Peter Molyneux on Milo - "Kinect was a trainwreck"

NickSCFC

Always thought that Milo demo was bullshit, now it's confirmed.

http://m.uk.ign.com/articles/2017/04/11 ... unfiltered

"You know, Kinect... I'll be honest with you. It was a disaster," Molyneux said on the latest episode of our monthly interview show IGN Unfiltered.

"It was a trainwreck," he continued. "It started as this device which kind of could do everything itself. It didn't take up any processor power, the field of view could encompass the whole room. The audio on it, which no one really talks about, was originally supposed to be multi-sensing, it could sense where you were."

Molyneux went on to note that what Kinect ultimately turned out to be fell very far short of that original vision. "It ended up being none of those things," he said, highlighting how you had to sit in a very limited region for it to work. "Its promise... was so enormous. In fact, it reminds me a little bit of VR at the moment," he added.
According to Molyneux, the promise of a device that made if feel like your console could actually see you was "so big," but Kinect's "actual delivery of that promise fell so far short."

That's Molyneux saying that something else's promises fell short. Hilarious.

rinks wrote:That's Molyneux saying that something else's promises fell short. Hilarious.

I don't think he can call anyone or anything out whose "actual delivery of that promise fell so far short"; a phrase which could describe everything he's done for the past 20 years.

Regardless of whether or not the idea of a product underdelivering on promises could apply to many of the games Molyneux's been involved with, he's not wrong. And those games didn't cost £130.

I still maintain that Kinect was launched at the wrong time. Instead of launching with 360, they should have held it back for Xbox One launch. It would have softened the blow of being a 'forced purchase' with Xbox One, and instead been a genuinely exciting new hardware on day one. Not to mention that the One version of Kinect is infinitely better hardware.

Sadly by the time that launched the Kinect name had already been dragged through the mud, and no developer worth their salt wanted to make games for it. There are plenty of bad decisions MS have made over the last few years, but I think that's one of the biggies.

rudderless wrote:Regardless of whether or not the idea of a product underdelivering on promises could apply to many of the games Molyneux's been involved with, he's not wrong. And those games didn't cost £130.

In that case i withdraw my previous statement, he's the best person to spot an overhyped shit-train.

I think MS have done the right thing to move away from kinect quickly and quietly; hasn't the xbox one S done away with the kinect plug altogether? I got one cheap and it was fun for a while but it was too much of a faff to set up to play some not very good games. I only got the xbone once they'd taken it out of the box and dropped the price.

Molyneux

Trelliz wrote:
rudderless wrote:Regardless of whether or not the idea of a product underdelivering on promises could apply to many of the games Molyneux's been involved with, he's not wrong. And those games didn't cost £130.

In that case i withdraw my previous statement, he's the best person to spot an overhyped shit-train.

Ha ha, no, it's a perfectly reasonable observation, I just think in this instance he's absolutely right (and if Kinect had done as MS originally promised, who knows? Maybe Milo would have been the game-changer it was mooted as).

more heat than light wrote:
rinks wrote:That's Molyneux saying that something else's promises fell short. Hilarious.

Don't bullshit a bullshitter

NickSCFC wrote:"It was a trainwreck,"

BAM

Crikey. It's pretty horrible watching that Natal/Milo teaser back. So many exaggerations and, to be honest, outright lies!

"That wasn't acted. Claire felt like she had to reach out and grab the bullshit."

It was a novelty - a gimmick - like Eyetoy, albieit one that cost 3x the price.

Both were ahead of their time in one area: cameras built into TVs to videochat, but even that hasn't taken off in a massive way as everyone still uses their tablet/mobile/laptop.

Molyneux is a trainwreck.

Bloomin' nice house though.

KK wrote:It was a novelty - a gimmick - like Eyetoy, albieit one that cost 3x the price.

It has become a novelty since games were never made that really utilized it to its potential. There are still some excellent games out there for it (admittedly mostly in the party genre, but still...) The first two Kinect Sports games were really good. Dance Central is the best game of its type available. There are a couple of indie games that tried to innovate using the device (notably Fru, which is superb) but people mostly only remember the shoehorned-in motion controls and things like Fable The Journey and Steel Batallion. Jesus Christ, that was horrible.

rudderless wrote:
Trelliz wrote:
rudderless wrote:Regardless of whether or not the idea of a product underdelivering on promises could apply to many of the games Molyneux's been involved with, he's not wrong. And those games didn't cost £130.

In that case i withdraw my previous statement, he's the best person to spot an overhyped shit-train.

Ha ha, no, it's a perfectly reasonable observation, I just think in this instance he's absolutely right (and if Kinect had done as MS originally promised, who knows? Maybe Milo would have been the game-changer it was mooted as).

Wasn't there a tell-all a while back stating the entire Milo demo was 100% scripted? There was no AI code at all, it was a CG video running on a screen with an actress acting against it.

He's not wrong as it was, the only redeeming thing about Kinect 2.0 is the fact that I can use it to turn on and everything on and off and mute, lower/higher volume and pause all forms of media. All voice commands.

(I did enjoy the voice commands in Skyrim on 360 though - Xbox - Save, Xbox - Bow etc.

How do you pause a book

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