PES 2015 - Sometimes you gotta take a step backwards to move forwards

NickSCFC

I used to love Japanese games, up until 2006 90% of games I owned were Japanese, after that something went seriously wrong.

NickSCFC » 25 Jun 2014 20:22 wrote:I used to love Japanese games, up until 2006 90% of games I owned were Japanese, after that something went seriously wrong.

What went wrong with you in 2006?

Wasn't lost odyssey Japanese?

NickSCFC

Jay Adama » Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:25 pm wrote:
NickSCFC » 25 Jun 2014 20:22 wrote:I used to love Japanese games, up until 2006 90% of games I owned were Japanese, after that something went seriously wrong.

What went wrong with you in 2006?

I don't know, I was happy with the direction Japanese games like PES and Resident Evil were going, then I stopped being happy.

So you stopped being happy, not Japanese games becoming gooseberry fool?

NickSCFC

I'm very happy with Western games of late, Last of Us, GTA V and SkyRim have all been breath taking. I haven't bought a Japanese game since MGS 4, and MGS V is the only Japanese game on my radar.

jawafour » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:42 pm wrote:
Schumi wrote:...How long after release did people have to wait to download the PES datapack? It was a total mess. It's just such a shame they've fallen so far.

Let's not get too carried away. The game released in September and the patch was applied in November; not great but, from that point, the PES gameplay was terrific. It wasn't good enough at release but since that time the online gaming was excellent; fast, fluid and addictive.

Nick has posted comments on two previews so far; the first suggested that there's some areas requiring work and the second indicated plenty of positive aspects. Let's wait and hear more views before writing it off. As much as anyone else, I want Konami to get this right for the launch but these are early days.

It's kind of my point though, it took the best part of 2 months for them to fix the game so it works and plays properly after it launched. That's a total mess by any games standard, be it PES, FIFA or any other title. Look at all the stick Battlefield 4 rightly got, this is the same sort of thing. Konami issued an official apology for it not working, that's how bad it was!

Konami can't afford this when PES has been losing so much ground to FIFA in terms of sales as it is. 2014 sold 1.8million less than 2013, do you think many more picked it up after it was fixed? The fact it was free on PS+ 6 months after it released suggests no. By comparison FIFA14 out sold FIFA13. In fairness there might be some next gen cross over influencing the figures, but with PES2014 not on next gen it's not like people were waiting to get the better version a few weeks later.

Then you have the fact PS4/Xbone came out whilst Konami were still trying to sort out the total mess of PES2014. FIFA had a clear run on new consoles as it was, let alone with PES out of action around that time on the previous gen consoles too. They're killing themselves, that's what annoys me. I've so many good memories of this series.

http://winningelevenblog.com/blog/pes-year-on-year-sales-down-by-1-8-million-units/ Source for figures

NickSCFC

OK that looks pretty bad.

That Thomas Müller turn is ridiculous, it's physically impossible, that's the sort of thing that pissed me off in FIFA 13, just no inertia.

NickSCFC wrote:I'm very happy with Western games of late, Last of Us, GTA V and SkyRim have all been breath taking. I haven't bought a Japanese game since MGS 4, and MGS V is the only Japanese game on my radar.

Which puts you in the perfect position to judge an entire country's gaming output.

Just because you haven't noticed anything worth playing, doesn't mean this is the case. Your tastes may have changed, but that doesn't indicate anything - not even that your tastes have changed to "better" games.

As Jay said, it is also a bit unfair to hold Japan in comparison with "Western" gaming, which is made up of dozens of different countries and a larger geographical area.

Jay Adama » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:25 pm wrote:
NickSCFC » 25 Jun 2014 20:22 wrote:I used to love Japanese games, up until 2006 90% of games I owned were Japanese, after that something went seriously wrong.

What went wrong with you in 2006?

Tony Pulis took over at Stoke and Nick developed a crick in his neck from watching the constant hoofball so he could no longer focus on the bottom third of the TV which is where you'd normally find the subtitles in Japanese games. That's my theory.

Parksey, Journey isn't Japanese.

Pell and Dan Dawkins talking impressions of their hands on play:

suzz, I think that was CVG's preview? Weirdly, it was published by CVG on their news page but it now seems to have been moved. Perhaps it'll pop back in a few moments. The preview was disappointing in that CVG's title banner proclaimed "Video preview" and yet the in-game footage was taken from PES 2014 :fp:

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EDIT: The vid is back - click here to view.

Nick, c'mon mate, re-name this thread back to PES 2015.

The latest issue of Official PlayStation Magazine (#99) briefly notes some promising viewpoint on the game. The PS4 version allegedly "lives up to 'the beautiful game' tag", with "last year's improved animations and collisions smoother than ever" whilst "the speeds of both ball and players feel truly representative of footy". Best of all, "the confusing menus of old have been subbed out for an early bath". In summary, they say the game was "one of E3s very best surprises".

This sounds promising; although I'm looking forward to seeing actual gameplay footage and verdicts rather than player faces and camera operators.

CVG has reported the new features of PES 2015.

There are plenty of upgrades to appearances (players / environments) but I particularly like the sound of these two aspects:

CVG wrote:Close Control - Players have bespoke dribbling skills, as opposed to relying on trick moves. New skills include jinking runs, responsive sprints and a wider range of pace from walking to sprinting.
Improved Defending - Players have complete control over when to close down, tackle, or hold up play. Successful defending "is based entirely on the decisions the user makes".

EDIT: It's funny to see that the daft text banners are still included. Surely no-one would run up a "Carrick" banner!

Where is the 'Who ate all the pies?' banner? :cry:

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Konami will no doubt take this video down from YouTube within minutes - but here's some badly-filmed actual gameplay footage from PES 2015:

It looks pretty good!

EDIT: If that video disappears, here's evidence of the game in action:

I think this looks great.

Does this game have micro-transactions?

[iup=3499065]Fuzzy Dunlop[/iup] wrote:Does this game have micro-transactions?

It appears so

http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/03/pes-2015-for-xbox-one-and-ps4-will-have-microtransactions-4785759/

[iup=3499065]Fuzzy Dunlop[/iup] wrote:Does this game have micro-transactions?

Yes - click here to find out about them.

CVG wrote:Konami has also revealed that Master League Online mode will feature optional microtransactions for the first time, with the choice to add new players with either accumulated in-game currency or real money.

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