(PCGT V) PC gaming is dead, press F to pay respects

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by Xeno » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:46 pm

I posted one in the thread already.

2080 vs 1080 is good but the 2080 vs 1080 Ti is poor for the price you have to pay. If I get a 2080 for £750 I expect it to be a lot better than the top card from the last gen which I can pick up for £150 to £200 less brand new, not 13% on average. I would hold off till the next launch or pick up a 1070 ot 1080 and save cash.

The card is fine, and what nVidia is trying to do is commendable and, we think, an eventual future for gaming technology. That does not mean that it's worth the price at present, however. The RTX 2080 is poor value today.


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The 2080 Ti seen from a 1080 Ti purely based on shading performance is impressive, but the big question remaining is that extra 25 to 40% extra performance worth the price tag? Purely based on rasterized/shaded game performance I would say no.


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by Jenuall » Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:01 pm

It will be interesting to see how performance stacks up when some of the newer features the RTX cards offer are actually implemented in games though - DLSS and some of the new shading tech could see large performance gains against 10XX cards once they become standard.

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by Tafdolphin » Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:55 pm

How big was the leap between the 980 and 1080 back in the day?

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by zXe » Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:21 pm

not worth it for either imo. Unless you have to have 4k 60fps go for 2080ti.

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by Gemini73 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:09 am

Win 10 system restore strawberry floated my PC. I've had to do a reset. :x

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by Green Gecko » Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:44 am

I remember when my top end reference X1800XT 512MB cost £300. That day will not come again. Thanks for turning the graphics market into the stock exchange, bullshit prospectors.

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by Sandy » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:32 am

Green Gecko wrote:I remember when my top end reference X1800XT 512MB cost £300. That day will not come again. Thanks for turning the graphics market into the stock exchange, bullshit prospectors.


Yeah, it's mad. In 2008 my EVGA 9800GX2 cost me £337.98. Taking into account inflation that's roughly £430ish in today's money. The EVGA RTX 2080 ti costs £1319.99.

So the top of the range card in 2018 is more than triple the top of the range card in 2008.

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by Ad7 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:44 am

Damn I just went back to my emails to see this from 2006

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by jawafour » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:56 am

Sandy wrote:...In 2008 my EVGA 9800GX2 cost me £337.98. Taking into account inflation that's roughly £430ish in today's money. The EVGA RTX 2080 ti costs £1319.99...

I'd imagine that the cost issues around buying a PC for gaming must now be having an impact on sales of such machines. There's no way I'd want to spend that kind of money on a gaming setup.

Edit: Well, I guess I might if I had the money. It's definitely not a mass-market solution, though!

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by Sandy » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:09 am

jawafour wrote:I'd imagine that the cost issues around buying a PC for gaming must now be having an impact on sales of such machines. There's no way I'd want to spend that kind of money on a gaming setup.

Edit: Well, I guess I might if I had the money. It's definitely not a mass-market solution, though!


Yeah, I'm lucky enough to have a pretty good income and they've now exceeded what I'm willing to pay for a GPU. I bought that 1080ti which I thought was excessive but that is way beyond that.

The only plus side about PC gaming at the moment is that you can build a 60fps 1080P machine for a reasonable amount of money. It's just if you're trying to hit 4K with Ray Tracing that you'll be paying the mad money.

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by Tafdolphin » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:17 am

Built my current PC back in 2016 for a total of £1000 and it still devours pretty much every game I can throw at it at 1080p. Even at 1440p it barely struggles with super heavy hitters like Tomb Raider.

To think that one component costs £300 more than my entire setup is...weird to me.

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by Ironhide » Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:07 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:Built my current PC back in 2016 for a total of £1000 and it still devours pretty much every game I can throw at it at 1080p. Even at 1440p it barely struggles with super heavy hitters like Tomb Raider.

To think that one component costs £300 more than my entire setup is...weird to me.


I think mine was somewhere round £900 (also back in 2016) and is more than adequate for my gaming needs - mostly Gamecube and PSP emulation (upscaled to 1080p) with the occasional newer game like Civ VI or XCOM2.

£1300 for just the GPU is insane.

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by Brerlappin » Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:11 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:Built my current PC back in 2016 for a total of £1000 and it still devours pretty much every game I can throw at it at 1080p. Even at 1440p it barely struggles with super heavy hitters like Tomb Raider.

To think that one component costs £300 more than my entire setup is...weird to me.


Yeah but can your PC do really nice reflections? Huh? CAN IT?!?

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by Winckle » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:34 pm

Attention everybody, whether your graphics card is old or new, or does reflections well or not.

One of the greatest games of all time, and the best game by Irrational Games - SWAT 4 is on sale for £3.99 on gog.com

If you don't own it, you owe it to yourself to buy it and experience the tension of clearing rooms whilst Karl shoots you "accidentally" with a bean bag shotgun.

https://www.gog.com/game/swat_4_gold_edition

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by Green Gecko » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:10 pm

Yeah, I'm still using a GeForce 9800GTX+ I got for £45 on eBay in 2009. The thing is, there are so many games available digitally that still hold up, you can play thousands of perfectly enjoyable games.

So strawberry float the high end to be honest, it's the same with my retro gaming, I'm just playing stuff from 10 years ago and really I don't care.

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by That's not a growth » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:00 pm

I remember the days you could get a decent machine for £600 if you were thrifty with a few parts. There used to be articles about building a PC with better performance than the then current consoles for less cost. Those were the days.

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by <]:^D » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:12 pm

Winckle wrote:Attention everybody, whether your graphics card is old or new, or does reflections well or not.

One of the greatest games of all time, and the best game by Irrational Games - SWAT 4 is on sale for £3.99 on gog.com

If you don't own it, you owe it to yourself to buy it and experience the tension of clearing rooms whilst Karl shoots you "accidentally" with a bean bag shotgun.

https://www.gog.com/game/swat_4_gold_edition


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PostRe: (PCGT V) PC gaming is dead, press F to pay respects
by Meep » Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:00 pm

GTX 1070 still costs more new than it did when I bought mine about two years ago. Insanity. Going by that, I can't hold much hope for the mass market tier Turing cards being below £600-700, if we are lucky.


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