done and thanks to Ob for hosting, great job :wub:

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PostRe: One Man's Spy... The End
by Qikz » Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:24 pm

Sad that Alpha didn't get the victory in the end - but glad we were the only team to kill our spy without killing anyone from our own team :cool:

Moggy wrote:
Roonmastor wrote:By the by Moggy, we saved your arse on Turn 2. Getting the blower turn one was very bold. I had a nice window as turn 2 blower to point out the special item had moved from C7 to X, when it should have moved from A7, but decided it wasn't in my interest.

Had Alpha won the 2nd blower...oof.


I never asked to be blower on turn 1! I seemed to get nominated but as a spy, I wouldn't have run at that stage!

I was genuinely considering coming clean with Staydead and offering to work together to destroy Bravo first. But there was a big doubt in my mind that he'd go for it, so I held off. I wish I'd gone for it, would have been fun.


I was 100% up for this btw, it's the reason I didn't get people to execute you initially when I realised you were the spy. Getting Dan to tell me anyway was funny though :lol: :toot:

The Watching Artist wrote:I feel so inept next to Qikz...

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