(PCGT V) PC gaming is dead, press F to pay respects

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by SugarDave » Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:40 pm

I only heard about the game this morning but Kingdom Come: Deliverance looks ace. It seems ambitious enough that the possibility of it being a colossal disaster is high, but I'm intrigued and it only comes out in a couple of weeks.


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by Peter Crisp » Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:00 pm

This is the sort of PC I expect you all have.


jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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by Green Gecko » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:51 am

It can't be healthy to play like that regularly, surely.

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by Death's Head » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:39 am

Peter Crisp wrote:This is the sort of PC I expect you all have.

Almost. I also have a 42" screen each side of the main screen to use as wing mirrors in driving games.

Yes?
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by <]:^D » Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:14 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:This is the sort of PC I expect you all have.



i wish!

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by Jazzem » Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:50 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:This is the sort of PC I expect you all have.



Brand...new...Genesis...system...?

That baby's gonna have enough juice to run Gunstar Heroes =O

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by jawafour » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:07 pm

SugarDave wrote:I only heard about the game this morning but Kingdom Come: Deliverance looks ace...

That does look pretty neat, Dave. I've seen that the game is launching on PS4 and XBO too, so console peasants like me can try it out as well :) . It arrives on 13 Feb.

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by Brerlappin » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:06 pm

With the current state of GPU prices thanks to bitcoin fuckery, all i have to say is

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by Karl » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:12 pm

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by Rightey » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:22 pm

There's a chain of stores here that seems to still be selling cards at MSRP, they have some cards for $200 less than Amazon or NewEgg. That said their still overpriced as they're charging the same price as over a year ago!

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by Jazzem » Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:28 pm

Man, I was lucky to get my 1070 for £350 back in December...doesn't seem like it's a good time to build or upgrade a PC. Weren't RAM prices meant to have spiked too?

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by Trelliz » Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:36 pm

I was waiting to get a 6gb 1060 to replace my 2gb 770, i'm stuck with it for the forseable future.

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by Lagamorph » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:49 pm

Jazzem wrote:Man, I was lucky to get my 1070 for £350 back in December...doesn't seem like it's a good time to build or upgrade a PC. Weren't RAM prices meant to have spiked too?

Yeah, smartphones have basically driven RAM prices through the roof as well.

A few companies are starting to release dedicated Bitcoin mining chips now though that are way more efficient than GPUs as the chips are designed to do literally nothing but bitcoin mining, so when those start hitting the market then it should help the situation.

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by Peter Crisp » Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:30 am

Am I missing something but isn't bitcoin volume limited so when they get to whatever the upper limit is those super snazzy bitcoin mining only PC's become giant paperweights.

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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by Tragic Magic » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:02 am

How much have prices actually increased then? Are we talking ridiculous amounts?

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by Peter Crisp » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:09 am

I know nothing about what's a good graphics card now but this list here
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/

shows it's remarkably easy to spend way over £300 or even the £450 launch price of a One X just on a graphics card without buying something super silly.

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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by Alvin Flummux » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:11 am

jawafour wrote:
SugarDave wrote:I only heard about the game this morning but Kingdom Come: Deliverance looks ace...

That does look pretty neat, Dave. I've seen that the game is launching on PS4 and XBO too, so console peasants like me can try it out as well :) . It arrives on 13 Feb.


The combat looks insane. I can see myself losing many fights. :shifty:

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by Rightey » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:27 am

Lagamorph wrote:
Jazzem wrote:Man, I was lucky to get my 1070 for £350 back in December...doesn't seem like it's a good time to build or upgrade a PC. Weren't RAM prices meant to have spiked too?

Yeah, smartphones have basically driven RAM prices through the roof as well.

A few companies are starting to release dedicated Bitcoin mining chips now though that are way more efficient than GPUs as the chips are designed to do literally nothing but bitcoin mining, so when those start hitting the market then it should help the situation.


These already exist, and have exited for years they're called ASIC miners...

https://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&field- ... mozilla-20

Peter Crisp wrote:Am I missing something but isn't bitcoin volume limited so when they get to whatever the upper limit is those super snazzy bitcoin mining only PC's become giant paperweights.


Yes, and they've already mined 16 Million of the 21 Million total.

The news that now Samsung is going to start making ASIC chips as well won't do anything to bring the price of the video cards down because the increase is driven by Etherium mining, not Bitcoin. Etherium is designed to be ASIC resistant because it relies on the use of VRAM to be mined, this is done to keep the currency decentralized, which was one of Bitcoins main ideas but after the advent of ASIC miners the majority of the coins are now held by a few companies that build these chips and sell part of their production and use the rest to mine bitcoins.

The prices are totally insane though, I can't imagine there are that many people actually buying graphics cards for mining rigs that they would actually drive the prices up, it's just sellers now thinking they can charge more for their cards because there is a perceived shortage.

Look at this chart...

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ethere ... 34928.html

My card, a 1060GTX was $250 when it was new, it's now $500! I could probably sell my used one and make a profit on it!

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by Peter Crisp » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:39 am

I know this was 10 years ago now but when I built my PC I had a budget of £600 which I felt was pretty good for a gaming PC. Nowhere near the best but not terrible. Now with inflation and lets say a budget of £800 it seems a decent graphics card is pretty much out of the question.

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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by Peter Crisp » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:49 am

What's going to happen to the value of bitcoin once they're all mined? I don't understand what's backing the actual value of the currency.
Is that even a sensible question or again am I missing someone really obvious?
To me it just seems like a made up currency (via some funky coding to make it look a bit complicated) that people have just for some reason decided is worth loads and when it all get's mined will become worthless once people realise it's all a pile of bollocks.

Please feel free to mock me if I am completely missing the point.

Is this another Poppy crash in the making?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.

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